Fantastic job, CMDR Leif_Erikson! You are the Marco Polo of the Galaxy! 
If At First You Don't Succeed...... Try Again
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The words of Bono "I still haven't found what I'm looking for" is in my head as I reach waypoint 4- the O star at Phroea Blou.
On this waypoint travelled 8,102lyrs and scanned 679 WD systems (315 DC, 210 DA, 87 DAB, 24 DB, 21 DAV, 14 DCV, 2 DBV, 5 DAZ and 1 DBZ) for a total for tour of 11,797 WD systems scanned.
First DAZ and DBZ types found on tour. DAZ types tend to turn up in sector boxels- where you find one DAZ you will find others nearby and occasionally a very rare DBZ type too.
Only 5 close orbiting worlds and only thing of note is an ELW orbiting a secondary K star- that makes 3 ELW finds for the tour.
Has been reported that another ELW has been located orbiting a WD. Two things give me fresh hope with this find. One, it is the first ELW/WD find with secondary stars in the system and the location is in a relatively sparse WD field. As the first finds were found in WD rich fields around the galactic core with high figures after the D code was wondering if it would be only these that could support an ELW but the new find is a D25.
So heading off to waypoint 5- the O star at Dryio Blou AA-A H370 and hoping after 3 ELW/WD finds I will get the fourth........although I am beginning to worry I will still be doing this and ending "The ninth ELW/WD has been found, here's hoping I find the tenth!"
On this waypoint travelled 8,102lyrs and scanned 679 WD systems (315 DC, 210 DA, 87 DAB, 24 DB, 21 DAV, 14 DCV, 2 DBV, 5 DAZ and 1 DBZ) for a total for tour of 11,797 WD systems scanned.
First DAZ and DBZ types found on tour. DAZ types tend to turn up in sector boxels- where you find one DAZ you will find others nearby and occasionally a very rare DBZ type too.
Only 5 close orbiting worlds and only thing of note is an ELW orbiting a secondary K star- that makes 3 ELW finds for the tour.
Has been reported that another ELW has been located orbiting a WD. Two things give me fresh hope with this find. One, it is the first ELW/WD find with secondary stars in the system and the location is in a relatively sparse WD field. As the first finds were found in WD rich fields around the galactic core with high figures after the D code was wondering if it would be only these that could support an ELW but the new find is a D25.
So heading off to waypoint 5- the O star at Dryio Blou AA-A H370 and hoping after 3 ELW/WD finds I will get the fourth........although I am beginning to worry I will still be doing this and ending "The ninth ELW/WD has been found, here's hoping I find the tenth!"
I think it's no secret that systems with the remains of stars (not the second star) can't have earth-like planets. As well as in systems with young stars and intermediate links between stars and gas giants. In the first case, when the gas shell explodes/is released, the stellar wind will simply tear off any atmosphere and sterilize the planets of the near environment to a bare rock. In the second case, the heat and light of a brown dwarf of any known type will not be enough to form and support life at a level above plankton.
So why are you looking for earth-like ones where they shouldn't be? To send a report to Fdev for correction?
So why are you looking for earth-like ones where they shouldn't be? To send a report to Fdev for correction?
ELWs around brown dwarfs and stellar remnants are well known in the ED galaxy, albeit that they are very rare, whether they should exist or not.
Life limited to the plankton level wouldn't be a problem for an ED ELW though - so long as its photosynthesis (or analogous metabolic process) is keeping enough oxygen in the atmosphere for it be human breathable then it's an ELW. Other earth like characteristics are a nice to have by FDev's definition.
I think it's pretty arrogant to say sth in the universe can't be, cause of the things we know/assume.
Although the explanations science offers today might sound reasonable, tomorrow anything could be vice versa
(there are still enough people on earth living on a 2000years old disc)
This and that we play a game settled a thousand years in the future makes it easy for me to live with the "glitches" the stellar forge produces
Although the explanations science offers today might sound reasonable, tomorrow anything could be vice versa
(there are still enough people on earth living on a 2000years old disc
) This and that we play a game settled a thousand years in the future makes it easy for me to live with the "glitches" the stellar forge produces
And some Astrophysics believe it could be found- see link here- Earth Like planets Orbiting White Dwarf
And they can be found in game. Only Wolf Rayets, O stars and Y brown dwarfs have no reports of an ELW in orbit.
And they can be found in game. Only Wolf Rayets, O stars and Y brown dwarfs have no reports of an ELW in orbit.
Are there any reported Herbigs with elws?
That's pretty cool. In theory could they be a real possibility in such a young system? I assume life would be quite basic and the most advanced life forms would be plants and such.
Have arrived at waypoint 5, the O star at Dryio Blou AA-A H370. Turns out to be a O giant star, so a new entry for my Codex.
Nothing of note found between waypoints. The main part of the journey seemed to plot along a sparse WD field- suspect there must have been a gap in the spiral arm in the area. I was able to eco route through it but a fair few of the jumps were over 30-40lyrs which caused issues with fuel. I tend to find scoopable secondary stars to fill up but a few times had to detour to a scoopable star system to fill up when the tank went down to almost empty.
It also caused a drop in WD systems found too- travelled 7,786lyrs but only reached 404 systems (204 DC, 110 DA, 47 DAB, 17 DB, 14 DCV, 8 DAV, 2 DBV, 1 DAZ and 1 DBZ types) and only three close orbiting worlds along the waypoint.
The EDSM star records have been incomplete and missing details for a while but seems to be up and running again and noticed I have gained three records around WD systems since the tour started- that makes four with a record I still hold from 3303.
So heading to waypoint 6 to the O star at Phrooe Flyoae and hoping to find something of note. The journey is expected to last the year.....unless I find the wow system!
But am in the gambling highway zone now- after over 12,000 WD systems checked can I just give up now? So I will carry on. Perhaps I will carry on into the next year until I find a new Odyssey to aim for...… bad pun!
Nothing of note found between waypoints. The main part of the journey seemed to plot along a sparse WD field- suspect there must have been a gap in the spiral arm in the area. I was able to eco route through it but a fair few of the jumps were over 30-40lyrs which caused issues with fuel. I tend to find scoopable secondary stars to fill up but a few times had to detour to a scoopable star system to fill up when the tank went down to almost empty.
It also caused a drop in WD systems found too- travelled 7,786lyrs but only reached 404 systems (204 DC, 110 DA, 47 DAB, 17 DB, 14 DCV, 8 DAV, 2 DBV, 1 DAZ and 1 DBZ types) and only three close orbiting worlds along the waypoint.
The EDSM star records have been incomplete and missing details for a while but seems to be up and running again and noticed I have gained three records around WD systems since the tour started- that makes four with a record I still hold from 3303.
So heading to waypoint 6 to the O star at Phrooe Flyoae and hoping to find something of note. The journey is expected to last the year.....unless I find the wow system!
But am in the gambling highway zone now- after over 12,000 WD systems checked can I just give up now? So I will carry on. Perhaps I will carry on into the next year until I find a new Odyssey to aim for...… bad pun!
Arrived at the O Star destination at Phrooe Flyoae. Only report on this waypoint is an uncomfortable looking WW orbiting a WD and had to repair my FSD as it has strted misfiring. Won't bother being a Statto on distances and systems found- I'll leave that when I reach Jaques on next waypoint
I was thinking if all possible all planetary bodies be found orbiting a White Dwarf?. For instance, Metal Rich Worlds tend not to be found orbiting main L Stars and never heard of a Class IV or V Gas Giant around a main T Star. Am also sure no Ammonia Worlds have been found orbiting an O Star too. Did notice for all the Icy Worlds found around a WD hadn't noticed a Rocky or Rocky Ice World so time to check it out..... and after a lot of hunting, they do- normally moons of a Gas World but are quite uncommon (especially Rocky Ices). So here is a list of my finds...
Metal Rich World-
Metal Rich World with NO atmosphere-
High Metal World ; Candidate for terraforming found
High Metal World with NO atmosphere-
Rocky World-
Rocky World with NO atmosphere-
Icy World-
Icy World with NO atmosphere-
Rocky Ice World-
Rocky Ice World with NO atmosphere-
Earth Like World-
Ammonia World-
Water World- ; Candidate for terraforming found
Water Giant-
Gas Giant with Water Based life-
Gas Giant with Ammonia based life-
Class I Gas Giant-
Class II Gas Giant-
Class III Gas Giant-
Class IV Gas Giant-
Class V Gas Giant-
Helium Rich Gas Giant-
Helium Giant
So four not found so far but know that ELW can be found and would presume the others are possible except Helium Giants as only one pro gen system has been found in the galaxy!
Although I'm starting to wonder if I'll find a Helium Giant before an ELW!
Next stop Colonia- I hear they have wonderful baths there that help with radiation poisoning
I was thinking if all possible all planetary bodies be found orbiting a White Dwarf?. For instance, Metal Rich Worlds tend not to be found orbiting main L Stars and never heard of a Class IV or V Gas Giant around a main T Star. Am also sure no Ammonia Worlds have been found orbiting an O Star too. Did notice for all the Icy Worlds found around a WD hadn't noticed a Rocky or Rocky Ice World so time to check it out..... and after a lot of hunting, they do- normally moons of a Gas World but are quite uncommon (especially Rocky Ices). So here is a list of my finds...
Metal Rich World- Metal Rich World with NO atmosphere- High Metal World ; Candidate for terraforming found High Metal World with NO atmosphere- Rocky World- Rocky World with NO atmosphere- Icy World- Icy World with NO atmosphere- Rocky Ice World- Rocky Ice World with NO atmosphere- Earth Like World- Ammonia World- Water World- ; Candidate for terraforming found Water Giant- Gas Giant with Water Based life- Gas Giant with Ammonia based life- Class I Gas Giant- Class II Gas Giant- Class III Gas Giant- Class IV Gas Giant- Class V Gas Giant- Helium Rich Gas Giant- Helium GiantSo four not found so far but know that ELW can be found and would presume the others are possible except Helium Giants as only one pro gen system has been found in the galaxy!
Although I'm starting to wonder if I'll find a Helium Giant before an ELW!
Next stop Colonia- I hear they have wonderful baths there that help with radiation poisoning
Arrived at Colonia.
Before heading and relaxing at Jaques decided to have a snoop at these new fangled Fleet Cruisers. Landed at ICS Bacterian and sold a few pages of data there before setting off.
Not interested in buying one as for current tour looking for the smallest jump ranges-not the largest! Plus I'm a tight fisted multi billionaire from exploring and I want to keep it that way.
So now I'm docked, sold data and relaxed can sort out data from tour. According to EDDiscovery I have scanned 13,318 WD systems (6140 DC, 4041 DA, 1621 DAB, 680 DB, 379 DCV, 371 DAV, 76 DBV, 7 DAZ and 3 DBZ). On these there was 112 close orbiting worlds (within 35ls from star). This seems to come up with a figure of one every 119 systems. Compared to a find of 1 in 65 on T stars that isn't impressive at all and am surprised at that.
And notable finds orbiting White Dwarfs....well, no Earth Likes orbiting that's for sure! Two Ammonia Worlds, twelve Water Worlds (one terraformable), two terraformable High Metals and three Earth Likes orbiting secondary stars.
Next trip to go around the Galactic Circle as the stellar density is higher. Wish me all the best...
Before heading and relaxing at Jaques decided to have a snoop at these new fangled Fleet Cruisers. Landed at ICS Bacterian and sold a few pages of data there before setting off.
Not interested in buying one as for current tour looking for the smallest jump ranges-not the largest! Plus I'm a tight fisted multi billionaire from exploring and I want to keep it that way.
So now I'm docked, sold data and relaxed can sort out data from tour. According to EDDiscovery I have scanned 13,318 WD systems (6140 DC, 4041 DA, 1621 DAB, 680 DB, 379 DCV, 371 DAV, 76 DBV, 7 DAZ and 3 DBZ). On these there was 112 close orbiting worlds (within 35ls from star). This seems to come up with a figure of one every 119 systems. Compared to a find of 1 in 65 on T stars that isn't impressive at all and am surprised at that.
And notable finds orbiting White Dwarfs....well, no Earth Likes orbiting that's for sure! Two Ammonia Worlds, twelve Water Worlds (one terraformable), two terraformable High Metals and three Earth Likes orbiting secondary stars.
Next trip to go around the Galactic Circle as the stellar density is higher. Wish me all the best...
Next part of my destination- to search around the Galactic Circle and have arrived at first destination, an O Star at Hypoe Pruae FG-Y G1663. One of four I have used as markers.
At least heading towards the core has increased the density and so far have scanned 15,102 WD systems on tour. Just wish there more to show after heading from Jaques but only noticeable finds are two WWs and one terra HMC.
Almost five months searching am beginning to worry I'm gonna draw a blank finding an ELW but that's the drawback of searching for the very rare. I sill have six months of 3306 to check and hope.
But I can't say I'm not trying. Checked on EDSM to see how many WD systems I had uploaded and for DC's there are 83,083 systems on there and I have first discovered 8,994 at this point which means 9.2% of all DC's are from me! The same sort of figures apply to the other types except DBZ and DBV where I have 17% and 16% of those- almost one in 5
And I'm running out of time to find one to put on Marx's ELW list.
At least heading towards the core has increased the density and so far have scanned 15,102 WD systems on tour. Just wish there more to show after heading from Jaques but only noticeable finds are two WWs and one terra HMC.
Almost five months searching am beginning to worry I'm gonna draw a blank finding an ELW but that's the drawback of searching for the very rare. I sill have six months of 3306 to check and hope.
But I can't say I'm not trying. Checked on EDSM to see how many WD systems I had uploaded and for DC's there are 83,083 systems on there and I have first discovered 8,994 at this point which means 9.2% of all DC's are from me! The same sort of figures apply to the other types except DBZ and DBV where I have 17% and 16% of those- almost one in 5
And I'm running out of time to find one to put on Marx's ELW list.
When you find it, you could always make it entry #1 on a new list....just sayin'
Those are some crazy stats, CMDR!Next part of my destination- to search around the Galactic Circle and have arrived at first destination, an O Star at Hypoe Pruae FG-Y G1663. One of four I have used as markers.
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At least heading towards the core has increased the density and so far have scanned 15,102 WD systems on tour. Just wish there more to show after heading from Jaques but only noticeable finds are two WWs and one terra HMC.
Almost five months searching am beginning to worry I'm gonna draw a blank finding an ELW but that's the drawback of searching for the very rare. I sill have six months of 3306 to check and hope.
But I can't say I'm not trying. Checked on EDSM to see how many WD systems I had uploaded and for DC's there are 83,083 systems on there and I have first discovered 8,994 at this point which means 9.2% of all DC's are from me! The same sort of figures apply to the other types except DBZ and DBV where I have 17% and 16% of those- almost one in 5
And I'm running out of time to find one to put on Marx's ELW list.
Genuinely in awe of that level of dedication.
o7
I will still be doing a personal spreadsheet for personal ELWs in the same format.
If your talking about me taking over Marx's spreadsheet for the Forum.....well,errr,mmhh,errrr,mabye,errr,mmhhh.......... as I slowly back off out of the room....
So you are headed to WEPE systems now? Because I'm somewhere between Wepe and Hypoe systems now and if you travel near me, I would love to catch a glimpse of you and maybe take a space selfie... 
EDIT: Never mind, I just checked the map and I'm farther south than I thought... I'm still roughly 7000ly from the core...
EDIT: Never mind, I just checked the map and I'm farther south than I thought... I'm still roughly 7000ly from the core...
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Arrived at the first waypoint at Wepe and took a detour from the trip to meet up with Cmdr SleepyDelegate at a WD system at Zunao I had found a few months ago. A Class V orbiting within 1ls of the star was a great backdrop and within 40 jumps away, so off I headed up the galactic plane.
Only the second time I have met a fellow Cmdr in the void and, as the first time, seems a struggle for the game to find the only two players in the system. Logged out and in, got a blip on the radar only to disappear again... As I mainly play in open I do wonder how many times another person is in the same system only never to be seen in the game?
However, despite the game's limitations we finally met up and was great fun and some pics taken although far better pics and video from SleepyDelegate on his thread SleepyDelegate's chronicles- taking the DBX around the galaxy .
Then we flew to a landable HMC where a beginners mistake was made while trying to land and left 20% of my hull on the planets surface! But proper touch down was made and more fun on the surface....
All in all, a nice detour from the trip and many thanks to SleepyDelegate for the meet up and excellent pics, video and memories
And it wasn't like the detour was time wasted either. Fast tracked to destination filtering M stars, as every ELW I find this year will be an uncommon one, and on way found an ELW in a M star system. Then while checking WD systems while the Cmdr arrived found a close orbiting class IV, then my first ringed WW and the very next jump an ELW orbiting a secondary M star! It seems the jewels are more likely to be found above the galactic plane than below
But now I'm back on my trip to next waypoint- an O star at Systimbie and found what looks like a second "world of death" system- a landable Metal Rich with an elliptical orbit that takes the planet within 0.24ls of the WD
The original world of death had closest point at 0.06ls away so this doesn't come as close and it seems the orbit does not cross the streams but had no intention of trying to land on there with a depleted hull but if anyone want to try- be my guest.
Typical I find another world of death when I'm still trying to find my first world of life around a White Dwarf
Only the second time I have met a fellow Cmdr in the void and, as the first time, seems a struggle for the game to find the only two players in the system. Logged out and in, got a blip on the radar only to disappear again... As I mainly play in open I do wonder how many times another person is in the same system only never to be seen in the game?
However, despite the game's limitations we finally met up and was great fun and some pics taken although far better pics and video from SleepyDelegate on his thread SleepyDelegate's chronicles- taking the DBX around the galaxy .
Then we flew to a landable HMC where a beginners mistake was made while trying to land and left 20% of my hull on the planets surface! But proper touch down was made and more fun on the surface....
All in all, a nice detour from the trip and many thanks to SleepyDelegate for the meet up and excellent pics, video and memories
And it wasn't like the detour was time wasted either. Fast tracked to destination filtering M stars, as every ELW I find this year will be an uncommon one, and on way found an ELW in a M star system. Then while checking WD systems while the Cmdr arrived found a close orbiting class IV, then my first ringed WW and the very next jump an ELW orbiting a secondary M star! It seems the jewels are more likely to be found above the galactic plane than below
But now I'm back on my trip to next waypoint- an O star at Systimbie and found what looks like a second "world of death" system- a landable Metal Rich with an elliptical orbit that takes the planet within 0.24ls of the WD
The original world of death had closest point at 0.06ls away so this doesn't come as close and it seems the orbit does not cross the streams but had no intention of trying to land on there with a depleted hull but if anyone want to try- be my guest.
Typical I find another world of death when I'm still trying to find my first world of life around a White Dwarf
Thank you Commander, as I said, it was great pleasure to meet you, we had a blast!
I just want to mention, that for you and similarly for me, who do not meet other Commanders that often, it is sometimes difficult to remember what to do... For example, when we tried to land on a plant surface close to each other, we basically did not know how to do it without loosing each other... Then I remembered what @Crumley taught me, to turn on the Wingman beacon and only thanks to that we were able to locate each other...
It is also funny how to communicate... I have never used voice connection and I don't even know how to do that, so we messaged each other using the ships coms... But sometimes I forget to press enter and while I try to type my message, instead I start turning on and off different features, like deploying hard points etc... It can be quite funny, when lone travellers who are more comfortable alone in the void, meet...
Anyway, I think the video of you goofing around on the planet surface deserves to be here in your thread as well...
Thank you once again for the meet up and for showing me this wonderful system! BTW, I did mention it to you, but don't remember whether you visited it, but right next to this system, there is a giant MS Star with landable planets nearby. This picture is from that system, but I don't remember the name:
I just want to mention, that for you and similarly for me, who do not meet other Commanders that often, it is sometimes difficult to remember what to do... For example, when we tried to land on a plant surface close to each other, we basically did not know how to do it without loosing each other... Then I remembered what @Crumley taught me, to turn on the Wingman beacon and only thanks to that we were able to locate each other...
It is also funny how to communicate... I have never used voice connection and I don't even know how to do that, so we messaged each other using the ships coms... But sometimes I forget to press enter and while I try to type my message, instead I start turning on and off different features, like deploying hard points etc... It can be quite funny, when lone travellers who are more comfortable alone in the void, meet...
Anyway, I think the video of you goofing around on the planet surface deserves to be here in your thread as well...
Thank you once again for the meet up and for showing me this wonderful system! BTW, I did mention it to you, but don't remember whether you visited it, but right next to this system, there is a giant MS Star with landable planets nearby. This picture is from that system, but I don't remember the name:
When starting the first WD/ELW hunt three years ago there was no reported ELW orbiting White Dwarfs and not sure if they could exist in the game's stellar forge so was looking for the unique.
But at the time there were ELW finds orbiting binary White Dwarf and secondary stars. On Marx ELW list two were found By Allitnil and Guywano. I used these as bookmarks at the time to travel to. If I could not find one orbiting a solo WD then this other known type would be a success on the tour. Neither finds happen.
Now I know there are ELWs found in solo WD so that is the find to look for but I have hit the next best thing at long last-
Let me introduce AB3....
As the secondary star is a K star it does move the terraforming distance a bit further but to me is still a glorious long awaited sight
I will still go on for the year for the ELW orbiting a primary WD but at least I have one monkey off my back....... although the other one is still playing up!
But at the time there were ELW finds orbiting binary White Dwarf and secondary stars. On Marx ELW list two were found By Allitnil and Guywano. I used these as bookmarks at the time to travel to. If I could not find one orbiting a solo WD then this other known type would be a success on the tour. Neither finds happen.
Now I know there are ELWs found in solo WD so that is the find to look for but I have hit the next best thing at long last-
Let me introduce AB3....
As the secondary star is a K star it does move the terraforming distance a bit further but to me is still a glorious long awaited sight
I will still go on for the year for the ELW orbiting a primary WD but at least I have one monkey off my back....... although the other one is still playing up!