I found a brown dwarf with an accretion disk!!!

Ooh, I so want to mine in an accretion disk now!

Unless it makes my ship blow-up. Even so, it'd worth a shot trying, just for fun.

It wouldn't blow up. It'd just be subject to extreme gravitational forces that increased by orders of magnitude for every centimeter closer you got. Side effects include extreme time dilation and spaghettification as the gravity on one end of your ship was higher than the other, resulting in you being stretched and ripped apart atom by atom for eons (due to aforementioned time dilation) before eventually succumbing to the event horizon.

Where you go after that, no one really knows.

Edit: Let's ignore physics for a second and say your ship had enough power to withstand and escape an accretion disk of a black hole. Even a few seconds in one means years or decades outside of it. So in the event you got caught in one and escaped even within a few minutes, everyone you knew and loved would be dead by the time you got out.
 
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It wouldn't blow up. It'd just be subject to extreme gravitational forces that increased by orders of magnitude for every centimeter closer you got. Side effects include extreme time dilation and spaghettification as the gravity on one end of your ship was higher than the other, resulting in you being stretched and ripped apart atom by atom for eons (due to aforementioned time dilation) before eventually succumbing to the event horizon.

Where you go after that, no one really knows.

Edit: Let's ignore physics for a second and say your ship had enough power to withstand and escape an accretion disk of a black hole. Even a few seconds in one means years or decades outside of it. So in the event you got caught in one and escaped even within a few minutes, everyone you knew and loved would be dead by the time you got out.

Accretion disks don't just happen around black holes. Stars form from accretion disks as well, until the hut critical mass, then FLAME ON!
 
Yup. That's why they say time is relative. Even on a planet like Jupiter, time moves measurably slower than it does here.

Did I ever tell you about my theory that time doesn't really exist? It's a human invention, like the north pole, the equator, and definition of a planet (#plutoisaplanet). Time is merely our way of trying to understand the passing of moments. And moments are simply the forward movement of matter.

Now, when I say moment, I don't mean that each moment is a set, quantum measurement. It simply means when matter moves.

And when I say the forward movement of matter, I don't mean matter moving in any particular direction. I mean that a moves in direction A, hits b, which moves in direction B, which hits c, that moves in direction C. Think of it as a clockwork automaton always in motion.

And when matter is stagnant there is no motion, and thus no moments, and no change.

So, when people say that time slows down around large masses, time doesn't actually slow
Down, because there is no time. It is the forward movement of matter that slows down, because it's means of propagation is by the significant body of mass, aka, the various force fields such as electromagnetism, gravity, etc, and the forces we still haven't discovered.

Oh, by the way, what time is it?
 
Did I ever tell you about my theory that time doesn't really exist? It's a human invention, like the north pole, the equator, and definition of a planet (#plutoisaplanet). Time is merely our way of trying to understand the passing of moments. And moments are simply the forward movement of matter.

Now, when I say moment, I don't mean that each moment is a set, quantum measurement. It simply means when matter moves.

And when I say the forward movement of matter, I don't mean matter moving in any particular direction. I mean that a moves in direction A, hits b, which moves in direction B, which hits c, that moves in direction C. Think of it as a clockwork automaton always in motion.

And when matter is stagnant there is no motion, and thus no moments, and no change.

So, when people say that time slows down around large masses, time doesn't actually slow
Down, because there is no time. It is the forward movement of matter that slows down, because it's means of propagation is by the significant body of mass, aka, the various force fields such as electromagnetism, gravity, etc, and the forces we still haven't discovered.

Oh, by the way, what time is it?

That's not time, that's heat. The very definition of heat is atoms moving, thus generating heat. Absolute Zero is the cease of all atomic movement. That has nothing to do with the dimension of time.
 
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Edit: Let's ignore physics for a second and say your ship had enough power to withstand and escape an accretion disk of a black hole. Even a few seconds in one means years or decades outside of it. So in the event you got caught in one and escaped even within a few minutes, everyone you knew and loved would be dead by the time you got out.

Black holes are strange objects arnt they
 
Er... no.Accretion disks are not specirfically for Black Holes.

I know. Anything with sufficient mass can have one. Black holes are just the most common examples. Neutron stars are known to have them too. The point was that the ring system shown in the OP's picture was NOT an example of the phenomenon.
 
Even a few seconds in one means years or decades outside of it. So in the event you got caught in one and escaped even within a few minutes, everyone you knew and loved would be dead by the time you got out.
THis isn't the first time you seem to be posting misinformation and represrenting facts incorrectly.The accretion disk of a Black Hole extrends well beyond the ergosphere and given a sufficentily large Schwarzchild radius would certainly not neccessarily entail any extreme gravitational environment. Risk of suxxumbing to the fierce UV radiation or physical bombardment by the accreted matter would pose more of a threat.The spaghettifcation is a result of the difference of potential across theinfalling body (dU/dx for x in the direction of the Hole's centre) when the potential difference is such that the force (time derivative over the momentum - (as kinetic energy fron the delta x)) is greater than the chemical binding energies of constituent molecules and atoms of the inffalling body. Othewerwise,m the bodyt may experience 'discomfort' at most at the pull, but will not be 'spaghettified'.For a suitably large Black Hole radius (for example, Sag A*) the gradient of thpotential is so shallow until well 'within' the Horizon, that spaghettification will not happen for some distance after crossing the Horizon boundary.Time dilation is similarly dependant on the gravity - Merely being within the accretion disk of a stellar Black Hole is not likely to warrant any significant time differences other than would normally be apparent for the star. Take for example a situation in which the sun's mass was suddenly compressed into a Black Hole. After about 8 minutes (ignoring obvious sudden lack of Solar Wind etc.) the gravity and its eeffects on time will be no different as observed from Earth. Indeed, the Earth (and all other planets) will continue their orbits as normal sicne the gravity remains the same (The strength determined only by the masses and the inverse square of the distance) Although the Schwarzchild radius of this hole will be far smaller than the sun's chronosphere - and any brave experimenter that may venture close to this Horizon and send flashing light signals back to Earth, from Earth, the observed flashes will becopme less frequent and the energy redshifted until it fades from view, the final transmission at the Horizon will be infinitely redshifted and remain to future infinity.
 
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THis isn't the first time you seem to be posting misinformation and represrenting facts incorrectly.The accretion disk of a Black Hole extrends well beyond the ergosphere and given a sufficentily large Schwarzchild radius would certainly not neccessarily entail any extreme gravitational environment. Risk of suxxumbing to the fierce UV radiation or physical bombardment by the accreted matter would pose more of a threat.The spaghettifcation is a result of the difference of potential across theinfalling body (dU/dx for x in the direction of the Hole's centre) when the potential difference is such that the force (time derivative over the momentum - (as kinetic energy fron the delta x)) is greater than the chemical binding energies of constituent molecules and atoms of the inffalling body. Othewerwise,m the bodyt may experience 'discomfort' at most at the pull, but will not be 'spaghettified'.For a suitably large Black Hole radius (for example, Sag A*) the gradient of thpotential is so shallow until well 'within' the Horizon, that spaghettification will not happen for some distance after crossing the Horizon boundary.Time dilation is similarly dependant on the gravity - Merely being within the accretion disk of a stellar Black Hole is not likely to warrant any significant time differences other than would normally be apparent for the star. Take for example a situation in which the sun's mass was suddenly compressed into a Black Hole. After about 8 minutes (ignoring obvious sudden lack of Solar Wind etc.) the gravity and its eeffects on time will be no different as observed from Earth. Indeed, the Earth (and all other planets) will continue their orbits as normal sicne the gravity remains the same (The strength determined only by the masses and the inverse square of the distance) Although the Schwarzchild radius of this hole will be far smaller than the sun's chronosphere - and any brave experimenter that may venture close to this Horizon and send flashing light signals back to Earth, from Earth, the observed flashes will becopme less frequent and the energy redshifted until it fades from view, the final transmission at the Horizon will be infinitely redshifted and remain to future infinity.

Bruh... for the love of all that's holy, please break this up into paragraphs. lol
 
Me too (brown dwarf with a ring system, not accretion disk)! Except I was able to land on a planet at the very edge of the ring system!

It's inside the bubble too, and has planetary bases on it :)



Sorry forgot where it is... Sesuang maybe? I was doing missions in that general vicinity and that pic was taken as I was taking off from the planetary base.
 
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That's not time, that's heat. The very definition of heat is atoms moving, thus generating heat. Absolute Zero is the cease of all atomic movement. That has nothing to do with the dimension of time.

Heat is the perturbation of the electromagnetic field by the nucleus of atoms oscillating about their equilibrium.

Time is not a dimension. It is a perceived thing, imaginary.

Let's try this another way. I defined what we think is time. Now you tell me. What is time? Use concrete, specific, empirical facts that can be repeated via experimentation.
 
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With all the talk about "improving" exploration by adding stupid mini games and round abouts with the SRV or whatever, adding more variety to star types and shapes(accretion disks for instance) will be much better. T-Tauris for instance now are exactly like normal stars, only you can't scoop em. Where are the proto-planetary discs and Giant flares? How about Neutron stars with donor planets on their way to a nova?

You want to give explorers love? Give us more to explore!


Oh, and atmospheric landings too. Just saying.
 
Heat is the perturbation of the electromagnetic field by the nucleus of atoms oscillating about their equilibrium.

Time is not a dimension. It is a perceived thing, imaginary.

Let's try this another way. I defined what we think is time. Now you tell me. What is time? Use concrete, specific, empirical facts that can be repeated via experimentation.

If you take time as a variable in any mathematical equation you can call it a dimesion. Or don't, not everybody agree about it. But it's a physical property that is required to define a system and even if you zen and lose your perception of time it will still continue( fast or slow according to your chosen frame point). Those protons and electrons will be one place now and there later. The fact that you can say particle a was here, then here, then here means you are using time as a measurement. If the position or order of positions is meaningless then so is time, but usually it's pretty important and very much real. Even in the theoretical bounds of an event horizon there is the time before entering it and after the black hole eventually dissipates.

Time exists and were all gonna die.

I should stop watching those Kurzgesagt videos.
 
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