I am a conscientious objector of the Aegis provocation

Cmdr Eran Mintor

Cmdr Eran Mintor
I have felt this way since the story started and, while I'm bummed I may never experience the combat against a thargoid, until there's a clear motivation to fight them I will continue to hunt and shoot those killing the goids. Yes I bought the xeno ally nameplate, they're great. I'm sure all the refugees I pick up from The Oracle really appreciate it too.
 
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Barking_Mad

Barking_Mad
Having listened to DB's opinions on all things space and extra-terrestrial, Id be very surprised if this is as cut and dried as 'Humans good, Thargoids bad'. That's not to say we're going to get a lot of really complex in-game ethical choices, but I'd wager there's a twist in the tail here, to some degree.
 

B1rdy

B1rdy
Straker said:
...all wild speculation but I definitely want more information before I start getting directly involved - thus my reasons for remaining a conscientious objector of the Aegis provocation.
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I think it is a weird design choice. On the one hand a hype for Thargoid content is being built up for years now, on the other hand the actual game mechanics only reward shooting them, while at the same time they don't act hostile to players.
 

Goose4291

Banned
Goose4291
Vasious said:
And in Out of the Darkness they attack Moira's homeworld and walk around, mercilessly attack and torture
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I never got round to reading Out of the Darkness when I was all hyped about the Elite lore... I looked at the synopsis and felt it really didn't gel with the 'verse.
 

Mike Reacher

Mike Reacher
Vasious said:
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The Alcatraz Class Prison Ship designation JJF-048 was last reported in orbit of the planet HIP 17692 A 3.
The ship is heavily damaged, destroyed by weapons consistent with other Thargoid attacks, leaving green hull scarring and some kind of green gas throughout the area.



Didn't work out well



The Aquarius Class Tanker designation ALF-895 was last reported in orbit of the planet HIP 17225 A 2.
The ship is heavily damaged, destroyed by weapons consistent with other Thargoid attacks, leaving green hull scarring and some kind of green gas throughout the area.






The Thomas Class Bulk Cargo Ship DFX-056 was last reported in orbit of the moon Pleiades Sector IH-V c2-5 1 a.
The ship is heavily damaged, destroyed by weapons consistent with other Thargoid attacks, leaving green hull scarring and some kind of green gas throughout the area.






The Banner Class Bulk Cargo Ship BTG-237 was last reported in orbit of the moon Pleiades Sector IR-W d1-55 5 a.
The ship is heavily damaged, destroyed by weapons consistent with other Thargoid attacks, leaving green hull scarring and some kind of green gas throughout the area.









Closest I could find

History will Decide 4/5
...Bypassing security protocols...
...Secure connection established...

Our latest tests were extremely successful. The mycoid can paralyse a Thargoid system - either physically or technological - in a matter of seconds. It is extremely effective.

I confess: the knowledge that the mycoid causes the Thargoids physical pain brings me some measure of satisfaction. But when one has seen, first hand, the effect of their weapons - seen the destruction, the chaos, the bodies - can one be blamed for wanting them to suffer, as we have?
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See! Thargoids are evil aliens. They probably bred Scott Ridley's aliens.
We have to be forever vigilant. We come in peace, shoot to ....... Whatever. Get bigger guns. Anybody tried bugspray yet?


Those liners, tankers and prison ships were not Aegis, but they are still dead.
 
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Mike Reacher

Mike Reacher
Barking_Mad said:
Having listened to DB's opinions on all things space and extra-terrestrial, Id be very surprised if this is as cut and dried as 'Humans good, Thargoids bad'. That's not to say we're going to get a lot of really complex in-game ethical choices, but I'd wager there's a twist in the tail here, to some degree.
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Gotta agree. So far FD have not given us a reason to kill or make friends. I ain't gonna kill any till I see the whole story.
 

Mike Reacher

Mike Reacher
B1rdy said:
I think it is a weird design choice. On the one hand a hype for Thargoid content is being built up for years now, on the other hand the actual game mechanics only reward shooting them, while at the same time they don't act hostile to players.
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There is a commander who has never fired on a Thargoid, but when she checks out a non-human USS she has been killed by the Thargoid ship. (I believe a few times)

Those of you that say the Thargs never fire first are wrong.

Many commanders fire first, and many Thargs fire first.

Play the game. Don't analize it. (If analasis is required, try analizing STALKER)
 
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Mrat13

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Mike Reacher said:
See! Thargoids are evil aliens. They probably bred Scott Ridley's aliens.
We have to be forever vigilant. We come in peace, shoot to ....... Whatever. Get bigger guns. Anybody tried bugspray yet?


Those liners, tankers and prison ships were not Aegis, but they are still dead.
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But why am I not attacked? They must have something thargoids deem important, but what?
 

Mike Reacher

Mike Reacher
picommander said:
Maybe there are different types, as we are. The worst thing that could happen if we react like someone once bitten by a dog, now killing all dogs because he thinks all dogs are evil. This reaction is quite common for humans. No one says Thargoids are necessarily the wise guys...
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Bad analogy. Keep our pets out of this. (or I'll have to dob you in to the teacher)
 

Mike Reacher

Mike Reacher
Mrat said:
But why am I not attacked? They must have something thargoids deem important, but what?
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I really believe this is an ongoing learning situation. We can talk about it all day (which is good because we seemed to have left name-calling in the dust) but I think any long term play is still being written by the programmers.
There are anomalies. You shoot first. They shoot first. The Cmdr I mentioned said she had nothing on board to attract a first attack.
I'll repeat myself. Shootemup if you want, don't if you want or be like me and stay up north. (And make mooollaaahh)
 

Vasious

Vasious
Xintar said:
This from a species that engages in corporate mass murder, assassination, piracy, enslaves its own species, and regularly preys upon weaker citizens just getting their start in space. Hooray for humanity. It won't be long before you see some human wings fighting along side the bugs. Things could and should get more morally obscure-- interesting. The Thargoids just might have a point.
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picommander said:
Maybe there are different types, as we are. The worst thing that could happen if we react like someone once bitten by a dog, now killing all dogs because he thinks all dogs are evil. This reaction is quite common for humans. No one says Thargoids are necessarily the wise guys...
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The Hivemind Thargoids; they might be different don't judge them all on the acts in one

Humanity; Damn them all and their individuals and numerous factions
 

Mrat13

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Mike Reacher said:
There is a commander who has never fired on a Thargoid, but when she checks out a non-human USS she has been killed by the Thargoid ship. (I believe a few times)

Those of you that say the Thargs never fire first are wrong.

Many commanders fire first, and many Thargs fire first.

Play the game. Don't analize it. (If analasis is required, try analizing STALKER)
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Then why have they never fired on me?

Edit: just realized I'm going in circles lol
 
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Mrat13

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Mike Reacher said:
I really believe this is an ongoing learning situation. We can talk about it all day (which is good because we seemed to have left name-calling in the dust) but I think any long term play is still being written by the programmers.
There are anomalies. You shoot first. They shoot first. The Cmdr I mentioned said she had nothing on board to attract a first attack.
I'll repeat myself. Shootemup if you want, don't if you want or be like me and stay up north. (And make mooollaaahh)
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I'm actually thinking of moving to the Pleiades you know. I've been bitten by the bug ;).
 

TOM USMC

TOM USMC
Mike Reacher said:
There is a commander who has never fired on a Thargoid, but when she checks out a non-human USS she has been killed by the Thargoid ship. (I believe a few times)

Those of you that say the Thargs never fire first are wrong.

Many commanders fire first, and many Thargs fire first.

Play the game. Don't analize it. (If analasis is required, try analizing STALKER)
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No one says that they never fire first. They don't fight with out being provoked. In other words don't get close and I've heard either having probes and/or interfering with what they are doing will get you a warning and then attacked.

I have heard people say that they have been hit with the mini Thargoid as a warning too.
 
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