Is E: D boosting PC sales?
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I would like to build a desktop that is powerful enough to support three 4k monitors for this game. For now I will have to play this on my more than capable ASUS gaming laptop.
Each to his own, I guess
. Already have my eyes on an AOC g2460Pg Monitor, GSYNC sounds pretty sweet. (about 450 Euros)Could have bought a decent car for all that cash, but in a car I can't play E: D ^^.
Funny. Acutally this is not about if you can afford something or not. If I had a million € I wouldn't buy a gaming PC for 2200€... it's just on principle. I can play any game there is on my 800€ rig for over three years in the future, maybe not maxed out, but usually at least on medium detail. And I wouldn't spend the additional 1400€ just to be able to set every setting to max. Imo your best choice is always the best value for the price.
But ah well... everybody can do with his/her money what he/she likes, no!?
Funny. Acutally this is not about if you can afford something or not. If I had a million € I wouldn't buy a gaming PC for 2200€... it's just on principle. I can play any game there is on my 800€ rig for over three years in the future, maybe not maxed out, but usually at least on medium detail. And I wouldn't spend the additional 1400€ just to be able to set every setting to max. Imo your best choice is always the best value for the price.
But ah well... everybody can do with his/her money what he/she likes, no!?
TBH normally I would agree however in my case I got a few g of inheritance and knowing that I would just waste it on weed and clothes I decided to buy SC, ED and a sweet gaming rig.
The one I had previously was a Dell Inspiron 545 that ran SC at a smooth 5 FPS lol
It nice to be able to play brand new games at max, an experience I have never had...You can Imagine my joy at seeing my first ED star !!
Funny. Acutally this is not about if you can afford something or not. If I had a million € I wouldn't buy a gaming PC for 2200€... it's just on principle. I can play any game there is on my 800€ rig for over three years in the future, maybe not maxed out, but usually at least on medium detail. And I wouldn't spend the additional 1400€ just to be able to set every setting to max. Imo your best choice is always the best value for the price.
But ah well... everybody can do with his/her money what he/she likes, no!?
i spent about £1000 on my PC when I build it in 2009. So yeah it's knocking on the doors of 5 years and mostly going strong!
But is it really a 5 year old PC?
It's on it's 2nd case for a start, the first was a wee bit rattly...
And 2nd PSU, noisy fan...
3rd CPU cooler, the stock intel just wasnt performing and my corsair H80 developed a noisy pump so back to a good air cooler.
RAM? Well I had 4x2GB to start with then switched to 2x4GB and added a second 2x4GB to max out my RAM capacity. That was nice.
Motherboard I got a new one because I actually damaged some SATA ports whilst cleaning it. Oops.
I started off with an HDD because SSDs were too pricey when I got it, I got fed up with slow load times so now I rock a 480GB SATA 600 SSD...on a SATA 300 motherboard...yeah.
And...
I'm also on my 3rd GPU! That's a GPU upgrade every 2 years. Because I've always done that. Going from (all nvidia) a 5800XT -> 7800GT -> 9800GT -> GTX 275 -> GTX560Ti -> GTX750Ti so this PC started with the 275.
I'm also on my 4th mouse, 4th keyboard and 3rd monitor (although only 2 of the monitors bought during the life of this PC I plan to get a new one in the near future).
So my 5 year old PC...the only original components are the CPU, storage HDD and DVD-RW.
Now...
Why did I run through that?
Because chances are if i'd spent more in the first place I probably wouldn't have had to change stuff so often.
Spend big initially, spend less over the lifetime of your PC!
Also different people have different needs. You can easily spend upwards of £2k
Alas I didnt and I never do so a constant upgrade cycle until the end of next year when it will be a full 100% new build.
Roll on 2015
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Almighty Bob
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If your intention was to make me flick back to my post, then look at the quoted one then realise, that I was correct then you have succeeded.did you get those links on the previous page?
If however you have confused a drunk and can explain your meaning to me I will man up and accept it
Yeah, it is boosting hardware and peripheral sales and it will continue to, just not in some Midas touch way. Ignore these guys going "oh but it won't be the catalyst for a $500 billion cash injection into the PC market and like totally Star Citizen is the real fuel for this particular fire" because that kind of thinking is absolutely mental, and you can't make any sense of it, and who wants to teach plebs Year 9 basic economics anyway?
My dad, who is 72, nearly blind and getting on in years despite his vim and vigour upgraded his PC last year when he bought into the ED Alpha. He has ready a $180 keyboard, a $300 HOTAS and his 27" monitor is 3D even though he's only got one eye. But he loves his space games, and without EVE and now ED he would have stopped playing years ago. Scratch that - without ED he would have stopped. EVE is carebear rubbish these days, Star Citizen is vapourware that's funding Chris Roberts' wierd secret addictions, and No Man's Sky is going to be some console-based garbage exclusive for at least 6 months after release. So, if you're a huge fan of science fiction, science and technology and aeronautics... and you have no depth perception and can't play games that need twitch reflexes, what else are you going to do? Do what we did in the 80s and 90s and play Elite or reasonable similes (looking at you, Privateer).
As for my own investment game and computer-wise, my current rig (purchased February 2012) is an i5 3570K, 16GB DDR3 2133MHz, 2GB GTX 660 Ti, a 128GB OCZ Vertex4 SSD and an appropriately feature and performance laden Asus Deluxe Z97 motherboard. Granted, I decided to get an upgrade before I'd purchased the ED Beta, but since playing it I've realised that a half measure or anything less than a serious upgrade would be a waste of my time and money in the long term.
Because what's the point if you can't have things look amazing? Regardless of what people (liars) say, having good graphics is a key and crucial aspect to enjoying games. And by that I mean modern games, the ones that we should have had in 2010 except the PS3 and Xbox 360 hamstrung us with their inadequacy. Christ, even Activision are realising they've become the lowest common denominator - they actually improved the engine on their latest rubbish COD. Awful pap, but it shows that the need for greater clarity and definition is finally reaching the hivemind. Sadly, only after the newest generation of consoles are out but at least we'll have DX11 as the par in a few years' instead of DX9 and all of its blandly textured limitations.
You might disagree. Good, because you're thinking about it.
Look, I could go on and on about this but I'll save you some reading and summarise:
Those who enjoy games, especially space games, will buy an upgrade for this game, be it in the form of a peripheral or a new system - or even just a better video card - simply because ED is the tip of the iceberg in terms of fidelity and lustre for the year 2015/2016, so even if you're just paying lip service to ED for your decision to upgrade, ED has by simply existing and advertising itself proven to be a great demonstration of available technology raised the bar and upped the ante.
To summarise my summary with a TL;DR:
Effectively, quality is appealing and also contagious, but so are lowered standards. If you like things of high quality you'll buy something to make your favourite game look and play better. Lowered standards and apathy are traits of those, who for want of a better term, have no stake in the issue and therefore are those whose opinions don't really count.
Or whatever? I don't really know. Yes.
What?
My dad, who is 72, nearly blind and getting on in years despite his vim and vigour upgraded his PC last year when he bought into the ED Alpha. He has ready a $180 keyboard, a $300 HOTAS and his 27" monitor is 3D even though he's only got one eye. But he loves his space games, and without EVE and now ED he would have stopped playing years ago. Scratch that - without ED he would have stopped. EVE is carebear rubbish these days, Star Citizen is vapourware that's funding Chris Roberts' wierd secret addictions, and No Man's Sky is going to be some console-based garbage exclusive for at least 6 months after release. So, if you're a huge fan of science fiction, science and technology and aeronautics... and you have no depth perception and can't play games that need twitch reflexes, what else are you going to do? Do what we did in the 80s and 90s and play Elite or reasonable similes (looking at you, Privateer).
As for my own investment game and computer-wise, my current rig (purchased February 2012) is an i5 3570K, 16GB DDR3 2133MHz, 2GB GTX 660 Ti, a 128GB OCZ Vertex4 SSD and an appropriately feature and performance laden Asus Deluxe Z97 motherboard. Granted, I decided to get an upgrade before I'd purchased the ED Beta, but since playing it I've realised that a half measure or anything less than a serious upgrade would be a waste of my time and money in the long term.
Because what's the point if you can't have things look amazing? Regardless of what people (liars) say, having good graphics is a key and crucial aspect to enjoying games. And by that I mean modern games, the ones that we should have had in 2010 except the PS3 and Xbox 360 hamstrung us with their inadequacy. Christ, even Activision are realising they've become the lowest common denominator - they actually improved the engine on their latest rubbish COD. Awful pap, but it shows that the need for greater clarity and definition is finally reaching the hivemind. Sadly, only after the newest generation of consoles are out but at least we'll have DX11 as the par in a few years' instead of DX9 and all of its blandly textured limitations.
You might disagree. Good, because you're thinking about it.
Look, I could go on and on about this but I'll save you some reading and summarise:
Those who enjoy games, especially space games, will buy an upgrade for this game, be it in the form of a peripheral or a new system - or even just a better video card - simply because ED is the tip of the iceberg in terms of fidelity and lustre for the year 2015/2016, so even if you're just paying lip service to ED for your decision to upgrade, ED has by simply existing and advertising itself proven to be a great demonstration of available technology raised the bar and upped the ante.
To summarise my summary with a TL;DR:
Effectively, quality is appealing and also contagious, but so are lowered standards. If you like things of high quality you'll buy something to make your favourite game look and play better. Lowered standards and apathy are traits of those, who for want of a better term, have no stake in the issue and therefore are those whose opinions don't really count.
Or whatever? I don't really know. Yes.
What?
If I am looking under my desk, I would say "YES"
- MSI GeForce 970 GTX
- Asus X 99-A
- 16 GByte DDR4
- I7-5820K
- ...
Don't tell it my wife
12 threads is overkill i think
But can I have your GPU? Please?
12 threads is overkill i think
But can I have your GPU? Please?
Simply....no sorry
Oh God give me strength...Sennheiser PC 363D USB
Argh.... I am lost... doomed...
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Yo Bob, you should check out the SteelSeries mechanical keyboards. More economical than Corsairs for what you get, and basically mechanical keyboard = mechanical keyboard. Comes down to how it feels on your hands, how the spacing is around the key blocks, and what variety of LED if any it sports. Think the best one they make is only like $130 AUD, so... about 70 GBP give or take. Very nice.
Funny. Acutally this is not about if you can afford something or not. If I had a million € I wouldn't buy a gaming PC for 2200€... it's just on principle. I can play any game there is on my 800€ rig for over three years in the future, maybe not maxed out, but usually at least on medium detail. And I wouldn't spend the additional 1400€ just to be able to set every setting to max. Imo your best choice is always the best value for the price.
But ah well... everybody can do with his/her money what he/she likes, no!?
Only a fool buys top of the line computer hardware, $1600 Euros would sort you out rather exceptionally. Also, see my post above about low standards.
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Simply....no sorry
/me goes back to making a wishlist...
MSI X99 SLI Plus
i7-5930K
32GB DDR4
SLI MSI GTX 980
Fractal Design Define R5 case (err...it's getting announced this week, trust me)
Corsair AX760i PSU + Red cable set
Pioner Blu Ray Writer
512GB Samsung 850 Pro SSD + 1TB Samsung 850 Pro SSD (so i can get rid of those pesky drive cages)
3x these monitors
Soundblaster ZXR sound card
Sennheiser HD600 headphones
...
anybody got 6 grand spare?
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Depends if people want seperate media/volume keys and the easy programmable backlighting on the K70
Definitely agree with those saying its boosting peripheral sales.
I have friends that have never had an interest in owning a joystick nor know what the heck HOTAS means, now converted and wont shut up about their configurations.
I also am interested to see which came first:
-The player interested in Elite, discovering the occulus as a wanted peripheral.
or
-The player watching Occulus demo's that involved Elite and discovering the game through that. (That is how I discovered this game, I virtually forgot I was excited for the O-R and started just looking up ED)
I have heard talk from friends about upgrading their PC for this game as well, but I hear that with every game. So I would leave that to a stalemate; gamers will upgrade their pc forever as per usual.
Personally, I already owned my HOTAS, so I haven't yet been the guy to drop $350 to play this game (beta+joystick) but I will. If I lose patience with waiting for commercial grade Occulus I may get TrackIR as an alternative.
I have friends that have never had an interest in owning a joystick nor know what the heck HOTAS means, now converted and wont shut up about their configurations.
I also am interested to see which came first:
-The player interested in Elite, discovering the occulus as a wanted peripheral.
or
-The player watching Occulus demo's that involved Elite and discovering the game through that. (That is how I discovered this game, I virtually forgot I was excited for the O-R and started just looking up ED)
I have heard talk from friends about upgrading their PC for this game as well, but I hear that with every game. So I would leave that to a stalemate; gamers will upgrade their pc forever as per usual.
Personally, I already owned my HOTAS, so I haven't yet been the guy to drop $350 to play this game (beta+joystick) but I will. If I lose patience with waiting for commercial grade Occulus I may get TrackIR as an alternative.
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/me goes back to making a wishlist...
MSI X99 SLI Plus
i7-5930K
32GB DDR4
SLI MSI GTX 980
Fractal Design Define R5 case (err...it's getting announced this week, trust me)
Corsair AX760i PSU + Red cable set
Pioner Blu Ray Writer
512GB Samsung 850 Pro SSD + 1TB Samsung 850 Pro SSD (so i can get rid of those pesky drive cages)
3x these monitors
Soundblaster ZXR sound card
Sennheiser HD600 headphones
...
anybody got 6 grand spare?
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Depends if people want seperate media/volume keys and the easy programmable backlighting on the K70
Well, I see... your soul is lost like mine ...
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/me goes back to making a wishlist...
MSI X99 SLI Plus
i7-5930K
32GB DDR4
SLI MSI GTX 980
Fractal Design Define R5 case (err...it's getting announced this week, trust me)
Corsair AX760i PSU + Red cable set
Pioner Blu Ray Writer
512GB Samsung 850 Pro SSD + 1TB Samsung 850 Pro SSD (so i can get rid of those pesky drive cages)
3x these monitors
Soundblaster ZXR sound card
Sennheiser HD600 headphones
...
anybody got 6 grand spare?
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Depends if people want seperate media/volume keys and the easy programmable backlighting on the K70
Have you heard of Roccat Power-Grid? Makes programmable keys on a keyboard worse than redundant.
Simply....no sorry
Oh God give me strength...Sennheiser PC 363D USB
Argh.... I am lost... doomed...
Yes, the felt lining will perform exceptionally when it comes to absorbing stains, earwax and the wont of a decent stereo system.
on the K70 you just press a button and press a key if you want the backlighting on or off on that key
As Aleksander Orlov says, simples.
Spectre Alpha
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True, this...but has done more to tarnish their own name, there are still a lot of great PC game makers out there, like Squad with their Kerbal Space Program. Awesome game.
As for Elite boosting PC sales, it is far to small to matter in the global economy, Things like Intel's new x99 chipset and the new processors, as well as nVidia's new 980 GPU are moving the PC sales in the world currently.
Almighty Bob
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woops thanks buddy I need an IFF on the game and forum