Unless you don't go looking for them, by pinning the blueprint at a low level and applying them as and when they do fall into your lap. If you remember, or think it's even necessary in the first place.
Is possible doesn't equate to compulsory.
I dont get why everyone thinks Ellite is such a grind
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Unless you don't go looking for them, by pinning the blueprint at a low level and applying them as and when they do fall into your lap. If you remember, or think it's even necessary in the first place.
Is possible doesn't equate to compulsory.
Agreed
Again, context is important.
You're in a thread where the OP is suggesting everything in the game is straightforward and there's no grind "if you have the right information" and that's what people are responding to.
Exactly, what I'm saying is he's right. I'm also describing how I do those things easily and without grind, if I choose to do the entirely optional thing at all.
I dunno.
Maybe I'm not understanding you but what you're saying doesn't seem to make any sense.
Sure, you can certainly just coast along, not worrying about rank, credits or engineering and that's great.
Doing that is NOT, however, going to get you Cr250m, a Python and a Cutter (and/or engineer them) in a couple of weeks - which is what the OP suggests.
And pointing out that those things are completely optional has no merit in that discussion at all.
"Hey, it's easy to become a millionaire in a month and doesn't require hard work"
"Wow! Really? How?"
"Just don't worry about it and eventually you might end up a millionaire... or you might not"
It got me a corvette plus my other ships and enough spacecash to laugh at rebuy's for a couple of years.
Given the ease of long range travel and the ease of both money making and rep gain he's absolutely right. I don't even check the money payout of missions I take the ones that sound like fun, or have mats on offer I want (if I remember to check my list of things I'm supposed to be looking out for). I keep getting richer and my ships keep getting better.
Thats the thing if you have a vette and enough credits for a couple years of rebuys ( which I'm assuming is in the couple of billion) your not the average player. I'm assuming elite is your main game if not the only game you play.
Please dont take it the wrong way. I'm not having a go at you. But why should anyone listen to what you think is a grind or hard and what isn't when is seems you are one of the 5% of cmdrs that has almost everything already and loves the game with that much of a passion that you need to argue with people that point out some flaws.
This is just an assumption based on your replies to people.
Yes it will, just a lot slower but hopefully much more fun on the way.
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Different horse different courses...I played and coasted along fer two whole years and by the end of that, I had less than half a billion in my wallet. Which meant that to progress further and get an endgame ship as some call it, I either keep coasting along fer another two years or grind.
So I started to grind...and since that, Ive heard nothing but salt about how the grind is so bad and if ye do it, ye will lose sight of whats really important. But Ive already been playing the game ¨how its meant to be played¨ fer two years...so why do I still have to grind to get stuff after two years? Was it because I listened to those who said dont grind?
Point being, to get that extra nice shiny, playing fer a couple years not worrying over grinding or credits, yer still gonna have to start grinding if ye dont want it taking another couple years simply because ye didnt care up until that point. So if yer just playing the game real laid back, yer not gonna get the shiny.
Stigbob...much as I love ye man...in a non pervy way...fer now :O...yer not an average typical player. Yer in the top 1% who will never need money again advising others who may well never know what its like to play like that. I know fer a fact based on what its already taken me 3 months just to get where I am now, that it will almost certainly take me the rest of the year to even approach the sorta gameplay experience you currently enjoy.
Im a patient man but there are limits to that and with the squeeze on credits I gotta say...if a cash exploit got announced tomorrow morning, Id be there before the morning was out to farm the hell out of it before you lot were even aware it existed. I would do that because a few hours of that would save a month worth of grinding ^
Hello Elite is not grind, let me show you my inara account after 8 days of grind.......
Same here. Thats why I used sothis and eos and the empire equivalent after 3.0 to rank to open the vette and cutter. So I wouldn't have to think about it again. I cant afford them yet and not sure I want them yet either. But its open to me now. Same with smeaton runs before the nerf (it got cut short for me only did it for a week and a half 1 run a day) but I only wanted to get to a comfortable spot cr wize so that I wouldn't have to worry about cr for awhile. I wouldn't of done it for a long time but just enough. And I didn't board hop to do it and only did it in my python which the most I got was 75mcr oneway. You could say I was doing it casually and enjoying it.
I've been playing and enjoying the game since 2014 with a couple of resets, by treating it like a game and not grinding. That's four years of entertainment with no rage at my own silly choices.
I don't love it or have a passion for it, I just say that to get it into bed.
To turn your assumptions on their head why would anyone who enjoys something listen to someone who does the optional entertainment thing in a way they obviously don't enjoy. I get the impression they are doing it wrong and missing the whole point of playing a game.
Go unlock guardian weapons and modules and then tell me it isn't a grind.
Choose not to do that optional thing and have fun instead then tell me it's a grind.
This is just me but I'd rather get things out of the way that I dont really like quickly so that I dont have to deal with it later lol. I did that for fed and empire ranks in about a week and a half for each. And If there was any possible way that I didn't have to find mats and data for the engineers i would do it even if that means saving up credits and waiting for longer and paying the engineer a stupid amount of credits or paying a contact to buy the mats and data. I personally just dont like the mats and data economy its a personal thing and I know alot of people like it. I understand why fd did it. To try to give more gameplay for people that asked for more. But personally if I could get around it I would. I think that's one of the reasons why I liked pre engineers.
I use engineers a bit, not as much as some purely because they enhance my ship and I like enhancing my ship but that doesn't mean I like the economy and ranks put in place for them. Thats just me.
That's fair enough, but if you don't enjoy the rank grind why did you do both fed and imp ?. By picking just one I cut it in half, you could have done the same you can't fly a cutter and a corvette at the same time and owning both means you need billions or whatever to pay for bits.
Now you can select rep as a reward I imagine it goes up a lot faster so you could have saved yourself some effort.
I did both so I wouldn't have to do it later. I can't afford a cutter or vette to the point of buying it and setting it up and having rebuys. But now I can just pick cr reward or if the reward is a type of mat or data I need.
Thats the thing. Pre nerf smeaton I did a little till the nerf. But I didn't grind it. I didn't board flip. I went from station to station and loaded up. Sometimes not being able to load up. I actually enjoyed smeaton runs for some weird reason. I think personally I found it nice to do missions that required a minimum time of an hr to an hr and a half and got paid 25 to 75mcr depending on how full I could get my python. It was a good wind down after work for an hour before reality had to kick in. Lol
So you ground out fed and imp rank without having the means to buy an end game ship, the only reason anyone bothers with rank in the first place. That's grind for the sake of grind, there wasn't even an end goal.
Maybe just don't bother in future do what's fun and see how things pan out. You've got nothing to lose.
I don't think the game is too grindy. I think this really is a matter of perspective. I have played games much more grindy than this one. The people having a problem with the grind in this game probably haven't. So their perspective is different. For example The ranking required for the imperial and federal ships is a grind but it's not a grind that takes you a very long time to achieve if you know what you're doing. I had the necessary ranks to buy all the ships locked behind ranks within 3 weeks of game play time on the new account I started. I didn't focus on ranking all the time either. You can do this much faster if you are as efficient as possible with your time getting those ranks. Grinding for the engineering materials is nowhere near as grindy in my experience compared to a game like Diablo III. At least with this game you know what you're getting most of the time. Signal sources are an exception though. I hate those with a passion. The grinding it self is too boring imo.
If the proverbial carrot stays out of reach for too long you lose interest. The way to getting it should be made more interesting. The grind through the ranks could also be made more interesting by having a reward for every rank you achieve. System permits alone while working towards unlocking ships are pretty lackluster imo. Since the ranking is one time thing to achieve you could give a one time credit bonus for achieving a rank. By adding a bonus there's something to look forward too and be less picky with the missions you take and take on missions that benefit upping your rank more. Also nice for starting commanders working up the ranks for some extra credits.
If the proverbial carrot stays out of reach for too long you lose interest. The way to getting it should be made more interesting. The grind through the ranks could also be made more interesting by having a reward for every rank you achieve. System permits alone while working towards unlocking ships are pretty lackluster imo. Since the ranking is one time thing to achieve you could give a one time credit bonus for achieving a rank. By adding a bonus there's something to look forward too and be less picky with the missions you take and take on missions that benefit upping your rank more. Also nice for starting commanders working up the ranks for some extra credits.