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Well, I hope for you and your fellow Mac enthusiasts that Aspyr will be able to port Elite Dangerous + DLC to Metal (If FDev lets them). Not because I'm a particular fan of Apple products (I'm not), but it will finally put an end to these "complain" threads by all the Mac users.
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It must be trying putting up with the mentions of macOS ooh, about once a month on average I'd guess.
 
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Buying an M1 Mac won't help ;)

While it seems like a huge milestone in the history of computing, even in our lifetimes.. I somehow doubt apple will be wielding it for the benefit of technology.

I expect excruciatingly defined and controlled performance curves that probably have their 5 year hardware + software ability levels precisely before the first one is even made.
 
While it seems like a huge milestone in the history of computing, even in our lifetimes.. I somehow doubt apple will be wielding it for the benefit of technology.

I expect excruciatingly defined and controlled performance curves that probably have their 5 year hardware + software ability levels precisely before the first one is even made.
Like any other computer brand/manufacturer,they do it for money usually but honestly the best part of Apple machines it's in the OS not the hardware. About the 5 year ability my old iMac27" form 2009 it's still up and running (with an SSD instead of the old HD) and doing the same stuff while all its Windows siblings from that age are already scrap metal.
 
Like any other computer brand/manufacturer,they do it for money usually but honestly the best part of Apple machines it's in the OS not the hardware. About the 5 year ability my old iMac27" form 2009 it's still up and running (with an SSD instead of the old HD) and doing the same stuff while all its Windows siblings from that age are already scrap metal.

Yeah i quite like apple computers. My first macbook was very first intel mbp (santa rosa) and i promptly deleted macos and put windows on it. Fast forward 15 years and i only have a windows machine as my games console. Love the hardware.

The software side hasn't been that inspiring for quite a while though, to me anyway. Could go on for days about it though so better stop.

On a more related note.. apple silicon i think will an actual doom for non iosish gaming. I somehow doubt supporting the apple silicon gpu is as simple as recompiling it.. developers are going to need to maintain 2 versions or support one or the other.. eso has already fallen off.

Unless weird things like pc's using mac like socs (im sure the large vendors would love to) start also happening.. i suspect its not going to be good.. as limited as it was even.
 
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WARNING: Current versions of Trainz run very poorly on the M1 chip.

However, our planned Q1 2021 update will include Metal and support for the M1 ARM-based chip and that will run better than the current game on current gen Mac hardware. How much better will depend on how much we can optimise things.

The thing is, if a tiny Australian developer (sorry N3V) can manage to port their niche train simulator with Metal and M1 support, what excuse (other than a purely commercial one) do other developers have?
 
The thing is, if a tiny Australian developer (sorry N3V) can manage to port their niche train simulator with Metal and M1 support, what excuse (other than a purely commercial one) do other developers have?
If other developers are doing so for a business a commercial excuse is probably all they need.
 
Microsoft too is shifting towards ARM based hardware, same as Apple. There will be changes.
It's also about the Metal vs DX APIs and heir respective features. The larger a project gets, the more difficult it becomes to maintain.
My current issue with my long-time favorite OS platform is, that I need Intel Widows both for work and my favorite couple of games.
And I was previously burnt by the PowerPC demise, to which Intel was the solution.
 
Yeah i quite like apple computers. My first macbook was very first intel mbp (santa rosa) and i promptly deleted macos and put windows on it. Fast forward 15 years and i only have a windows machine as my games console. Love the hardware.

The software side hasn't been that inspiring for quite a while though, to me anyway. Could go on for days about it though so better stop.

On a more related note.. apple silicon i think will an actual doom for non iosish gaming. I somehow doubt supporting the apple silicon gpu is as simple as recompiling it.. developers are going to need to maintain 2 versions or support one or the other.. eso has already fallen off.

Unless weird things like pc's using mac like socs (im sure the large vendors would love to) start also happening.. i suspect its not going to be good.. as limited as it was even.
I was not alking about "gaming computer", if you buy a Mac it's surely not for that reason ;) Gaming is just a side effect for any computer,but if that is your only reason,than I understand your point.As a side note I've assembled and maintained (for others of course) hundreds of Windows PCs along the years,I'm not an Apple fanboy be sure of that but one thing is for sure,OS's side there's no match,see you. (and this relates to any other UNIX derived OS,all of them are miles ahead of any Windows you can think of)
 
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