Hang on, you're telling me I am going to get free vanilla icecream? Fantastic, I love Icecream......but icecream with actual cream? Yech, that is just too much.
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Hang on, you're telling me I am going to get free vanilla icecream? Fantastic, I love Icecream......but icecream with actual cream? Yech, that is just too much.
The abandonment of the support for the Mac version of the game, I think, gives them the chance to finally switch to Horizon as the Baze Game next year. Here's hoping.
Oh, yes, I had forgotten about that ! Let's hope that is coming, to make more sense of what we discover down on the planet.
By the way, is Marsha Hicks, the new Engineer at Colonia, a relation ?
I'd be delighted if you could tell me how to get the 'free updates' without paying for Elite
You paid for two products that were delivered. You paid nothing for Beyond.
Simple.
I know it's a modern thing that we expect continued development for free, because I guess people think companies don't deserve to be paid for their work, but c'mon.
Yes I did, and I enjoyed it. Then Frontier broke it by releasing bug-infested updates that made the end product noticeable worse than what I originally paid for.
Quality has nothing to do with it. Work was performed by Frontier and they distributed the results of that work for free.
I generally respect your posts, but I disagree with you here.
Then I'm happy to agree to disagree.
Bedtime for me. Looking forward to seeing the responses from the team through tomorrow!
Indeed and yet ironically they were the two features that Frontier seemed most pleased about at FX17.
I call loot boxes
Which is why I suspect they were not pushed back due to technical issues, but due to them most likely fitting in better with next year's direction change.
I hope you never receive a disappointing meal in a restaurant. Unless you're a chef, of course, in which case you can prepare your own.
Correct. But you don't get any points for that because I said as much in the post you quoted. So more of a fact than a suspicion, really.
Still, thanks for the feedback.
I think if anyone is being disingenuous here it's Frontier Developments.
We were told 2 months ago, everything was as it should be, and we're being told it's not. And not only is it not, bu there is no clear roadmap for what is next.
Fleets were probably the most anticipated part of Q4!
Additionally, we were told that Beyond would contain some premium content. Everyone was waiting to see what that paid content would be. LEP owners were looking forward to getting premium content for their donations which started this Game. And what to they get? A big kick in the nether regions.
Telling your playerbase that everything is fine and then cancelling all premium content plus one of the most eagerly awaited updates, is just bizarre and to use your own terminology; Disingenuous. They are facts; You cannot dispute them.
Oh, yes, I had forgotten about that ! Let's hope that is coming, to make more sense of what we discover down on the planet.
By the way, is Marsha Hicks, the new Engineer at Colonia, a relation ?
Believe me, I asked myself that very same question......sadly both Carina & Midnight refuse to answer that question for me
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Well, personally I am glad that development is going on strong. I bought the LEP back in premium beta days and personally, I wasn't totting up in my head how many updates I was going to get for that. My financial planning isn't that good... probably why I am not elite in trade yet. I bought the LEP because I wanted to be able to play the game in full for the lifetime of its development. To be honest, i had forgotten about the 'premium content' bit of the Beyond series. Keep on keeping on Fdev. o7
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Tencent holdings account for 9% of the total Fdev shares.
Hardly a controlling interest that can sway the development of one game and besides why the hell would they.
So, if I understand this correctly:
- Base game owners: unaffected.
- Horizon owners: getting less* than they were promised at the start of the Beyond season, but considerably more than was originally part of the Horizons purchase.
- Lifetime pass owners: get exactly what they were going to get before, but some features are delayed.
Disappointing, but not the end of the world. As a LEP owner, I'm loving my 7(ish) years of 'lucky bag' updates.
(* This bit is a bit vague. Carriers and the Ice-world changes aren't included in Horizons or Beyond, but Zac seemed to state they won't be paid content. So perhaps they will be included in a free post-Beyond update? Just like the base game has had many updates even for players who never bought Horizons).
- Base game owners: unaffected.
- Horizon owners: getting less* than they were promised at the start of the Beyond season, but considerably more than was originally part of the Horizons purchase.
- Lifetime pass owners: get exactly what they were going to get before, but some features are delayed.
Disappointing, but not the end of the world. As a LEP owner, I'm loving my 7(ish) years of 'lucky bag' updates.
(* This bit is a bit vague. Carriers and the Ice-world changes aren't included in Horizons or Beyond, but Zac seemed to state they won't be paid content. So perhaps they will be included in a free post-Beyond update? Just like the base game has had many updates even for players who never bought Horizons).
Nah, actually Carriers could have provided a lot of real nice emergent gameplay opportunities for miners and explorers too. Maybe even more so than the combat crowd. Carriers were one of the few multiplayer features which could have been very useful to a wide variety of player styles.
Of course, these days- you have people who sue and start a social justice movement if one stubs their toe because they tripped walking into a grocery store. Or spills hot coffee on themselves. If it weren't so amusing, it would be sad.
No, I think most of it's due to the "stick it to the man" mentality, rather than seeing things a bit more realistically. Frontier has robbed no one of their life's savings.
You're not considering the emotional distress and psychological damage being caused to some CMDRs by FDev with this news. Exhibit #1:
And yet curiously... In the time I've been playing this game since I purchased it- I've experienced no "emotional stress or psychological damage" on the part of Frontier.
Have they changed priorities numerous times? Sure. Have they delayed features? Sure. Have they changed their minds about a few things? Sure.
Has it emotionally scarred me for life because they did these things? Absolutely not.