Ideas for Squadron Battles with Fleet Carriers

[Tharrn]

Is he an official spokesperson for FD now, or making best guesses like everyone else?

Well, they call me General Smartypants for a reason... as he posted a video like 1 minute after the official release of the info I would guess he got extra special advance info. Or he is just very, very quick. Or a time traveller.

 

[RedwoodLynx]

Head, meet desk. OP your post is eye watering, so I can only assume you aren't aware that Elite uses a P2P networking model. P2P is very, very bad for anything massively multiplayer. It is unpredictable both in terms of speed and reliability, and lacks any centralized authority.

An aside- if it's so terrible, why keep using it? Its 2019, the game has been out for years and years at this point

 

[Bryan K]

To be fair, carriers don’t fight carriers today either. They stay hundreds or even thousands of miles apart and let their aircraft do the work.

 

[Drelthar]

I'm struggling to see the point of carriers. Anyone want to fill me in?

Sure!

They are for, carrying fleets!

 

[ebbrell]

lets hope they have good defences just in case they are fired up on

 

[nosleepdemon]

An aside- if it's so terrible, why keep using it? Its 2019, the game has been out for years and years at this point

It's cheaper, since it requires less computation on the server/Frontier side.

 

[IndigoWyrd]

How does squadron combat work with fleet carriers? I read that there can't be 2 fleet carriers in the same instance. That's disappointing, because it means there can't be epic FC vs FC battles.

If only 1 fleet carrier is allowed per instance, how does a squadron attack an other FC?

They Don’t.

If fleet carriers are indestructible then there's no big end-game money sink. So once you've fully upgraded your FC, you'd continue to accumulate credits which eventually becomes pointless. Some people who worked hard to buy a FC can get upset if its destroyed. However, destructible ships are beneficial to the longevity of an online game. In Eve Online the biggest capital ships are destructible. Capital ships are very expensive, but Eve Online solves this obstacle by permitting player guilds (corporations) to share resources. So a new player could receive an expensive ship from a guild to participate in guild activities, battles etc. This ensures a continuous cycle of ship production and destruction which keeps the game economy alive. A compromise is possible. If the FC can be severely damaged by a hostile squadron, the FC owner would keep the ship and it adds a significant money sink in the end-game phase.

Is this EVE? No? Good. Much like Las Vegas, what happens in EVE stays in EVE.

If we wanted to play EVE, we’d play EVE. Clearly since we’re playing Elite, which doesn’t even have a “v” in it at all, we don’t want to play EVE, do we?

It’s no one’s fault Elite has better graphics, a bigger play area, better controls and only 1/100th of the grind your precious EVE has. Perhaps you should go over to the EVE forums and complain how more like Elite they should make EVE and see where that gets you.

Goonfleet for Life and Beyond.

 

[BinakAlgo]

To be fair, carriers don’t fight carriers today either. They stay hundreds or even thousands of miles apart and let their aircraft do the work.

In that case, what we need are player or squadron owned Farraguts and Interdictors!

 

[Vicktore Beskor]

You did if you bought it on the basis of ' Empire building ' which they have never offered or even hinted at.

I never wanted to build an Empire I knew the Elite Dangerous was not eve online but I was hoping for more Squadron gameplay options and tools to make be apart of a Squadron have some value.

 

[Vicktore Beskor]

They Don’t.



Is this EVE? No? Good. Much like Las Vegas, what happens in EVE stays in EVE.

If we wanted to play EVE, we’d play EVE. Clearly since we’re playing Elite, which doesn’t even have a “v” in it at all, we don’t want to play EVE, do we?

It’s no one’s fault Elite has better graphics, a bigger play area, better controls and only 1/100th of the grind your precious EVE has. Perhaps you should go over to the EVE forums and complain how more like Elite they should make EVE and see where that gets you.

Goonfleet for Life and Beyond.

I respectfully disagree with you Eve online is the best MMO ever made. The only thing about eve is that it becomes a second life.

 

[Cosmo]

It’s no one’s fault Elite has better graphics, a bigger play area, better controls and only 1/100th of the grind your precious EVE has. Perhaps you should go over to the EVE forums and complain how more like Elite they should make EVE and see where that gets you.

That's the old turn Elite into Eve Online straw man. The fact is other MMOs have great features that could be used to improve Elite.

The Fleet Carrier seems to offer little for conducing epic squadron battles. Because 1. there can't be two FC in the same instance. 2. they're indestructible and unclear whether they can be damaged a lot. 3. The FC seems to have little connection with the background sim such as powerplay and territorial control.

The Fleet Carrier should be more than a personal mobile station.

 

[IndigoWyrd]

That's the old turn Elite into Eve Online straw man. The fact is other MMOs have great features that could be used to improve Elite.

The Fleet Carrier seems to offer little for conducing epic squadron battles. Because 1. there can't be two FC in the same instance. 2. they're indestructible and unclear whether they can be damaged a lot. 3. The FC seems to have little connection with the background sim such as powerplay and territorial control.

The Fleet Carrier should be more than a personal mobile station.

Followed up by a tu quoque and a no-true-scotsman in one reply. I applaud you - you have and enormous fallacy.

 

[IndigoWyrd]

Make carriers open only.

And Shadow Ban Attack Chimp. ;-)

 

[Cosmo]

Followed up by a tu quoque and a no-true-scotsman in one reply. I applaud you - you have and enormous fallacy.

IndigoWyrd tries to derail the thread.