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Is Update 10 bad news for consoles?
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That's a bit of a leap you've made there.
I learn rapidly, usually by example.
No, we might do some educated guesses.
The number of gamepass subscribers is more or less public since MS likes to brag about it and the list of XB games included in the GamePass is also public
No suppositions involved here.
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Me on the other hand, I've barely noticed any improvements while playing for a few hours last night. It's playable for me, sure, but frames still vary wildly, they still drop below 60fps on-foot more often than not (unless I'm in a barren, featureless environment or look at the floor/sky, sometimes not even that), well into the low 30s.
To me, the patch felt more like a hotfix, which largely addressed a small number of recently added bugs, and as per established FDev tradition introduced a few new ones, that we'll probably have to endure until the next patch. They also updated some of the paintjobs, but as with anything they do these days, it's not up to a satisfactory level, but yeah they made some changes alright.
Based on it focusing on performance I have to say I expected more, certainly more than framerate increases in the low single digits I barely notice (if there at all) in certain areas (namely settlements), but of course based on past patches prepared for disappointment all the same. It also feels like we're reaching a 'ceiling' in terms of optimisation as each and every update had minor improvements at best, at least for me. I'm playing the game and still enjoying it mostly, but I'm growing tired of this Groundhog Day situation.
These last few days/weeks have been kinda weird. Total radio silence, then a surprise patch announcement, I thought 'hey maybe they let actions speak instead now', but nope. Just more of the same, just less communication like back in ye olde days again.
To console players I will just say this - if Frontier doesn't make that decision for you by making a clear announcement, you'll have to draw your own conclusions yourself instead, and you have three options really, 1) either read between the lines of silence/non-statements and accept a console version is either not coming at all, or much much delayed, and prepared to wait it out depending on your patience levels - 2) get EDO on PC if you're desperate enough to play it (imo it's not worth going the extra mile for this DLC, even if it's not as bad as it was last year) or 3) just keep playing Horizons like a single player game that won't get further DLCs, in lieu of that just play other games instead (that's probably where I'd end up personally).
Once GTA VI drops, who cares? 
Or StarField for the Xbox/PC crowd (sorry PS!). Fingers crossed it's actually good!Once GTA VI drops, who cares?
I'm not having any hopes for Starfield, so it may be good.
However, i did not have any hopes for the latest Fallout either, and well... we know how that turned out.
It won't start generating sales. This is an older game now in a category that's not popular anymore. Gamers are damned picky about their games, as they should be. Look at the dismal sales of Battlefield 2042 which could have been a blockbuster but for the terrible direction the devs took the game and the bugs that got past any testing, and gamers want no part of it.
And that game is in one of the most popular game categories. Good FPS games sell well.
Spaceship-flying games do not anymore. They don't have mass appeal. And because Odyssey is still suffering from performance issues it hurts it even more.
That's just my opinion
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No changed what I said/asked around to be about something else.
But yes they have previously been affecting staff, and no Frontier didn't shut them down
I didn't avoid the question. My answer hadn't changed. I showed you what my answer was.Strange... same way that Frontier replies (many times) to the customers.
How to avoid questions 101.
If you can't see the irony of you last comment to me, then there is no hope for Frontier.
Sure, but people would still ask how long it's going to take Frontier to get there. And people will still get differing performance on machines, as I previously said.
3 platforms sell more than 1. Bit of a skewed comparison. Though Elite on a Switch would be cool.
We know that they said they were.
That is all we know. You assuming that a delay means they've decided to drop the game on console is one that only can come from yourself. If you want to believe it's been canned then that's up to you. I choose to believe what I was last told.
As a reminder, Benzies, Houser, and everyone else who was the soul of that series is gone and we're in the age of ESG "investing". It's a game people will wish was never released.Once GTA VI drops, who cares?
Of course there is hope for Frontier, Nothing to do with that.
'Consoles' is the major discussion here.
They (and you) won't define console, because they can't commit the release for ALL consoles, so it's easy say: Committed to console.
My opinion: They'll release only of the new gen.
It won't start generating sales. This is an older game now in a category that's not popular anymore. Gamers are damned picky about their games, as they should be. Look at the dismal sales of Battlefield 2042 which could have been a blockbuster but for the terrible direction the devs took the game and the bugs that got past any testing, and gamers want no part of it.
And that game is in one of the most popular game categories. Good FPS games sell well.
Spaceship-flying games do not anymore. They don't have mass appeal. And because Odyssey is still suffering from performance issues it hurts it even more.
That's just my opinion
Key word in there being "Good" in front of FPS I think. No reason it shouldn't be though but as someone else mentioned, perhaps the design needs iterating upon.
I'd counter your point about spaceship-flying by saying that flight simulation is quite popular on XBox
How many among the "PC and Xbox Game Pass" are PC only do you suppose?
That's the point isn't it. The "details and dates change" while they "concentrate on the core experience" is so vague that 7 months on, it no longer holds any meaning.
There's no hope for that one I'm afraid.
Yea, but consoles is a side goal for Elite since well, Consoles version failed raise to the level of popularity of the PC version
In Hindsight,
- Elite was released on PC, 10 months later was released on XB.
- Horizons was released on PC, 6 months later on XB, 18 months later on PS (Elite+Horizons)
- EDO was released on PC, and now 8 months later there is still no release date for Consoles.
I didn't change what you said. You inferred that a toxic forum could make Frontier employees wellbeing suffer so I asked it that was the case.
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