ED project has that, or FD as a whole? I can easily find out how much FD have, but not how much is earmarked for ED (beyond the initial KS funding, of which we don't know how much is left).
Is this a rip off? Or is this Frontier first encounters all over again?
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ED project has that, or FD as a whole? I can easily find out how much FD have, but not how much is earmarked for ED (beyond the initial KS funding, of which we don't know how much is left).
doh! back again
come play alpha with me and you figure out yourself why estimated dates have slipped* ... it was a crashfest (well for me at first anyway) and has been improving by the day.
do you need to do the debugging?!
or a list of the most common crashes?!
there are things that need improving before the next phase will be rolled out. like stability/connectivity for one. and as we have no idea what kind of quality criteria FDEV have set, we have no idea when it will be ready. and it would not make sense for FDEV to share minute detail of the testing with everyone. they already share the full alpha virtually by not enforcing NDA...
it is enough, let go
*hint: alpha testing 2.1 is not ready/done yet. and if there were a significant delay they would have to report via AIM/FDEV anyway.
Hi jedt.
Again, just my 2ps worth, but in my experience happy backers/customers/stakeholders etc result from communication that:
(A) Sets up an expectation - "It's Friday, must be nearly time for my weekly from FD... can't wait!"
-and then-
(B) Meets that expectation - "There it is in my inbox - look at that concept art... cooooool!" etc.
The problem begins when you set up an expectation but then start to not deliver for whatever reason. People begin to feel excluded or make up "conspiracy theories" - it hurts the relationship between a brand and its customers and people feel like an implicit code of trust has been broken.
All very melodramatic, I know! And not totally rational, if truth be told.
But that's just what people are like.
Also, if FD want to grow/leverage their community base, they do need to be a bit more forthcoming - you don't call your friends only when you've got something earth-shattering to say, sometimes it's just good to chat! And the more you chat the better friends you become. If they just want to disappear and only reconnect when there's something massive to say, that's fine - but there's a penalty to that approach in terms of customer involvement/advocacy that they need to be aware of.
It'd be very easy for FD to address these issues - it wouldn't be more than their currently doing - just with a bit more structure and regularity to it. I'm confident they will do so once the early, tricky stages of Alpha are nailed down.
FDEV have publicly stated that all ks & pre-order goes into ED & ED technical development, a portion of that (400k?!) has been allocated in the last 6 months. rest to hit their bottom line for the year end
FD got several million out of the IPO, but they also got additional private investment in E: D specifically. The details that were released were sketchy as I recall, but the upshot was that it gave them more freedom to make E: D a better game... even in so far as not relying 100% on good initial retail sales to begin work on expansions like EVA and planetary landing.
No. But then again, with that tone, you weren't really asking a question anyway...
http://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?p=100181#post100181
Thanks to Juniper for digging that one up. There's another post which I can't seem to find right now but suffice to say, FSD came up in official statements as being a complex addition. The post I mean talked about the fact that people wanted to not be limited to a few locations in a system, but wanted to really travel around freely, kinda like the old stardreamer device, but in a multiplayer-compatible way. Basically the statement was that FSD was a time consuming addition that wasn't initially planned, but that they felt was neccessary to really make this an Elite game.
Could this and its relation to the planned release date have been communicated in a more clear and obvious way? Perhaps.
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You're totally wrongYes, I have read the thread, & it seems to me that people are complaining about the lack of communication because of impatience caused by slipping dates, hence my comments.
I may be totally wrong, of course. It wouldn't be the first time.
At least where I'm concerned at any rate. Can't speak for anyone else. I'm loving the alpha and I'm not in any rush for the finished game. But I'd still like improved comms from FD Squicker
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doh! back again
come play alpha with me and you figure out yourself why estimated dates have slipped* ... it was a crashfest (well for me at first anyway)
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Haha, I'd love to but I am not an alpha backer, I backed to Founder on the basis I knew I simply would not have enough time to devote to alpha.
But the amount of time I have spent in this thread I think I probably might have been able to play alpha after all...;-)
You're totally wrong
I agree with noodle.
Thank you. The cheque's in the post. And I promise not to release those compromising photographs. You know the ones... where you're walking around your hangar bay in Star Citizen.
You're totally wrong
Apparently neither yourself nor JeffRyan have read the thread - NOWHERE have I complained about the alpha.
You expect me to read a 36 page thread?! Are you insane?!?Apparently neither yourself nor JeffRyan have read the thread - NOWHERE have I complained about the alpha.
Err... I have. I meant love the alpha, not in a rush, would like improved comms if possible. (But not too bummed at this point like I was in mid-january). As I've said over and over and over.
Yeah... I could never quite give money to Chris despite looking at the packages various times.
Thank you. The cheque's in the post. And I promise not to release those compromising photographs. You know the ones... where you're walking around your hangar bay in Star Citizen.
Yeah... I could never quite give money to Chris despite looking at the packages various times.
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You expect me to read a 36 page thread?! Are you insane?!?
To be fair, no one needs to read the whole thing, they can read say 2 pages and put them into a loop and get the vibe of the whole thread:
"I want better quality comms"
"You don't need it, leave FD alone"
<Insert random tetchy comment>
Repeat to fade...
I must be sick to still be here myself!
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I have. I was being facetious
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Sigh !! Could be worse....If the game hade been called "Elite Nukem Forever"
It's time for weekly updates.
Package was probably a poor choice of words in this context....Yeah... I could never quite give money to Chris despite looking at the packages various times.Thank you. The cheque's in the post. And I promise not to release those compromising photographs. You know the ones... where you're walking around your hangar bay in Star Citizen.