I'm a bit concerned..

As I said, when groups registration opened, even the lowest tier we were told was "for anyone who wants to be part of the discussion." As anyone in the bottom tier knows, so far there's been almost no discussion. Whatever discussions are taking place I'm guessing is happening in the group forums, which only the top tier of groups have access to.

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I would allow the curator of any registered group access to the locked forums.

So far as I know, that is the case.

Are you experiencing something different?

Have you contacted the Community Manager for MFs?
 
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The only thing I always tought was a bit wrong when it comes to what FD does with player groups is that when they name a minor faction after a player group that minor faction gets giftet control over a system instantly, which can waste the effort other people might have put in other factions there to get them on top. Always tought they should actually do something and work for station and system control, and that giftet control is even more strange when it is a system with some significant behind it like the capitol of a power.

Other then that I think they are doing a good job when it comes to player groups.
 
Have you contacted the Community Manager for MFs?
I sent Brett a PM and never got a reply.
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if you look on the OP on the groups registration thread though, it indicates forum access only for Elite groups. Well, if that's the case, how can the lower groups be "part of the discussion" when that discussion is happening behind a locked door? I have no truck with the way groups/minor factions have been dealt with, save for this one point.
 
As I said, when groups registration opened, even the lowest tier we were told was "for anyone who wants to be part of the discussion." As anyone in the bottom tier knows, so far there's been almost no discussion. Whatever discussions are taking place I'm guessing is happening in the group forums, which only the top tier of groups have access to..

Well there is a Dangerous Groups forums that anyone here has access to. There is also an Elite Group Forum that is Private, this must be the one you are talking about not having access to. ED set out some definition somewhere that created 2 or 3 group level definitions, Elite being the Top Tier. Discussions in the Open Dangerous Groups are fairly lively, but my group is not Elite, so yeah I don't know what's going on behind those doors. A little unnerving, but so far have not really seen any dire consequences from it.

I suspect all the Elite Groups get free Orion Slave Girls on their ships and Hawaiian Hula Dancer Bobble heads.
 
There's three levels of forum access, in this particular software.

Read-only access to a forum, allowing you to read the threads there. Allows the user to be informed about things.
Reply-only access to a forum, allowing you to read the threads, and reply to existing threads. Allows the user to give some input.
Full access to a forum, allowing you to read threads, reply to existing threads, and make new ones. Allows the user to suggest new lines of discussion that may have been overlooked.

Frontier could probably make better use of those levels of forum access for their groups.
 
Well there is a Dangerous Groups forums that anyone here has access to. There is also an Elite Group Forum that is Private, this must be the one you are talking about not having access to. ED set out some definition somewhere that created 2 or 3 group level definitions, Elite being the Top Tier. Discussions in the Open Dangerous Groups are fairly lively, but my group is not Elite, so yeah I don't know what's going on behind those doors. A little unnerving, but so far have not really seen any dire consequences from it.

I suspect all the Elite Groups get free Orion Slave Girls on their ships and Hawaiian Hula Dancer Bobble heads.
Right. To be clear, I'm not talking about the regular groups forum, which is more or less a recruitment space. The "Elite" groups forum, which I refuse to refer to as the "Elite" groups forum, because at the risk of being politically correct sounds elitist, is what I mean. I feel this should be open to any and all who operate a registered group so that we can all join the discussion.
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Im not going to howl at the moon if this doesn't happen, I'm merely pointing this out as an example of the preferential treatment OP suggests is taking place.
 
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I suspect all the Elite Groups get free Orion Slave Girls on their ships and Hawaiian Hula Dancer Bobble heads.

Based on my discussions with my "Elite Group" leader, all he gets is headaches. No Orion Slave Girls. Anyone as grumpy as him DEFINITELY does not have Orion Slave Girls, or he got the ugly ones. And they can't get the cap open on the Aspirin bottle.

But I will bring up the issue with him about lesser groups not getting to participate, maybe he can shake the tree.
Or maybe they have decided that there is some level required for membership, in which case I will fume on your behalf, for all the good it does.
 
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Based on my discussions with my "Elite Group" leader, all he gets is headaches. No Orion Slave Girls. Anyone as grumpy as him DEFINITELY does not have Orion Slave Girls, or he got the ugly ones. And they can't get the cap open on the Aspirin bottle.

But I will bring up the issue with him about lesser groups not getting to participate, maybe he can shake the tree.
Or maybe they have decided that there is some level required for membership, in which case I will fume on your behalf, for all the good it does.

I dont expect much, but thank you.
 
Answer:
Dangerous Groups:
Sub 100
Elite:
100+
Triple Elite:
100+ and major contribution. I.E. Fuel Rats.
Elite and up have access

We qualify for Elite, and probably could ask for Triple Elite, but we don't want it just yet.
 
Doesn't bother me and in some way, it is normal that people highly involved in the game have more "access" than a player like me for instance.

Nevertheless, when I read the description I understand more that FD is pushing player CG because they are not capable or time to do proper ones (for instance, the actual CG). And I think it is sad.
And finally, if they are pushing so much for player CG, they should really include colonization, expansion,.... and make CG more "lively". In that case, for sure, more groups/players would be active.
 
P.S. What I posted is technically HEARSAY, so please take that into account. I am interpreting what my MF leader is telling me, so any miscommunications are exactly that, a case of Telephone. Or Thargoids. Or both.

Some more hearsay:

MF management tools are coming.
Possibly group specific Skins and/or Decals
Possibly group storage
Possibly group built, but NOT OWNED, assets. This might be a way to expand. Build a station/outpost/base, your MF faction is now active in that system. Not near enough info yet.
Possible group crafting, AKA "The Mechanics" that are mentioned as coming in the last Dev notes.

All hearsay, can't prove a thing, your mileage may vary, void where prohibited, sterile until opened.
 
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Doesn't bother me and in some way, it is normal that people highly involved in the game have more "access" than a player like me for instance.

Nevertheless, when I read the description I understand more that FD is pushing player CG because they are not capable or time to do proper ones (for instance, the actual CG). And I think it is sad.
And finally, if they are pushing so much for player CG, they should really include colonization, expansion,.... and make CG more "lively". In that case, for sure, more groups/players would be active.

There's a thread right now about where we should colonize next, as that's something FD wants to do again...

I know some of the folks in the Triple Elite club, mostly, as already stated, headaches, and those groups are REALLY active, constant large presence ingame, working the BGS, working PP, doing CGs, a lot of effort and work, no two ways about.

The Light Horse Brigade, the group I'm in, is new, we've applied to register and that's all I'm aware of, but I know what's involved with the Elite/Triple Elite stuff and I personally ain't interested in that stuff. If we get an ingame faction, great, I'll make Reaper set my tags(that's actually got to be done by the group leader and FD staff, it's not an automatic) so that I can show who I'm with and that'll be about the extent of it for me, other than making sure when I'm in the bubble that no prats are messing around our home system and helping out the groups we're allied with for that same reason. We joined in the The Code vs Truckers event last weekend, had a blast, and we'll probably join more little events like that because it's fun to socialize with others for some of us.

If you aren't into the groups and socializing, then how does any of this impact you? It doesn't, at all, so what's the problem?
 
P.S. What I posted is technically HEARSAY, so please take that into account. I am interpreting what my MF leader is telling me, so any miscommunications are exactly that, a case of Telephone. Or Thargoids. Or both.

Some more hearsay:

MF management tools are coming.
Possibly group specific Skins and/or Decals
Possibly group storage
Possibly group built, but NOT OWNED, assets. This might be a way to expand. Build a station/outpost/base, your MF faction is now active in that system. Not near enough info yet.
Possible group crafting, AKA "The Mechanics" that are mentioned as coming in the last Dev notes.

All hearsay, can't prove a thing, your mileage may vary, void where prohibited, sterile until opened.

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P.S. What I posted is technically HEARSAY, so please take that into account. I am interpreting what my MF leader is telling me, so any miscommunications are exactly that, a case of Telephone. Or Thargoids. Or both.

Some more hearsay:

MF management tools are coming.
Possibly group specific Skins and/or Decals
Possibly group storage
Possibly group built, but NOT OWNED, assets. This might be a way to expand. Build a station/outpost/base, your MF faction is now active in that system. Not near enough info yet.
Possible group crafting, AKA "The Mechanics" that are mentioned as coming in the last Dev notes.

All hearsay, can't prove a thing, your mileage may vary, void where prohibited, sterile until opened.
Those types of discussion I would have enjoyed being a part of. My worry is that small group nuances can get lost when your discussion only has a super-group point of view. There are a lot of smaller groups out there. A lot.

Mums the word.
 
Hmm. Sounds like they're developing the metagame so they don't have to develop the actual game. Pity. If that's a concern for them, they should open the game up to modding, so all those folks working on fleshing out the fantasy could work on something tangible instead.

Indeed. Where is the 'group' that represents the solo crowd, and what they want for the direction of the game? I even got through this post without mentioning the DDF... oh dammit!
 
Those types of discussion I would have enjoyed being a part of. My worry is that small group nuances can get lost when your discussion only has a super-group point of view. There are a lot of smaller groups out there. A lot.

Mums the word.

Well, you could imagine how big the group would be with 2 reps from every minor faction. There are over 7000 last I heard.

Honestly, they ought to have a forum for those smaller groups and then have them elect some representatives to the larger group to keep it manageable.
 
Well, you could imagine how big the group would be with 2 reps from every minor faction. There are over 7000 last I heard.

Honestly, they ought to have a forum for those smaller groups and then have them elect some representatives to the larger group to keep it manageable.
There can't be that many player-backed MF's, are there?
 
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