Due to a raising of arguments of "why is feature A or B from the pictures not in the DLC!?" from a thread here, and before it expands further beyond that, I feel like I must putt his out here right now. Because, you need to understand that what was shown in the event where people played them early was an early developer build, the screens actually say so, and not the full content DLC itself. You must take consideration that, again, everything you just saw in that build of the game and DLC was not the final version, it's like a play testing session. So before you use any hyperbole statements, you gotta also think that at nine times out of ten it's not actually someone with malicious or brain-dead intents, there's a deeper and more reasonable reason as to why this is currently that. And mistakes can happen to, and when they are, that's all they are.


I've been following and understanding Frontier Developments' post-release development of this particular game since last year, and I can tell you all already, they don't ever show and say something to the entire public that's coming up and then just remove them for good. They always confirm what is there or not in the current given time they post their postings with such confidence that those features will be this or not this.
 
Yes. The problem is, basegame suffered similar issues, with plenty of videos running around YT by early accessers and trailers with supposes 'in-game footages' only to launch months or weeks later exactly in that way: shallow, boring and unbelieveably over-prized 🤷‍♂️
 
The problem is that, even acknowledging and accepting that, the guys invited to the event (beaver, bestinslot etc) didn't have the wits to ask about these basic things. Why are you even there?
 
The problem is that, even acknowledging and accepting that, the guys invited to the event (beaver, bestinslot etc) didn't have the wits to ask about these basic things. Why are you even there?

lol to get paid, obviously. Why else would they go to an event where they won't likely be allowed to enjoy the content at it's fullest?
 
They're getting paid and good for them. Even if it isnt direct pay and just revenue from their YouTube videos. They arent going to rock the boat while they're there. Obviously frontier would limit what they could talk about. Im sure they asked all the questions we would and griped to them about their disappointments if the devs answered their questions. But they arent or cant come out and reveal all they know. They're gonna spin whatever they do know in a positive light so they can be invited back in the future.

All that said they did talk about what wasnt in the game from what they saw and what they were unhappy with.
 
They're getting paid and good for them. Even if it isnt direct pay and just revenue from their YouTube videos. They arent going to rock the boat while they're there. Obviously frontier would limit what they could talk about. Im sure they asked all the questions we would and griped to them about their disappointments if the devs answered their questions. But they arent or cant come out and reveal all they know. They're gonna spin whatever they do know in a positive light so they can be invited back in the future.

All that said they did talk about what wasnt in the game from what they saw and what they were unhappy with.

And yet we know nothing about that.
 
They told us nothing happens when the pteranadons break out.

Compys have no attacks on anything

The mesh for compys is just for looks

The raptor pen had limited to no function outside of the first mission

The isla sorna map sucks

There arent many new buildings

No mixing of eras

No entering the visitor center

No raptor climbing or new animations seen

No breeding

That's all the negative or disappointing things they brought up that i can think of off the top of my head. So it's not like they said everything was amazing and didn't tell us honestly what they know we arent getting. I dont get what your problem is with them.
 
They told us nothing happens when the pteranadons break out.

Compys have no attacks on anything

The mesh for compys is just for looks

The raptor pen had limited to no function outside of the first mission

The isla sorna map sucks

There arent many new buildings

No mixing of eras

No entering the visitor center

No raptor climbing or new animations seen

No breeding

That's all the negative or disappointing things they brought up that i can think of off the top of my head. So it's not like they said everything was amazing and didn't tell us honestly what they know we arent getting. I dont get what your problem is with them.

That's not what I meant- these are observations, not actual questions asked about features, a little extra mile beyond a superficial look.
 
It doesn't sound like it was a Q and A. Not the way beaver made it sound. He had to ask permission to replay and record a 2nd time, which they allowed but only if he didnt use his first recording footage. Sounds like they were allowed to play a test version and post their footage of that 1st mission only. Seems like they weren't given any real information except for what they could observe and them being told flat out that breeding isnt a real thing and even then it wasnt explained to them what the mission might involve.

This was free PR by frontier but they made sure that only what frontier wanted revealed would be seen. We cant fault the guys for that.
 
It doesn't sound like it was a Q and A. Not the way beaver made it sound. He had to ask permission to replay and record a 2nd time, which they allowed but only if he didnt use his first recording footage. Sounds like they were allowed to play a test version and post their footage of that 1st mission only. Seems like they weren't given any real information except for what they could observe and them being told flat out that breeding isnt a real thing and even then it wasnt explained to them what the mission might involve.

This was free PR by frontier but they made sure that only what frontier wanted revealed would be seen. We cant fault the guys for that.

Not very good practice from Frontier tbh to shut down Q&A.
 
Seems like it's frontier's usual policy to be as secretive as possible. They want people to buy their dlc hoping there will be more to it then what they've seen. Sadly that isnt the case. But i usually like enough of what i do know im getting that im happy i get it each time. Dont get me started on my disappointment that the Anklydonicus doesnt tail whip anyone with that club tail.... Bad memories....
 
Seems like it's frontier's usual policy to be as secretive as possible. They want people to buy their dlc hoping there will be more to it then what they've seen.

That's what I'm fearing, had this very same feeling since after launch. JP really looks awesome, but... personally, learnt my lessons. A couple of days watching YouTube and reading forums easily explain if it's indeed worth 20 more bucks.
 
No, they point is exactly the opposite. WYSIWYG. There will hardly be anything else.

What are you talking about? We haven't seen any final skin/remodel except JP raptor, attractions and other stuff are only visible for a second in the trailer then only bits of gameplay videos, we haven't seen the second map.
 
What are you talking about? We haven't seen any final skin/remodel except JP raptor, attractions and other stuff are only visible for a second in the trailer then only bits of gameplay videos, we haven't seen the second map.

There have been images and clips of most skins, and they new maps have been described and discused by those YTbers. What's left hardly will make any real surprise at the point. So far has already happened with the previous DLC
 
Due to a raising of arguments of "why is feature A or B from the pictures not in the DLC!?" from a thread here, and before it expands further beyond that, I feel like I must putt his out here right now. Because, you need to understand that what was shown in the event where people played them early was an early developer build, the screens actually say so, and not the full content DLC itself. You must take consideration that, again, everything you just saw in that build of the game and DLC was not the final version, it's like a play testing session. So before you use any hyperbole statements, you gotta also think that at nine times out of ten it's not actually someone with malicious or brain-dead intents, there's a deeper and more reasonable reason as to why this is currently that. And mistakes can happen to, and when they are, that's all they are.


I've been following and understanding Frontier Developments' post-release development of this particular game since last year, and I can tell you all already, they don't ever show and say something to the entire public that's coming up and then just remove them for good. They always confirm what is there or not in the current given time they post their postings with such confidence that those features will be this or not this.

Oh no! Logic! The enemy of the irrational. I think Frontier does a little more harm than good by showing things this way. Of course it's not their fault, it's the fault of the people who decide to act like they just saw a finished product. I saw a screen cap of a post from BIS on the JWE subreddit and he said that what he and the others were shown at the event was an early dev build of the DLC. I posted a video a while back where the person said that when they went to one of the first JWE events they saw frontier working on the Ford Explorer. They couldn't say anything cause of a NDA. By first event I believe he means one of the events before the game was launched. So that would be all the way back in June of last year, basically over a year ago. So Frontier has been working on this DLC for a while.

People should keep that in mind. Maybe it would be better if Frontier didn't show anyone anything till they were ready to release. Then people will whine about how Frontier doesn't tell them anything. People keep begging for Frontier to tell them more about the game and what they have planned. Then when they do they just whine and complain about it. It's really ridiculous.

If you don't trust Frontier and the DLC then wait till it gets released and decide then. But there isn't any point in trying to whip up an outrage mob.

Yes. The problem is, basegame suffered similar issues, with plenty of videos running around YT by early accessers and trailers with supposes 'in-game footages' only to launch months or weeks later exactly in that way: shallow, boring and unbelieveably over-prized 🤷‍♂️

I watched plenty of the videos made by YouTubers when they went to play the game in California and I don't remember seeing anything in those videos that wasn't in the game.

You find the game shallow, boring and over priced are all personal opinions. I thought the game was fun, not nearly as shallow as people say it is and it was priced pretty well and I bought the deluxe version for $60 so I could get the extra dinosaurs.

The problem is that you had expectations for things that Frontier never promised. Then when you don't get what you think you should get you blame frontier. When in reality you are the one to blame. Just like all these people that hype themselves up for features in the game or DLC's that Frontier never promised and they turn into toxic whining man children.

They told us nothing happens when the pteranadons break out.

Compys have no attacks on anything

The mesh for compys is just for looks

The raptor pen had limited to no function outside of the first mission

The isla sorna map sucks

There arent many new buildings

No mixing of eras

No entering the visitor center

No raptor climbing or new animations seen

No breeding

That's all the negative or disappointing things they brought up that i can think of off the top of my head. So it's not like they said everything was amazing and didn't tell us honestly what they know we arent getting. I dont get what your problem is with them.

Most of those aren't even a big deal. The raptor pen wouldn't work in the game and it didn't even look like an exhibit in the movies. It looked like a weird prison. How would people even see the raptors in that? In the novel there was no "raptor pen". The raptors were kept in a regular paddock. I think that makes more sense. The whole raptor pen idea from the movie was really dumb when you think about it.

Going into the vistor center shouldn't even be on the list cause it should not have been expected. This a park builder and not some kind of first person exploration game. If you want to see inside the visitor center then go watch the movie or play one of the many fan made "games" where you could just walk around and explore the visitor center. If you are disappointed that you can't enter a building in a game where that isn't even an option then the blame is all on you and not frontier.
 
It doesn't sound like it was a Q and A. Not the way beaver made it sound. He had to ask permission to replay and record a 2nd time, which they allowed but only if he didnt use his first recording footage. Sounds like they were allowed to play a test version and post their footage of that 1st mission only. Seems like they weren't given any real information except for what they could observe and them being told flat out that breeding isnt a real thing and even then it wasnt explained to them what the mission might involve.

This was free PR by frontier but they made sure that only what frontier wanted revealed would be seen. We cant fault the guys for that.

It was an early dev build. Frontier probably wants to hold certain things back for a surprise effect. This game has already had some pretty major leaks and they can't be happy about that.

What are you talking about? We haven't seen any final skin/remodel except JP raptor, attractions and other stuff are only visible for a second in the trailer then only bits of gameplay videos, we haven't seen the second map.

He doesn't know what he is talking about. We saw the JP raptors with the JP skins in the first mission. BIS said that he saw the JP3 raptors in the game, that the male version with the quills wasn't finished. But the model was moving around. Just the skin wasn't done. Also BIS said the Rex has multiple skins, an A and B variant. I guess A is the 93 version and B is the lost world version of the skin. Also the Rex is obviously remodeled. We saw the JP3 Brachiosaur in one of the screen shots so we know that's in the DLC. BIS also said there will be two skins for the Triceratops. The brownish red colored one and the blue greyish one that was the actual color of the Triceratops model used in the film before they covered it with dirt to make it look "better".

So either Frontier is farther along with this DLC's development than what we were shown from the event videos or Frontier is really lazy and hasn't worked on the game too much cause they are too busy picking their noses and collecting pocket lint.

But hey, we didn't see those JP3 raptor skins in those videos so they obviously aren't in the game. BIS is just a liar. LOL
 
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