If someone from Fdev streams themselves unlocking all the Guardian tech. I will eat my eye patch.

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ED's a game movies are a different type of thing.

But take the new star wars films as another example, I expect pop-corn entertainment and so I enjoy them. People going to see them expecting the kids movie to be made for adults or not have girls in it come out furious. Realistic expectations win every time.

Yes, I see they are different when it ruins your argument. Are you just going to keep on trying to argue against reality? I've already presented the facts to show that you're incorrect. Then after pointing out your flawed argument, you backpeddal and say "but it doesn't count for that"

Of course it does. Your argument was if it makes more money, it's better game design. How is movie design so different? You offer no rebuttal either - just more silly argumentation. When pointing out the entire industry doesn't agree with you, you turn around and say "but they don't follow MY requirements"

That's fine but then don't keep trying to argue it's good game design - nobody believes you. You aren't convincing anyone that because you think it's great, we all should too.
 
Yes, I see they are different when it ruins your argument. Are you just going to keep on trying to argue against reality? I've already presented the facts to show that you're incorrect. Then after pointing out your flawed argument, you backpeddal and say "but it doesn't count for that"

Of course it does. Your argument was if it makes more money, it's better game design. How is movie design so different? You offer no rebuttal either - just more silly argumentation. When pointing out the entire industry doesn't agree with you, you turn around and say "but they don't follow MY requirements"

That's fine but then don't keep trying to argue it's good game design - nobody believes you. You aren't convincing anyone that because you think it's great, we all should too.

I couldn't care less what the industry are doing, I pick games based on gameplay not marketing, fan theorycrafting and wishful thinking. Here's the real clincher, I'm happy with that because my choices work for me.

Your opinions are not facts, any more than mine are.
 
Such dissapoint,much sadness.

More guardian content should have been a great addition,pity all we got to go with some of the great art was dreary,tired,repititious bottom of the barrell gameplay.

Beyond 3.1,the QoL update that never was...guarnteed to waste your time!
 
I knew I would not like the new movies, so, I saved my money.

JJ Abrams is no match for Lawrence Kasdan, or Ridley Scott.

I always go to the cinema for them, we used to see the Alien films as well until Ridley Scott done messed it up. Hopefully now he's fumbled it Neil Blomkamp will get a shot at a sequel to Aliens.
 
I've filtered out certain people who tend to "hog the spotlight", which cuts the size of threads like this in half, and even then this thread huge :eek:

I like that idea.

Why don't you censure the commanders dragging it off topic, it's pretty obvious who they are.

That seems a fair point, too.

Can the Community Team recommend a way of getting in contact with FDev PR, RE the topic, please?
 
I like that idea.

That seems a fair point, too.

Can the Community Team recommend a way of getting in contact with FDev PR, RE the topic, please?

Start a new thread with a warning in the OP that any dev bashing will be reported and an instruction to keep it civil.

Anything else is a complete waste of time.
 
I don't get why people get so hung up on what they imagine games might be, far easier to try the demo/judge gameplay vids then make an informed choice. But then I also dodged NMS and Star Citizen.


Me too. What's that got to do with anything?

Can the Community Team recommend a way of getting in contact with FDev PR, RE the topic, please?

Great question.
 
Still nothing heh? So much for the great communication. This seems to be the worst case of them ignoring their community.
 
Its actually not my job to direct this game but I am going to go ahead and give some real simple solutions anyways. All I intended here was to make them realize that there was something wrong. And they have to have by now. Unless they are being willfully ignorant. Which is entirely possible...

Option 1. Simply Cut the requirement by half at least. If they will continue to be in their isolated economy than cut even more so...(If anyone played through the unlocks even once you would have realized that it is way too much)

Option 2. Integrate Guardian Materials and data into the same economy as Raw Manufactured and Data. Its how y'all fixed engineering...I doubt y'all noticed but. I don't have complaints about Engineers anymore! (OK the exchange rates for G5 to G5 are extortionate...There I had to say it...)You are no longer LOCKED into a specific activity. You are free to acquire what you want how you want. You want to earn through fighting? You can! You want to earn through Mining? YOU CAN! It is how this open galaxy should be and always should have been.

And if you had done that originally? Maybe less of my daydreams would involve setting up intricate RNG based torture devices...
 
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Still nothing heh? So much for the great communication. This seems to be the worst case of them ignoring their community.

The only thing that will get any level of response or action is bad publicity, the kind that negatively affects shareholder stock. FD being a publicly traded Company, are in the business of making money. Consider the Kickstarter a capital investment, not in Elite Dangerous, but in FD. As it stands, Elite's potential is being utterly wasted on threadbare content stretched across an entire year. As a LEP holder, it's disappointing to see the direction being taken, the Three Monkeys mentality is indicative of the fact that direction is very much intentional. The design decisions are based on stretching an investment as far as possible, not engaging with the people who invested.
 
Option 1.
Option 2.

Haven't you missed the point of what a quest is? Certainly in Elite which is a game with no end game - and that's what's good about it (I don't think I'm the only one who thinks that). Cutting the quest in half, then you'll be complaining there's nothing to do (where's the content) and secondly, the human tech broker uses the regular economy. Having the guardian tech broker be exactly the same, is distinguished from human tech how?

Option 3. Double down. The more guardian tech puzzles you solve the more (and more and more deadly) the Thargoids that interdict you for them are. Having all the guardian tech unlocked should be at least as much of a challenge as reaching elite status imo.

This is a game community that chews through content fast so "nerf the content", I think I've probably heard it all now. Seriously don't do it if you don't want to do the puzzles but with luck you'd do a couple, do something else for bit .. come back and do a couple more, and still have an interest in Guardian tech 6 months from now. By which time the devs will have had chance to develop another mini game for you.
 
A thousand time all this.... AND If I have to spend 3+ hours scanning high wakes for just 3 lots of Datamined Wake Exceptions next time I want to upgrade my FSD range, I'll just outright quit the game.
 
Haven't you missed the point of what a quest is? Certainly in Elite which is a game with no end game - and that's what's good about it (I don't think I'm the only one who thinks that). Cutting the quest in half, then you'll be complaining there's nothing to do (where's the content) and secondly, the human tech broker uses the regular economy. Having the guardian tech broker be exactly the same, is distinguished from human tech how?

Option 3. Double down. The more guardian tech puzzles you solve the more (and more and more deadly) the Thargoids that interdict you for them are. Having all the guardian tech unlocked should be at least as much of a challenge as reaching elite status imo.

This is a game community that chews through content fast so "nerf the content", I think I've probably heard it all now. Seriously don't do it if you don't want to do the puzzles but with luck you'd do a couple, do something else for bit .. come back and do a couple more, and still have an interest in Guardian tech 6 months from now. By which time the devs will have had chance to develop another mini game for you.

No but I think you may have if you think a "Quest" is doing something like the guardian ruins. (In its current state)

"then you'll be complaining there's nothing to do."

No I will be killing Thargoids with a new level of efficiency. Which in case you forgot is the point of this all.

"Option 3. Double down. The more guardian tech puzzles you solve the more (and more and more deadly) the Thargoids that interdict you for them are. Having all the guardian tech unlocked should be at least as much of a challenge as reaching elite status imo."

You misunderstand the difference between "Challenge" and "Grind" Getting to Elite in combat is a challenge since there is challenge along the way. Getting all the guardian tech is a matter of rinse and repeat.

"This is a game community that chews through content fast so "nerf the content", I think I've probably heard it all now. Seriously don't do it if you don't want to do the puzzles but with luck you'd do a couple, do something else for bit .. come back and do a couple more, and still have an interest in Guardian tech 6 months from now. By which time the devs will have had chance to develop another mini game for you."

Very few people care about the "Minigame" content since it is all grind masked behind a new face. Its what is locked behind it that people care about. You seem to have missed that fact entirely.

People want to buy into the whole "The Thargoids are coming" narrative. And get geared up. All this is just in the way of people doing that.

I really just don't think you know what you are talking about so I do not want to see you try to argue with me until you post yourself having 1 or more pieces of Guardian tech at least.
 
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The only thing that will get any level of response or action is bad publicity, the kind that negatively affects shareholder stock. FD being a publicly traded Company, are in the business of making money. Consider the Kickstarter a capital investment, not in Elite Dangerous, but in FD. As it stands, Elite's potential is being utterly wasted on threadbare content stretched across an entire year. As a LEP holder, it's disappointing to see the direction being taken, the Three Monkeys mentality is indicative of the fact that direction is very much intentional. The design decisions are based on stretching an investment as far as possible, not engaging with the people who invested.

Not exactly Warren Buffet, are they? :)
 
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