In game tools to find sell location

Too bad this is only relevant for Horizons/Legacy since those markers don't act correctly in Odyssey/Live. Also Fleet Carriers influence the max prices/marker intensity, even if you can't dock at them.
 
A 40 minute YT video?
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So, I did happen to know about the blue squares, but simply using a third party tool, I can immediately see (all in one place):
  1. The current highest price being paid for my space rocks anywhere in the bubble based on clearly reported times.
  2. Whether there is anywhere to mine those rocks in the system where they are being bought for the highest price.
  3. Additional information such as the demand and the pad size.
These are the primary concerns of every dedicated miner (or trader). This is why I use third party tools. It's the efficiency. Elite's native tools are just awful. To quote Backflip from Reddit, "The galaxy map is completely broken. It's clunky as ****, and resets the selection constantly. This is why Inara or EDDB exist."

Still, you did get me to watch right up until the big reveal, so well done. Also, you have a good voice for online content. It's calm and you're easy to understand. If someone new does want to limit themselves to in-game tools and didn't know about this map feature, this might indeed be beneficial to them, but the process involves a ton of additional (and unreliable) network building that people like me are intentionally trying to avoid.
 
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Well done,
but as i said - nothing new nor a breakthrough nor fast nor really useful (not only because in Live this is not working, it's also missing other critical information like demand or supply) if you actually have access to real-time data from Inara or EDDB

Might still be useful for cmdrs playing in Legacy that dont have access to realtime data (since the there are way less players/tools syncing data from) or for Live players if FDev actually decides to fix the freaking GalMap and for some obscure reason the commanders want to waste 30+ minutes in the galmap instead of 1 minute on Inara/eddb
 
Nicely done video. Great voice and explanations. I recommend reducing the rambling to cut down on the time.

Players such as myself fiddle-farted with these tools years ago and abandoned them for much better 3rd party tools. It wasn't worth the effort back then, and I wouldn't recommend these tools now.

Some Reasons Why:
  • If I'm stacking 10 source & return missions, INARA or EDDB is far superior. I want to follow a route that allows me to buy & complete missions in a somwhat efficient route. Not necessarily the best purchase rate, but the stations that have a good combination of stuff and sufficient quantities. The quantity is essential because the high payout missions are often commodities with difficult to find quantities. Usually I try to use stations I use over-and-over in a collection of 5-10 stns that I develop status with for good missions.
  • 3rd party tools don't shut down everytime I enter/exit supercruise. It is during travel that is the best time to be determining the travel route and which stns I need to visit next. And they remain visually "in place" the same as I left them regardless of whatever is happening in game (entering/exiting supercruise, landing/taking off, interdictions, etc). I can task swap or leave them open on a 2nd monitor. (maybe not helpful for VR players).
  • 3rd party tools have far better UI presentation, filters, and sorting.
 
Use galaxy map commodity filter to select the thing you want to sell, pick the blue(?) imports filter, pick a nearby system, step through the various markets in that system, plot a route to the one with the best price? (not sure I've done it in Odyssey so the UI may have changed a tad). As I recall it’s also worth when you get there looking at the suggested alternatives in the commodities screen (although iirc these can sometimes send you round in circles).

Did I get it right?
I'm claiming at least a consolation prize for getting it 90% right! I will confess I hadn't noticed that the blue diamonds were brighter if the price was better tho.
 
This isn't something I was aware of, I will check it out. Personally, I like checking out different systems and building up my own network anyway (which seems to be a requirement here). I do use 3rd party tools, but I also play Legacy more frequently than EDO.
 
but I also play Legacy more frequently than EDO.

then you are among the target audience :)
anyway, i stopped delving into legacy, how's the state with the market network - are tools that are supporting the legacy? (iirc Artie said Inara will not sync with legacy)


This isn't something I was aware of, I will check it out.

be aware that whatever carriers are there might skew things up (if they trade the interesting commodity)
however, lack of supply and demand will give you some troubles - but still, if nothing else is available...
 
To the OP: I think it's great you started a YT channel making videos on Elite Dangerous. Don't let anyone put you off, especially with comments like "It's already known". They may not be wrong, but that doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't make videos telling people about things you've learned in Elite, tips and tricks or anything else you want to share with the community. The more voices we have, the better the community will be.
 
Ok you lazy people.. I will give you a breack down of informations…



Platinum and Osmium hiding in the galaxy map commodody tool
3:30 - 4.56

What everybodi knows
7:25 - 8:15

The secret that nobody knows
8:50
ps: realy strange that only now people are coming out and say its not new… was it your secret? No YT video no answer… if you knew its ovviese that I was asking about the square…. NOBODY KNOWS!!! or at least its not of pubblic knolege

What you have to do
11:20 - 12:05

Trade
16:40

Why this could be better than Inara
18:55

Selling Gold and Silver at Top price
22:40

The only problem; Solution but I will see once I created a bigger market what will be the result
25:25

Strange thing.. Im probably whrong but Hawkes Gaming best trade rout doesnt seem that good after descovering the squares and triangle
29:25 - 31:15

Comparison side by side with Inara
33:05 -37:00

Conclusion
37:30

Bonus; Expeditions Mining Exploring
39:50



Once you created a big enoth market this seems realy good, plus if you are playing with friend this could be massive!!
Even the problem of Suply/Demand could be overlooked.. imagine the satisfaction of finding somthing good on your own… onestly.. if I have to relay only to 3rd party tools to tell me how to play the game I would NOT PLAY THIS GAME!!

I go nebula mining!!! Im not using application that tells me where to find hotspots…. I go and I find them my self!!!
 
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then you are among the target audience :)
anyway, i stopped delving into legacy, how's the state with the market network - are tools that are supporting the legacy? (iirc Artie said Inara will not sync with legacy)

Im not sure but a few days ago I whent to Inara’s location to sell platinum: 3 min old with 3k demand with 280k price, whent there and give me 200k… so is it out of sync?




To the OP: I think it's great you started a YT channel making videos on Elite Dangerous. Don't let anyone put you off, especially with comments like "It's already known". They may not be wrong, but that doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't make videos telling people about things you've learned in Elite, tips and tricks or anything else you want to share with the community. The more voices we have, the better the community will be.

Thank you realy kind
 
Why this could be better than Inara
18:55

Once you created a big enoth market this seems realy good, plus if you are playing with friend this could be massive!!
Sorry, I don't quite get the point you're making here (and in the video at 18:55). You talk about a group of people doing this, but how would you then share the information? (e.g. each member of the group visits the markets in different sectors of the bubble and builds up their own in-game trade map for that sector with the best places to sell given commodities now highlighted by the brighter blue triangle, how is that shareable/useful to the group as a whole?). Surely this is where things like Inara and eddb really excel because that is literally thousands and thousands of people sharing their trade data. I'm perhaps misunderstanding how the in-game stuff you're highlighting here can be better than that for a group of people?
 
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The secret that nobody knows
8:50
ps: realy strange that only now people are coming out and say its not new… was it your secret? No YT video no answer… if you knew its ovviese that I was asking about the square…. NOBODY KNOWS!!! or at least its not of pubblic knolege
Because it isn't new. I am pretty sure, it's also explained on some handbook, wiki... i don't know and i also don't remember if i found that a long time ago by myself or from another source.
Like explained by many others. the informations are hard to find, break your flow in gaming/flying and it's quite easier to just switch to the inara-window and get perfect information within seconds.
And even with ingame information... you fly to the first station, with hundred tons of your commodity... maybe thousands ls out there... just to find out, the price is outdated or you just have some hundred tons too much. Instead 280k, they offer you 85k for example. You do this a second time... the same... after the third station you will switch to a more reliable source and just sell your stuff.

That doesn't mean, you are not doing good! I totally agree the post from Alien and i appreciate your content, even if have just watched a few minutes (hell... 40min is waaaayyyy too long! :p). As far as i have seen you are really doing good in explaining and have a nice style. Also, like others said - it's important for 3.8 commanders, as they probably don't have access to information like 4.0.
So... i don't laugh at you and in no way i would ever say you are... whatever... so go on with that, great job commander! o7
 
Im not sure but a few days ago I whent to Inara’s location to sell platinum: 3 min old with 3k demand with 280k price, whent there and give me 200k… so is it out of sync?

Did you had more than 300t of platinum in your cargo hold?
if so that's the answer (demand price penalties kick in around 10% material in your cargo bay, iirc)
else, what was the demand when you got there? If someone was in the process of emptying their carrier at that station... 3k demand means nothing for a carrier with 15k tons of platinum.

anyway, you can definitely find stations on your own if you know how to look for stations in favorable states and with economies that do import the goods you want to sell.


To the OP: I think it's great you started a YT channel making videos on Elite Dangerous.

yes, that's commendable
what's not commendable is the attitude of i found something that nobody else found and the general tabloid / clickbait approach
just saying 🤷‍♂️

IF the OP just made the video, put it here with a shot summary, something like: how to use ingame tools in the Legacy game to find good sell prices... well, that would had served the OP way better (IMO ofc)
 
Sorry, I don't quite get the point you're making here (and in the video at 18:55). You talk about a group of people doing this, but how would you then share the information? (e.g. each member of the group visits the markets in different sectors of the bubble and builds up their own in-game trade map for that sector with the best places to sell given commodities now highlighted by the brighter blue triangle, how is that shareable/useful to the group as a whole?). Surely this is where things like Inara and eddb really excel because that is literally thousands and thousands of people sharing their trade data. I'm perhaps misunderstanding how the in-game stuff you're highlighting here can be better than that for a group of people?

When you play toghether you have head set… or a forum; so when you mapped different areas you just say… ”hey, look here I found Diamonds selling for 500k at ….. “ or whatever you’ve being mining or trading.
so it would not be just your “small“ area but a multitude of area’s that you can simply talk and share….

Because it isn't new. I am pretty sure, it's also explained on some handbook, wiki... i don't know and i also don't remember if i found that a long time ago by myself or from another source.
Like explained by many others. the informations are hard to find, break your flow in gaming/flying and it's quite easier to just switch to the inara-window and get perfect information within seconds.
And even with ingame information... you fly to the first station, with hundred tons of your commodity... maybe thousands ls out there... just to find out, the price is outdated or you just have some hundred tons too much. Instead 280k, they offer you 85k for example. You do this a second time... the same... after the third station you will switch to a more reliable source and just sell your stuff.

That doesn't mean, you are not doing good! I totally agree the post from Alien and i appreciate your content, even if have just watched a few minutes (hell... 40min is waaaayyyy too long! :p). As far as i have seen you are really doing good in explaining and have a nice style. Also, like others said - it's important for 3.8 commanders, as they probably don't have access to information like 4.0.
So... i don't laugh at you and in no way i would ever say you are... whatever... so go on with that, great job commander! o7

The fact is that I’ve loked and ask for years… nobody told me… and as you can see not everyone knew…

I will continue with this thow becouse for me there is no satisfaction in looking Inara info..
I have a book where I whrote the best prices of inaras market and updated it for months.. for me its all about mining and selling… DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY TIME I HAD TO WHAIT FOR DAYS BEFORE SOMEONE DISCOVERED A GOOD SELLING PLACE? or getting there and the price was whrong?

I will continue my mapping and will share information when I get it.. dont whait for it.. it will be a lomg time…

Did you had more than 300t of platinum in your cargo hold?
if so that's the answer (demand price penalties kick in around 10% material in your cargo bay, iirc)
else, what was the demand when you got there? If someone was in the process of emptying their carrier at that station... 3k demand means nothing for a carrier with 15k tons of platinum.

anyway, you can definitely find stations on your own if you know how to look for stations in favorable states and with economies that do import the goods you want to sell.

I know how to sell belive me… cant remember know the demand once I got there.. I think 3k and I had 180t


yes, that's commendable
what's not commendable is the attitude of i found something that nobody else found and the general tabloid / clickbait approach
just saying 🤷‍♂️

IF the OP just made the video, put it here with a shot summary, something like: how to use ingame tools in the Legacy game to find good sell prices... well, that would had served the OP way better (IMO ofc)


Well… sorry if Im exited about it… there is leteraly NO YT VIDEO about it.. all the info there is its not complete…
Once I’ve noticed it become so ovvies that before spending 9h to make a video in english that was not my objective once I created my channel I whanted to be sure that this thing wasnt of pubblic knolege.
And since making content for Elite is extrmely hard plus I barely get any views for all my hard work If I had somthing in my hands of vallue I dont whant to throw it away.

I came here and shared a info asking before “what do you know about in game tools” and I had the confirmation that the info gets only to ”A” point but NO ONE said nothing about the squares witch is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT if you whant to try and use ingame tools.
 
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