I'm too lazy for that.
I’d like more commanders in the Open
- Thread starter Moriarte
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This is the way.
They've tried dealing with this using C&P rules applied to the galaxy but it hasn't worked in the past. There simply isn't the deterrent or consequences in game to make gankers think twice. There will always be players who get kicks out of spoiling another players fun and picking on the noobs because they can. You just have to look at distant ganks to see how much enjoyment they get out or ruining other players games. It's that kind of behaviour which killed Jumpgate for a lot of people and why Eve doesn't really attract many new players these days.
I used to be against it but the only way I see this being resolved is by having a PVE/PVP flag attached to the ship. You could dress it up as a Pilot Federation Jammer meaning that if it's active, other Pilot's Federation pilots cannot fire on your ship (even in conflict zones). I would say that this needs balancing, for example, it can only be switched on or off in a stationI.e. If you have the jammer on at any point in the last or game time, any actions you've done do not affect the BGS, Powerplay Background, or even CGs won't count.
I used to be against it but the only way I see this being resolved is by having a PVE/PVP flag attached to the ship. You could dress it up as a Pilot Federation Jammer meaning that if it's active, other Pilot's Federation pilots cannot fire on your ship (even in conflict zones). I would say that this needs balancing, for example, it can only be switched on or off in a stationI.e. If you have the jammer on at any point in the last or game time, any actions you've done do not affect the BGS, Powerplay Background, or even CGs won't count.
Here I was thinking we were all playing Elite Dangerous...
inb4 'it's the rank stupid', Hotel California, etc. Memes confirmed.
Griefers would be flying Eagles instead of easy-mode G5 FDLs if this were true.
Can you unblock people?
I considered blocking a cmdr once a couple of years back when some mates and I were trying to get into CQC, but every time we started up a game we'd sooner or later (usually sooner) get lobbied with this same player who would no contest wipe the floor with all of us. Unsure about weather or not it good be undone, I was hesitant to block him because I'd been seeing that cmdr frequently at community goals and A) never had a problem with him in open, and B) didnt want potential friend list/block lists conflicts stuffing around with instancing and diminishing the amount of cmdrs I'd see in open. The curb stomping we got from in CQC quickly killed off my mates enthusiasm for continuing with that mode, so it never got to the point where I might have decided to roll the dice on the block, and try and unblock later in open.
I considered blocking a cmdr once a couple of years back when some mates and I were trying to get into CQC, but every time we started up a game we'd sooner or later (usually sooner) get lobbied with this same player who would no contest wipe the floor with all of us. Unsure about weather or not it good be undone, I was hesitant to block him because I'd been seeing that cmdr frequently at community goals and A) never had a problem with him in open, and B) didnt want potential friend list/block lists conflicts stuffing around with instancing and diminishing the amount of cmdrs I'd see in open. The curb stomping we got from in CQC quickly killed off my mates enthusiasm for continuing with that mode, so it never got to the point where I might have decided to roll the dice on the block, and try and unblock later in open.
People would still whine about gankers in G5 Eagles killing their paper-thin T7s.
The attitudes towards preparation, situational awareness, and skill will still remain. People would rather push a button than learn.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
Playing in Open with a jammer would be functionally no different from playing in Solo or PG where players do affect the BGS, etc. - so no need to arbitrarily remove the effects of those players....
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Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
Only if those who enjoy PvP would take the time to consider whether their target actually wanted to engage them.
.... if not then it's an unwelcome intrusion - and can be completely avoided with a suitable choice on starting the game session.
All this will lead to is a whole heap of threads about how Frontier broke the game by making security capable of destroying player ships in high RES whenever they hit a system security ship hard enough to trigger an assault bounty. Personally I'm all for turning security ships into something more than a clay shoot, but this would create more salt than any gankers possibly could.Well said but I suspect it will fall on deaf ears here
In my apparently limited opinion, the game could be improved if the system security ratings were enforced. For example, for a cleanskin, Anarchy space should be highly dangerous, somewhere you only go to when you really have to. Likewise, a High Security system should be damn near instant death for anyone who likes to flirt on the wrong side of the law. Now that would mean places like SD become if not off limits, then extremely dangerous to those who want to play the bad guy.
The only other change is to label non-populated space just that, Non-populated - not Anarchy.
And it sure won't be the button to join your lobby.
Opt in PVP league, changes the colour of your icon on radar to announce that you are consenting to PVP, have a seperate score board and medal for PVP, squadron and individual, lose points on tables for attacking a player without a reason (not wanted, no cargo, not aligned to a rival power etc).
Would help the PVP players find a purpose.
Would help the PVP players find a purpose.
Yes, it's quite easy - done from the Social menu.
I clear my block list on occasion, just to keep things interesting.
Agree not to disagree. However, Karma can be a female dog.
And when she decides to transform, one of these parties will end up predictably producing more brine content than Mother Nature ever could in the Dead Sea.
At which point, said party will come on here trying to achieve the social interaction they completely failed to experience in Open. Which leaves one to speculate said party may be oblivious to the fact they're socially challenged morons in real life....
Exhibit #1: The typical Mad Max Cmnder rallying cry to get FDev to change ED into their form of game play
Make Open Play matter - Power Play and BGS should be influenced only in open
Blocking should just block chat and not impact instancing Power Play numbers for the powers only impacted by actions in Open. Still allow merits to be earned in Solo/PG that influence the players rank and nothing else (Maybe bonus for doing in open) BGS factions only impacted by actions in Open...
Exhibit #2: You simply. Cannot. Make. This. Sort. Of. Mad. Logic. Up
BGS does't work in this way!!!
I've noticed that my PMF can't win CZ despite big efforts of my mates! It is the fourth time in two different systems (LP 580-33 this summer and Lalande 45292 now....) Example: in three days we reach Victory..... then in next days we return close victory...... draw.... close defeat etc. with...
Exhibit #3: Here we go again. Seems this particular Mad Maxer was wound reaaly tight. To the point that it seems if a lump of coal was inserted in their derrière, you could come back in 1 week and extract a diamond....
Nerf BGS effects for Solo & Private
It's altogether broken that a group can hide in Solo & Private and just grind away to support their faction, with the same level of effect as people playing in Open. A 75% reduction in influence effects would probably be adequate to compensate for the reduced risk.
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Hahaha. Finally I found out where diamonds come from.
It's abundantly clear to me now, after reading this thread, why the Thargoids have only ever been a minor inconvenience instead of an actual existential threat to the bubble since they were introduced. Most of the people here would rather ignore them than actually have to contend with their presence.
This is exactly why we can't have nice things.
This is exactly why we can't have nice things.
Both the open only argument and the make the meanie griefers go away are both equally ridiculous based on current reality.Agree not to disagree. However, Karma can be a female dog.
And when she decides to transform, one of these parties will end up predictably producing more brine content than Mother Nature ever could in the Dead Sea.
At which point, said party will come on here trying to achieve the social interaction they completely failed to experience in Open. Which leaves one to speculate said party may be oblivious to the fact they're socially challenged morons in real life....
Exhibit #1: The typical Mad Max Cmnder rallying cry to get FDev to change ED into their form of game play
Make Open Play matter - Power Play and BGS should be influenced only in open
Blocking should just block chat and not impact instancing Power Play numbers for the powers only impacted by actions in Open. Still allow merits to be earned in Solo/PG that influence the players rank and nothing else (Maybe bonus for doing in open) BGS factions only impacted by actions in Open...forums.frontier.co.uk
Exhibit #2: You simply. Cannot. Make. This. Sort. Of. Mad. Logic. Up
BGS does't work in this way!!!
I've noticed that my PMF can't win CZ despite big efforts of my mates! It is the fourth time in two different systems (LP 580-33 this summer and Lalande 45292 now....) Example: in three days we reach Victory..... then in next days we return close victory...... draw.... close defeat etc. with...
Exhibit #3: Here we go again. Seems this particular Mad Maxer was wound reaaly tight. To the point that it seems if a lump of coal was inserted in their derrière, you could come back in 1 week and extract a diamond....
Nerf BGS effects for Solo & Private
It's altogether broken that a group can hide in Solo & Private and just grind away to support their faction, with the same level of effect as people playing in Open. A 75% reduction in influence effects would probably be adequate to compensate for the reduced risk.
It would be nice if players who are engaged in gameplay against another group of players would do so in open, but the choice is there not to do that. Just as the choice to not fly into a ganker's frag cannons, or build your ship to withstand the attack is there as well.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
Frontier went down a different path with this incarnation of the classic Elite - instead of the combat focus of the original they introduced two new Elite ranks that can be achieved without firing a shot at a CMDR / NPC.
This being the case, it's not surprising that there are a number of players rather less combat focused than those for whom combat particularly appeals.
A game where Thargoids are a legitimate, existential threat would have been
1) Amazing.
2) True to the game's lore.
3) Too much for the risk-averse segments of the community to handle. You know who you are.
1) Amazing.
2) True to the game's lore.
3) Too much for the risk-averse segments of the community to handle. You know who you are.
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