I have been surprised.

I didn't think Frontier could surprise me, then I looked at the materials trader in 3.0. A factor of 6. Are you serious.

Yeah, they only said it explicitly and then showed it in the stream. Surprising stuff indeed! You can also downgrade 3:1. Anyone with an inkling of creativity immediately sees how this system massively works in our favor. As in 'insanely ludicrously so'.

Dont worry though, youtube guides will be up in a few days. ;)
 
So, is the point of beta testing to try out the absolute worst ideas and then gradually dial them back to reasonable changes? Asking for a friend who thinks FD is being stupid.
It's what politicians do on a daily basis.
Introduce a simply horrific bill/tax raise/whatever, with another goal in mind.
Wait for the ear-deafening reaction.
Show how in touch with the voters they are by dialing it back to the goal they actually wanted in the first place.
Public is mollified.
 
I didn't think Frontier could surprise me, then I looked at the materials trader in 3.0. A factor of 6. Are you serious.

As this is a beta test it might be useful to give arguments for what you like or do not like.
If the arguments are convincing then FDev might listen.
FDev have already implemented so many changes as a result of comments and ideas on the forums that the chance of them tweaking stuff is quite high.
 
yes, that's when one get's tempted to do quick-shot responses.

Finally I also found there is three kinds of mat-traders: raw, manufactured and encoded. Now I can get 81 Nickel for 1 Polonium... or 81 Apples for 1 Banana. I think I can live with that.
 
So is it 6/3 up/down conversion? Maybe 5/4 would be better? Or maybe 4/3 even.
 
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So is it 6/3 up/down conversion? Maybe 5/4 would be better? Or maybe 4/3 even.

Roll out some modules and see how it flows and drop feedback in forum. This is something FD can and will most likely tweak.

My biggest complain so far is remote workshop blueprint limit. To make it viable, needs more than one module and more than one grade. 3 x 2 would be ok.
 
For the avoidance of doubt. No one will ever swap up. Only ever swap down. Horde class 5 to trade. But if I wanted to example how incredibly disconnected from reality and player investment, the current materials trader would be it.

Between that and “just press the button until max engineered result”, I am not sure what to make of beta. I swore a lot today. Excessive, seems to be an insufficient term.
 
Don't know, rate 1:81 G1 vs G5 seems to be quite ok if I am honest.

Honestly go do some engineering and come back when you’ve actually spent some time engaged in the mechanics you are endlessly commenting on. It might help improve the objectivity and provide some context. Fly safe.
 
Honestly go do some engineering and come back when you’ve actually spent some time engaged in the mechanics you are endlessly commenting on. It might help improve the objectivity and provide some context. Fly safe.

I did. Mats trader doesn't ruffle my feathers, liking interface, seems like I have collect tons of mats in my last six months. Pinned blueprints would be nice to have way more. Other than that I am really ok with what I saw.
 
I did. Mats trader doesn't ruffle my feathers, liking interface, seems like I have collect tons of mats in my last six months. Pinned blueprints would be nice to have way more. Other than that I am really ok with what I saw.

On what planet is 1:81, one way, versus 7775:1 sane the other. Did you even look? We can only carry 100 of each material, which means any trade with a factor of greater than 100:1 is illogical nonsense and might as well just be capped at 100:1.

But sure. Just ignore entire aspects. No problem.
 
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On what planet is 1:81, one way, versus 7775:1 sane the other. Did you even look? We can only carry 100 of each material, which means any trade with a factor of greater than 100:1 is illogical nonsense and might as well just be capped at 100:1.

But sure. Just ignore entire aspects. No problem.

I comment on what I saw. If you see problems/bugs - report them. Like I was commenting on only G1 vs. G5 rate and only that :)
 
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