I agree that is why i think the big cats would be good DLC material for the sequels... of course you would need lion and tiger (and one leopard and imo the jaguar) in base game, but... siberian or sumatran tiger, snow leopard, amur leopard, cheetah, etc could work as DLC materials
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The only cats thay look weird are the male lion and the snow leopard (for some reason, the snow leopard zoopedia pic looks almost photoshoped to me)
TBH if the latest DLC is anything to go by as to how they will make packs from now on (although i think this next one is the last one imo) we will certainly get another zebra, giraffe or tiger before we get a pelican, duck, tree roo or coati.
Amur leopard doesn't look good... the face is the problem. And it never has. If you compare it to the remaster you could see the big difference it makes fixing the shape of the face and the eyes (same thing with the Palla's and sand cats). African leopard is beautiful and should remain a base game animal in the sequel. Jaguar could do some improvements but is ok. Tigers are too stocky for me, have almost no neck and they need a face lift as well, but not as terrible as base game lion. In particular the male. Females are fine tbh.
50/50 I mean that Central América Is refered as South America too
In defense, the only truly bad animal was the coyote, and even then it was requested by a few. Most of the animals in that pack were what many of us had been asking for, such as the ocelot, rhea, and a monkey.
The flamingo was mixed, as was the sheep. But, in defense of those, a lotta people wanted a 2nd flamingo and several wanted a warm climate sheep.
The bush dog was a weird surprise, buy I haven't heard anything negative about it overall
I've never heard of Central America being part of South America. Every global map shows it as part of North America, with the lowest country being Panamá
No... South America in all of it's definitions is the landmass south of the Panama canal.
You are mixing south america with latinamerica, which is not a geographical definition but a cultural one and it does include Central America and Mexico.
i mean is full of "low effort" clones. Sheep, coyote, rhea, flamingo, ocelot... even the saki to some extent. New skins for the most part but not much more than that. Rhea model and wings placement is an example of that. So another zebra, giraffe, lion is not such a stretch to expect for.
Yeah, but at what point does an animal stop being a clone? Howler would've been a clone, too. Every monkey we could get, apart from marmosets and tamarins, would be clones. The whole game is filled with clones. Every canid, every feline is a clone. Every antelope and deer is a clone. We're at a point where we won't get anything groundbreaking. I bet that even a coati would be a clone, too, straight off the raccoon or binturong
I reserve "clone" for if a species is of an already present genus.
To me a clone at this point is an animal that is just a different version from what we already have. All animals are based on existing rigs and animations but to me for example:
coyote = any canid, but mostly wolves
rhea = ostrich
flamingo = flamingo
sheep = sheep (mainly Dall's sheep)
ocelot = clouded leopard
and coati and mara or tamandua for instance, while would probably use existing rigs as base, are unique animals different from anything else we already have. Same with the bush dog. And the monkeys like howler and spider monkey are also very unique in their movements and vocalizations so would also be different enough to not feel like clones to me.
So in summary, America's pack is pretty heavy on clones and if it is an example of the type of packs will get in the future i think lion, zebra, giraffe (specially now that we kind of know we are getting asian elephant v2.0) are very very likely (unfortunally)
In my geography classes, they always considered the United States, Canada, and Mexico as North America, and all of Central America was always relegated to the South.
I think that's the issue with labeling things as clones. The line gets blurry.
I mean, everyone called the African leopard a clone, but was it really? Because it filled a tropical cat from Africa, which the lion doesn't fit. It even had new animations for it.
The whole clone talk just makes a big mess and confuses everything
Thank you!!!! Since I've been on this forum, it's been annoying (not to say stupid) to hear that one animal is a clone of another. I understand that they use the base of one to create a new one, but that does NOT make them a perfect copy. When said animals are precisely from that same order or family, it's as if they don't understand how biology works.
It doesn't mean a clone isn't usefull or that could fill a niche that is empty. I was the first one to eagerly ask for a rhea, and i have always wanted the ocelot because just like you said that niche of a small southamerican jungle cat needed to be filled as well and the rhea was an iconic species that had to be added (as well as the only remaining big ratite left) but they are still pretty much clones that don't demand much resources other than modeling and skinning. So in the end they are nothing unique, but useful.
I don't think another zebra/giraffe would be useful other than add variety tbh, but are also low effort clones they can use to fill the gaps in DLCs without spending a lot of resources and like you can see here there is also some demand for it (again, unfortunally).
TBF i have more issues with the other "unique" picks that take the place of animals that were more popular, requested and arguably more useful (sifaka, bush dog, quokka for things like coati or a NWM or tree kangaroo). Those animals had quite the workload put into them that could've been used to make the obvious choice that was ignored. And my gripe with the coyote is that it is the least interesting animal in the pack (and also the second canid in the same pack with another one that is much more fun and unique) and removing it and adding the coati alone would have elevated that pack from mid to really good (to me).
The chimps to me always came across as feeling very stylized aswell.
I dont think its really about the model per se, and its more that the chimpanzees all have light skin, even though they usually develope dark skin as adults.
Makes the come across way more stereotypical cartoon chimpanzee than they should.
just let him have it
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