No, the playerbase aren't the original investors. In fact they provided only a little part of the production costs.
http://www.pcgamer.com/elite-danger...n-one-quarter-of-its-total-cost-creator-says/
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I just don't get it - baffled and on the verge of uninstall - Yes I said it!
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No, the playerbase aren't the original investors. In fact they provided only a little part of the production costs.
http://www.pcgamer.com/elite-danger...n-one-quarter-of-its-total-cost-creator-says/
Sorry to burst your bubble, but neither Sandro nor FDev have pledged to do any such thing. All that Sandro has said is "I would like to". A year or so ago he also said he would like to revamp PowerPlay (and other stuff), and still no sign of that. So I take "I would like" to mean he's thinking about possible design improvements, but they are still at just the early planning stage, and there is no guarantee if FDev will even give the go-ahead to fully design & implement any of those changes.Wait a sec Nutter, are you just going to ignore Max Factor's post on the exciting quotes from Sandro?? ... Frontier has finally pledged to address core game play this next "season" and have suggested that a focus point of that love will be on Exploration. That's pretty exciting imo, and I am cautiously optimistic
No they can't, see above. Also, I can't recall his phrasing about Karma improvements, but I think he used stronger language than "I would like" for that.
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Giving? I don't know what UK bankruptcy law on the subject is, but someone is going to find out.
Giving? I don't know what UK bankruptcy law on the subject is, but someone is going to find out.
As pointed out above, he doesn't even have a point to begin with...
Even the meanest intelligence can understand that unhappy customers = diminishing market for sales = poor return on investment = investors pulling out.
Enlighten us on how you plan to pull your 'investment' out. ^^
Let's hope new ship releases won't end up in lock boxes, like they did in STO after it was taken over by PWE.
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I'm looking forward to the exploration love, fingers crossed it is implemented as Sandro has envisioned rather than what kinda happens with Brabens vision and what actually gets in game
No one is taking their money back, we've all bought Elite and Frontier has our money. I think the larger threat to the future of the franchise would be that customers who leave the game will not be buying any further DLC or future expansions/seasons/whatever the model for 3.0+ will be, nor will they be spreading positive word of mouth or creating soft advertising via posts/screenshots/videos. It's important to keep the customers happy in order to ensure revenue stream and positive buzz, that's just business.
Well you completely missed the point. Anyway, it looks like the contrary is happening, so since you didn't get mine, care to explain your point?
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If you take a look at player numbers and PS4 reviews (both professional and user reviews) you'll notice that the game is more healthy than ever. People are saying the game will die since release, so far they all have been wrong. The customers are happy. It's just the forum echo chamber that makes you think they aren't. My advice: Stop spending so much time in those threads with the usual borderline negative people and you might realise that the state of the game isn't as bad as you think.
We've been hearing it since 2015, and the game isn't dead yet. Some folk just like to moan, and are thoroughly miserable if they cannot be all doom and gloom.
Actually it's my friend's list and galaxy map empty of green commander icons which tells me that fewer people are playing now than they used to, and the friends I know personally who no longer play and have walked away, but hey, that's just my point of view. I would say that not all customers are happy, but certainly players new to the game would be.
Then play something else for god sakes. Don't sit here and try to spin good reviews into bad ones.
I ... haven't been? What review? :S
I agree with you that some design decisions were definetely wrong and that this alienated a part of the original playerbase. I also dislike a lot they did over the past years. They are (and continue) to be succesful though. Could they be more sucesful? Sure. Would this mean a better game for you? I doubt it. So the threat you are talking about in your original post doesn't really exist. If anything it seems like listening to you (or us) would be a bad move
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I've discussed before how the referenced poll is incredibly flawed. It should be taken as proof of nothing except that 468 people voted on it.
Lot of fun to be had in pew, btw.
Just saw this thread, can't really feel sympathetic at all. Frontier killed piracy basically two years ago and there was nothing to do other than find another game to play... but I had a hell of a good time while it lasted!
What killed piracy two years ago?
Primarily the cargo scooping bug. Folks would drop cargo, we would scoop it... none of it would appear in the hold. For a demonstration, see here:
[video=youtube;a98dM9tBG4o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a98dM9tBG4o[/video]
But there were other boneheaded Frontier decisions like killing railguns that ruined side fun(boating rails meant heat would melt them in record time, far before your ship would). But a curious thing happened a couple of years ago when the player population dipped... made it damn near impossible to find marks.
I predicted a possession curve with Elite upon release:
That everyone would eventually progress to bigger and bigger ships until folks were flying nothing but 'Condas, etc. Well, that happened. And idiotic stuff such as 30 millon cr/hour Maia(you get the idea) cargo runs let folks buy Condas in a week. Well, with the cargo bug, pure piracy players(those of us who wouldn't touch filthy things like trading), never could get any income from our chosen profession, so it simply died, unless we wanted to betray the pirate life.
Some of us are real pirates, however, and would never do such a thing--allow life to dictate how we must live. See, part of being a pirate is being free and abiding by nobody's rules. If the rules state that you can't make money as a pirate and you must bend over and do other menial tasks to make it, we stick our noses in the air and keep doing what pirates do--what we want to!
Thus... true pirates were soon left in the dust because their income stream vanished... due to Frontier refusing to fix the bug.
Now, with the low player pop, why bother getting back into the game? Robbing people in a Viper and a Cobra was so much fun. You can't do that anymore, because trading was easy street to riches and giant ships. But whatever, Frontier does what they do and that's their prerogative. If they wanted a more popular game, perhaps they should have thought things through better.