If you seriously want a refund why don't you contact the people who sold you the item you want a refund for? Putting that up on the game forum is just trolling so don't act all misunderstood.
In-game Advertising?
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If you seriously want a refund why don't you contact the people who sold you the item you want a refund for? Putting that up on the game forum is just trolling so don't act all misunderstood.
If they restrict it to the ads seen whilst docking and in the hangar, then perhaps it would be acceptable. Although I expect this form of revenue to be greatly reflected in the the cost of updates. If those updates are too high, then I'll start to have trouble with those adverts. FD should pass on the benefits they gain from having them to their players.
If they become too intrusive for players, then FD will have to rethink them, regardless of what was written in the eula. Players have abandoned games for lesser reasons than annoying adverts.
If they become too intrusive for players, then FD will have to rethink them, regardless of what was written in the eula. Players have abandoned games for lesser reasons than annoying adverts.
I've got the feeling if you don't buy a skin.
then you get a commercial on your ship
then you get a commercial on your ship
As others have said, I'm fine with in game advertising as long as it is immersive. Remember this is our own galaxy, full of mostly humans, 1000 years from now. When I picture that in real life I see advertising everywhere! I think this is a really good opportunity for Frontier to pioneer immersive advertising. They could show brand names and maybe do some art for what those companies would be like in that time period amongst advertising of in game companies and products. I would go so far as to say it would make the world more immersive while making Frontier some nice new development dollars.
What I don't want to see is "YOU'VE JUST WON AN IPAD!!!!! CLICK HERE TO LEAVE THIS VIDEO GAME YOU ARE PLAYING AND CLAIM YOUR PRIZE!!!!!!" or "HOT SINGLE LADIES IN YOUR AREA ARE WAITING TO CHAT!!!!!!!!".
Also if they go the in game advetising route I think also having microtransactions is a bit rich. Having microtransactions as an option along side everything being purchaseable in game is fine as I just wouldn't buy anything. Immersion is paramount for me in every game. Why the hell can't my character buy a paint job for his ship with all the credits he's earned!? Who is this god like entity that is changing his paint jobs from another dimension?
What I don't want to see is "YOU'VE JUST WON AN IPAD!!!!! CLICK HERE TO LEAVE THIS VIDEO GAME YOU ARE PLAYING AND CLAIM YOUR PRIZE!!!!!!" or "HOT SINGLE LADIES IN YOUR AREA ARE WAITING TO CHAT!!!!!!!!".
Also if they go the in game advetising route I think also having microtransactions is a bit rich. Having microtransactions as an option along side everything being purchaseable in game is fine as I just wouldn't buy anything. Immersion is paramount for me in every game. Why the hell can't my character buy a paint job for his ship with all the credits he's earned!? Who is this god like entity that is changing his paint jobs from another dimension?
I think this a fine way for Frontier to earn income.
As long as it's unobtrusive and fits in the game world.
In-game advertising can do much better in funding the game, rather than making a carnivore machine that must extract from it's players by micro-transactions of game assets that upsets the actual game play world.
Taking up 1/4-1/3 of my television screen while I am watching a show by some network advertising their show, like is becoming popularly obtrusive today, well then No Way.
It can be fun...In the Superbowl kind of fun commercial mentality.
A sign coming into a station can be fun, a bulletin board, etc.
If McDonald's want to say "Over 1.5 billion star systems served", than I am all for it (paying Frontier for every player ship that enters that station). If Pepsi wants to expose Coke execs by saying "In 3251 it was uncovered that Coke executives came here to this pirate station to drink 'Pepsi Alpha Red One' because they couldn't find the real thing in their system", then I'm all for it.
So many worse nefarious things could happen that would truly negatively affect the game to pay their staff, server and bandwith bills...cheapening the game for console success, subscriptions, microtransactions of game assets, Pay For Advantage, etc...
Fake advertising brings life to a game universe, making the billboard real, fun, is no big deal. As long as it is easy to also ignore.
As long as it's unobtrusive and fits in the game world.
In-game advertising can do much better in funding the game, rather than making a carnivore machine that must extract from it's players by micro-transactions of game assets that upsets the actual game play world.
Taking up 1/4-1/3 of my television screen while I am watching a show by some network advertising their show, like is becoming popularly obtrusive today, well then No Way.
It can be fun...In the Superbowl kind of fun commercial mentality.
A sign coming into a station can be fun, a bulletin board, etc.
If McDonald's want to say "Over 1.5 billion star systems served", than I am all for it (paying Frontier for every player ship that enters that station). If Pepsi wants to expose Coke execs by saying "In 3251 it was uncovered that Coke executives came here to this pirate station to drink 'Pepsi Alpha Red One' because they couldn't find the real thing in their system", then I'm all for it.
So many worse nefarious things could happen that would truly negatively affect the game to pay their staff, server and bandwith bills...cheapening the game for console success, subscriptions, microtransactions of game assets, Pay For Advantage, etc...
Fake advertising brings life to a game universe, making the billboard real, fun, is no big deal. As long as it is easy to also ignore.
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I fully agree.Given that BladeRunner had paid advertising in it, as long as it is not atmosphere breaking it is no big deal for me..
While I'm totally opposed to ads, if that was unavoidable, I'd at least expect these to not break immersion. But then, that would mean making ads that you don't notice, and this is where there's a problem if they expect people to buy their ads.
Still, that adds a lot to the plate: microtransactions, potentially selling ingame credits, then ads... what's next, DLC ships?
While it's nice to get money, it also decreases the value of the game, I hope Frontier is well aware of that, most people don't want to have to pay for extra features, and they'll simply ignore games with such business models.
I wouldn't want to be forced to play in singleplayer offline to avoid all that **** myself.
Thinking of games that did advertising wrong, the one that sprang to mind was Rebellion's JUDGE DREDD: DREDD Vs DEATH.
Now, I liked that game, but the thing that spoilt it was that it was obviously sponsored by Red Bull. The logo was everywhere in the game, and was noticable because it tried to tuck them in there discreetly. It was a good example of why a game should never have a single sponsor/advertiser.
Nowadays, you get companies offering "free games" on their websites for download which are absolutely rancid with their own logos and products, but only the gullable download them and they're an example of how bad games can get with advertising.
Now, I liked that game, but the thing that spoilt it was that it was obviously sponsored by Red Bull. The logo was everywhere in the game, and was noticable because it tried to tuck them in there discreetly. It was a good example of why a game should never have a single sponsor/advertiser.
Nowadays, you get companies offering "free games" on their websites for download which are absolutely rancid with their own logos and products, but only the gullable download them and they're an example of how bad games can get with advertising.
Indeed... I mean, there are advertising boards already in the game, just use them, I'd be fine with that.
I wonder what FD's pricing model will be with those billboards.
I suppose the ones in and around stations with crowded space and trade routes would sell at a premium to larger companies, because FD could easily show stats to them of all the players that are there at given times.
But I hope they allow smaller companies in there as well. It'd be quite funny to see, amongst all the blue-chip ads, an advert for someone selling blow-up sheep - LOL!
I suppose the ones in and around stations with crowded space and trade routes would sell at a premium to larger companies, because FD could easily show stats to them of all the players that are there at given times.
But I hope they allow smaller companies in there as well. It'd be quite funny to see, amongst all the blue-chip ads, an advert for someone selling blow-up sheep - LOL!
I'de go so far as to say that advertised items and services must be implemented in the universe seamlessly. Coca-cola would be available at the bars to drink, but perhaps in a "futuristic" bottle of some sorts. McDonalds would have a store on every street corner (kidding). Someone referred to having a Mercedes advertisement. That would only be break the immersion if there was no Mercedes vehicle to buy and if that was the only dealership advertised.
Of course advertisements of real items/services should be mixed in with items/services created by Frontier for the in-game universe.
I personally like the Idea of being able to trade advertised drinks and items to faraway stations to "spread their product". Forget the space trucks filled with and advertising coca-cola.
McDonalds wouldn't be tradeable though because McDonalds put enough food in every space station to last a millennium, 600 years ago. (We all know how long McDonalds food lasts in the open unchanged. Imagine the "technology" they will have developed nearly 500 years in the future.)
We're adults. We have enough self-control to not make impulse buys off of an advertisement in-game, right? RIGHT?
Of course advertisements of real items/services should be mixed in with items/services created by Frontier for the in-game universe.
I personally like the Idea of being able to trade advertised drinks and items to faraway stations to "spread their product". Forget the space trucks filled with and advertising coca-cola.
McDonalds wouldn't be tradeable though because McDonalds put enough food in every space station to last a millennium, 600 years ago. (We all know how long McDonalds food lasts in the open unchanged. Imagine the "technology" they will have developed nearly 500 years in the future.)
We're adults. We have enough self-control to not make impulse buys off of an advertisement in-game, right? RIGHT?
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I think any ads would need to be limited to logos and brands. A 'coke' logo is fine, but an ad for the latest Hyundai hatchback would be too out of place.
Perhaps something could be done around Sol though - maybe back in 2500 the moon was strip-mined for helium 3 in a pattern to resemble the Pepsi logo...
Perhaps something could be done around Sol though - maybe back in 2500 the moon was strip-mined for helium 3 in a pattern to resemble the Pepsi logo...
I think it's really odd how most of the posts in this thread seem to be 'OK' with this idea.
You really think a big COCA COLA sign in front of Eranin would be just fine? Microsoft? Apple? If we think some dip-**** soft drink is going to be around 1500 years from now, it's not quite the deep space frontier I thought I was in.
It's kind of off putting how positive the reaction is to this. Ads in a paid game?
You crazy.
You really think a big COCA COLA sign in front of Eranin would be just fine? Microsoft? Apple? If we think some dip-**** soft drink is going to be around 1500 years from now, it's not quite the deep space frontier I thought I was in.
It's kind of off putting how positive the reaction is to this. Ads in a paid game?
You crazy.
I like the idea to be honest .... it makes it feel more real, when I go down the road I get bombarded with adverts, seeing them in the game makes the game feel more real
again though, as long as its done as part of the game, ie advertising boards on the side of space stations and not popups and banners across your screen.
After all, someone posted a pic of Blade Runner with a coca-cola board ... I like that it adds atmosphere IMO ... but as cmdr Awesom says ... if its advertising a hyundai hatchback .. thats freaking
again though, as long as its done as part of the game, ie advertising boards on the side of space stations and not popups and banners across your screen.
After all, someone posted a pic of Blade Runner with a coca-cola board ... I like that it adds atmosphere IMO ... but as cmdr Awesom says ... if its advertising a hyundai hatchback .. thats freaking
Honestly? If it keeps the game going, I'd take ads over, say micro transactions any day...
There are ads in the game now, they do add to the atmosphere. You REALLY want a Coca-Cola ad in the game to bring your immersion up? I absolutely hate the idea. I see plenty of Coke ads as it is. Seeing more ads for the new Viper or a new Docking Computer, or even a new paint job for sale would be one thing... but Microsoft? Yeah... no thanks.
I'm really shocked. I also have a feeling, if implemented, some of your tunes will change really quick.
So... it has to be one or the other huh? I didn't realize that. I assumed if they make a great game, people will buy it and they'll get their revenues from the sales.
Crazy.
I wouldn't mind more in-game advertisements. As far as I'm concerned it'd seem entirely realistic, and give the game more of a 'Blade Runner' kind of feel. The ads shouldn't be indestructible though, and they should be placed where they make the most sense, i.e. in highly populated parts of the galaxy (perhaps especially in Federation territory).
I think this a fine way for Frontier to earn income.
As long as it's unobtrusive and fits in the game world.
In-game advertising can do much better in funding the game, rather than making a carnivore machine that must extract from it's players by micro-transactions of game assets that upsets the actual game play world.
Taking up 1/4-1/3 of my television screen while I am watching a show by some network advertising their show, like is becoming popularly obtrusive today, well then No Way.
It can be fun...In the Superbowl kind of fun commercial mentality.
A sign coming into a station can be fun, a bulletin board, etc.
If McDonald's want to say "Over 1.5 billion star systems served", than I am all for it (paying Frontier for every player ship that enters that station). If Pepsi wants to expose Coke execs by saying "In 3251 it was uncovered that Coke executives came here to this pirate station to drink 'Pepsi Alpha Red One' because they couldn't find the real thing in their system", then I'm all for it.
So many worse nefarious things could happen that would truly negatively affect the game to pay their staff, server and bandwith bills...cheapening the game for console success, subscriptions, microtransactions of game assets, Pay For Advantage, etc...
Fake advertising brings life to a game universe, making the billboard real, fun, is no big deal. As long as it is easy to also ignore.
The problem with this is I don't think people are considering what it really means for the game outside the obvious in yer face reminder of a world that I tend to play games (that I paid for) to try and forget.. If we have ads that some how fit into game, i.e. coca cola or virgin taxdoger galactic, then surely that organisation would become part of the game play.
And I don't know about you but I'm not itching to be hauling cans of coca cola about the place..