Well it's gonna be a vehicle for PvP in "Open" inside Powerplay. Of course we're talking about a Powerplay with different rules and mechanics. But we'll have people to play with/against and the opportunity of a real conflict. It's more than enough for me.
Powerplay If FD decided it could take the time to implement Open Only for Powerplay, do you think it should go to a public vote?
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Well it's gonna be a vehicle for PvP in "Open" inside Powerplay. Of course we're talking about a Powerplay with different rules and mechanics. But we'll have people to play with/against and the opportunity of a real conflict. It's more than enough for me.
As I see it Frontier has already decided that Open Only Powerplay is not going to happen making my opinion whether they decide or the players vote academic. Removing the equipment incentives from Powerplay might suggest moving forward with an Open Only version but might also make Powerplay very empty for a majority of players who will never bother to try it out.
Oh?
They did?
I am not ok with that.
I expect them to change their decision now.
Seriously... I think that would be a shortsighted decision if true.
A revised Open only Powerplay could become the main attraction for all kinds of multiplayer (PvP and coop) gameplay in ED.
If you mean they should add it as a third option to vote on, that would get messy.
Again, if you want to discuss the merits of making it open only, there are other threads for that. My question was a "what if" in relation to them saying they are willing to do it.
Again, i know i can't control what people post (damn it!), but it would be great if people focused on the topic rather than this becoming a clone of the other thread.
Well messy: if no options would reach the 50%+1 then the 2nd turn could be a ballot between the most voted possibilities. I still do not believe that this matter could go for a decisive vote, an orientative vote at most, because of the complexity of the matter.
Yes, i suppose they could say that the vote was only to get a feeling for the community's opinion, and final decision would be theirs, but i think that would be much worse than the two options i presented. Just imagine the salt if the vote went one way but FD decided they would go the other. The forums would explode (again
).Ok but it's a totally different proposal with its pros and cons. It should be considered too. It's a third way, and would benefit both people that want to play a competitive Powerplay and the ones who don't wanna be bothered in Open by the possible chaos that would happen in the border systems.Yes, i suppose they could say that the vote was only to get a feeling for the community's opinion, and final decision would be theirs, but i think that would be much worse than the two options i presented. Just imagine the salt if the vote went one way but FD decided they would go the other. The forums would explode (again
Again: that makes sense and should be considered, being a valid alternative, gameplay wise.
Either me or you were not understanding what he said. I think he is just offering a different way to break the tie, not a way that would give both sides what they want.
So do we have an ingame feature already that let's players vote on design decissions? If not, I think this voting idea is just something for our forumite egos. Why should some poeple on the forums decide which direction the game is taking????
I know, there could be announcements made in the launcher and in newsletters, as was done before. Still a vote could devide the playerbase even further. If Frontier just keeps developing theire game, we the players will adapt and play together. Better to blame Frontier for theire design-decissions then half of the player base. I think...
I know, there could be announcements made in the launcher and in newsletters, as was done before. Still a vote could devide the playerbase even further. If Frontier just keeps developing theire game, we the players will adapt and play together. Better to blame Frontier for theire design-decissions then half of the player base. I think...
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That's because you're looking for a head to head between open and pvt/solo. I'm looking for a suitable solution for Powerplay itself, and that's a good solution for both Powerplayers and people who are not interestd in it.
A vote similar to the ship transfer times one does make sense but to be honest my faith in Frontier to 'do it right' has faded a lot over the lifetime of Elite D. Powerplay should have been - and it should have been obvious it should have been - an open only feature right form the get go and designed with that in mind. Sadly things didn't turn out that way so the only option now as I see it is to tear down powerplay completely and start again with 'this is an open only feature' at the heart of that. But let's be honest here, Frontier aren't gonna do that, even if they did make it open only we would end up with a weird PVE token grinding, peer to peer, semi mash up similar to the mess we already have.
The ship, sadly, has sailed, Frontier missed their chance, the massive update is on the way and barring said update being a total revamp of powerplay we are just heading down another multicrew, CQC, squadrons rabbit hole. Frontier's 'if they use it we will improve it' motto is a load of horse manure, you ain't gonna get the numbers using it if it is a mess from the get go, simples.
The ship, sadly, has sailed, Frontier missed their chance, the massive update is on the way and barring said update being a total revamp of powerplay we are just heading down another multicrew, CQC, squadrons rabbit hole. Frontier's 'if they use it we will improve it' motto is a load of horse manure, you ain't gonna get the numbers using it if it is a mess from the get go, simples.
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Yeah I would be happy if FDEV put it to a vote
^^ This.
No vote needed, just make PPM and let people get back to playing the game how they want.
My option encompasses both the original idea of everyone is equal, because anyone wanting to PP will have to go into the PPM away from the main game (aka BGS) and it solves the complaint of "other modes" interfering in play.
So if it ever went to a vote, you can vote on;
OOPP
PPM
Stay the same.
Use a ranking vote system, where you rank your preferences (I know there is a proper name for that voting system, but CBA to look it up) and see what happens.
I don't believe the FPTP system on a topic this complicated would solve anything, it would just polarise the community even more. And let's be honest about it, Frontier has made clear that PvP isn't as popular as some people would have us believe (the Mark Alan quote on the WoI). So FPTP would favour the PvE crowd to vote in a way to stab at the PvP'ers even if it is to the detriment of PP.
Using a ranked-choice voting system (RCV (yup, ended up looking it up) System) for the ideas brought forward in the focused feedback (plus my suggestion) would allow the community as a whole to actually vote for what would improve PP and hopefully discourage people voting solely to undermine any player group.
Honestly, I don't mind.
But as Frontier seem incapable of actually making a decision, I think a vote would push them to actually do something with PP.
And even though I no longer do any PP, I still would like it to get fixed for those playing it (and for my eventual return to it
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Honestly Power Play isn't a huge deal right now. If anything BGS has to be made open only to save many a headache IMO
No vote. Waste of time.
Voting is never a waste of time, it shows how many people are actively interested and how many have given up.
It can paint quite the picture for the Dev team and help them decide how to further develop the game.
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