News Issue with extremely inflated mission rewards!

[Ben Sevil]

I hope when the rollbacks happen, it's not just totals of 30M and above are looked at, but the time period in which the credits was earned. e.g a 100M+increase in assets or credits over a 12 hour period is pretty suspicious.

So check assets/balance pre 2.4, check again 12 hours later and if it's over a threshold reverse the credit gain and remove any assets obtained in between times

It is possible to earn something like 14-18mn credits per hour doing cargo runs in an Imperial Cutter, so 12*14=168mn is entirely possible and legal (though you'll be goggle-eyed and bored to death by the end).

Of course, if you were doing that in a Cobra Mk III....

 

[Lyra]

Just to get it clear

I have accepted the ruin mission a few minutes ago. It has a 100mil bonus.
But if i make all scans the payout will be 201mil.
it was some time ago the same.
Will the 101mil scans + 100 bonus work?

 

[GONNA BURN U]

Curious

So i did alot of passenger and adventure missions with short lightyear range but extremely long LS range so it still took me a while to get to the destinations with payouts ranging up to 20+ mil. I saw that someone posted that because of the extreme LS range over 300 k that u could not jump to and just had to supercruise for up to and sometimes exceeding 15 to 30 minutes that the money made on those missions was legit. im still wondering if this is the case and am waiting for an official response as i make most of my money ferrying people.

edit> i forgot to mention the absurd amount of interdictions i was getting 2 out of 3 missions it was 3 to 5 each run before i could hit the station

 

[-=DruiD=-]

Should anyone already have a mission of this payout value accepted but not handed in yet, the 30 million cap will be awarded on completion. We will be investigating any extremely inflated mission rewards that have been redeemed and action may be taken to reverse the effects of this bug.

So .. Legit Ram Tah 111 Mill hand in fixed yet?

 

[fitzsteve]

So i did alot of passenger and adventure missions with short lightyear range but extremely long LS range so it still took me a while to get to the destinations with payouts ranging up to 20+ mil. I saw that someone posted that because of the extreme LS range over 300 k that u could not jump to and just had to supercruise for up to and sometimes exceeding 15 to 30 minutes that the money made on those missions was legit. im still wondering if this is the case and am waiting for an official response as i make most of my money ferrying people.

edit> i forgot to mention the absurd amount of interdictions i was getting 2 out of 3 missions it was 3 to 5 each run before i could hit the station

I have asked for the same clarity in the official thread:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/379462-Inflated-Mission-Rewards-Fix-on-the-way-and-important-information

I agree they are great fun missions, it would be a shame if they're considered exploiting.

 

[NordicPagan]

Hi All,

Has this bug been fixed? I have a passenger mission i'm looking at taking, one jump of 11.21 ly, but distance from arrival point is 338,180.50 ls, I've done a few to this land base at normally 5-7 mill since the update but I put that down to distance and being friendly with the faction, I am now allied and have seen a steady increase in payouts from this faction, it has a passenger count of 16, economy and is offering 53,865,984 cr, time left 2h 49 min, I knoo it takes me around 15-20 min with interdictions to do this mission.

oh and recommended rank of tycoon, which I am also states 'higher ranked contracts are offered as your reputation increases.....we all know the rest


Should I accept it and see, or will it b*gger my game (PS4)

Cheers
Cmdr NordicPagan
07

 

[NordicPagan]

It's ok, tried to accept it and I get message 'failed to connect with server' so I guess thats a no then.

guess it's like Bullseye, 'Look at what you could have won, but you're going home to Birmingham with nothing' you probably need to be from the UK and of a certain age to know that reference....moooo
07

 

[CMDR RaoulDuke]

19 politicians to Mildeptu to the station 115,000ls away, recommended rank "Mostly Penniless", for 10,000,000cr. Is this by design or over-inflated?

 

[fitzsteve]

19 politicians to Mildeptu to the station 115,000ls away, recommended rank "Mostly Penniless", for 10,000,000cr. Is this by design or over-inflated?

Ask yourself, do you think the rank of "Mostly Penniless" should be getting 10m cr missions 1 jump and 5 min in SC?

 

[acidburn2k20]

biggest mission payout so far for me was 80+ tons of meta alloy from maia to pleione 12.5 million, i am guessing the high demand is what drives prices up. just a shame that the cg supply and demand chain is so effect by low commodity restock rates, guess the thargoids are attacking supply lines ready for invasion

be safe commanders o7

 

[CMDR_Brantford of FLC]

Why does this work? From the 2.4 patch notes:
Added support for missions allocating additional rewards based on station distance from the jump-in point
That's right - payouts now go up based on distance from jump-in point. This is "working as intended" to quote Frontier

(It also depends how friendly you are with the faction(s) and if the local system is in a certain state (boom/economy/expansion) , which if it is, will generate more of these missions. (Which is why you had Rhea - LQ Hydrae; 6 of 7 factions at one point were in boom. So, if you got to allied with all of them.. of course your missions and payouts on these missions increased.

Ask yourself, do you think the rank of "Mostly Penniless" should be getting 10m cr missions 1 jump and 5 min in SC?

 

[fitzsteve]

Why does this work? From the 2.4 patch notes:
Added support for missions allocating additional rewards based on station distance from the jump-in point
That's right - payouts now go up based on distance from jump-in point. This is "working as intended" to quote Frontier

(It also depends how friendly you are with the faction(s) and if the local system is in a certain state (boom/economy/expansion) , which if it is, will generate more of these missions. (Which is why you had Rhea - LQ Hydrae; 6 of 7 missions at one point were in boom. So, if you got to allied with all of them.. of course your missions and payouts on these missions increased.

Yeah but it's broken:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ards-Fix-on-the-way-and-important-information

The Missions for Tycoon/Elite all pay 60M+ and these cannot be taken due to the 30m cap.

You're actually better been penniless as then you can take the 10m missions!

 

[NordicPagan]

Yeah but it's broken:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ards-Fix-on-the-way-and-important-information

The Missions for Tycoon/Elite all pay 60M+ and these cannot be taken due to the 30m cap.

You're actually better been penniless as then you can take the 10m missions!

Hmmm, so at Tycoon and allied I should be able to take the high paying missions but can only take the lower paying ones (3-5 mill, which is still bleeding good,but not as good as 50 mil), Would help with re buys for picking up passengers that appear legit until you take off and don't realise until you're just outside the slot, the feds firing at you kinda tip you off...

 

[Canoe]

We will be investigating any extremely inflated mission rewards that have been redeemed and action may be taken to reverse the effects of this bug.

Can you clarify what you mean by extremely inflated please, and your subsequent comments about reversal. It is pointless playing if arbitrary actions are taken to reverse the time and effort people put into the game, many of whom don't even read these forums. The goal posts seem to be constantly changed when it comes to defining what is and isn't "fair" - we're asked to be "mindful" without any real clarity on what that means. Sure, a trillion credit payout is obviously an error, but below that, we're left to your mercy as to which side of the bed you've got out of on the day for whether we're on the right or wrong side of the law. It's getting tiresome.

 

[fitzsteve]

I think they've fixed it now, I didn't see any unusual missions tonight

 

[CMDR Einseitig]

Sirs,
Bugs I can understand.
But with the threat of sanction could this not have been communicated via the network messaging system we call have to pass through to get to the game?
I only saw mention of it via Obsidian Ant's video last night.
This 'exploit' is not of the same nature as the ability to use grade one materials for grade five engineer modifications yet the tone is one of players 'gaming' the system.
That is not true.
Thanks

Einseitig.

 

[Andrew Gaspurr]

I think they've fixed it now, I didn't see any unusual missions tonight

If getting passenger missions from an allied faction repeatedly, offering between 700 KCr and 950 KCr in total for 20 to 24 people and a one jump and 200,000 light second trip is considered 'fixed', yeah they fixed it. Sometimes I think they have a range of buttons they press and see what comes after randomly pushing one.

So much this:

[video=youtube;LVLoc6FrLi0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVLoc6FrLi0[/video]

 

[fitzsteve]

If getting passenger missions from an allied faction repeatedly, offering between 700 KCr and 950 KCr in total for 20 to 24 people and a one jump and 200,000 light second trip is considered 'fixed', yeah they fixed it. Sometimes I think they have a range of buttons they press and see what comes after randomly pushing one.

So much this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVLoc6FrLi0

Note my post was prior to today's patch.

The silly 20m + missions were gone yesterday and payments seemed in line with what we were used to generally for passenger missions.

It seems they've brought out the nerf hammer in response to their bug instead of just fixing the bug. I imagine they feel we earned enough over the weekend lol.

Think of it like using a sledge hammer to fix a nail that sticking out of the wall...

 

[Andrew Gaspurr]

I don't really care about Rheagate so much. What FD intended was to incentivize in-system missions to far away places that prior nobody bothered going to, because it was just a waste of time. Travelling 200k ls in a system comes close to 20 minutes. I now see missions that pay equal or even more for a one jump 500 ls mission than for a one jump 200k ls mission. So they basically killed the incentive and we are where we were in the first place. Sure you can flip the board until you get a couple of juicier missions but then again why do so, when you can stack missions that pay better without doing so?

Also, cutting the range bonus to compensate for the hilarious payouts before puts everyone under the nerfhammer, even those who didn't do anything 'wrong'. So why would FD go down that salty road?

It's quite absurd, really.

 

[mbar]

Can you clarify what you mean by extremely inflated please, and your subsequent comments about reversal. It is pointless playing if arbitrary actions are taken to reverse the time and effort people put into the game, many of whom don't even read these forums. The goal posts seem to be constantly changed when it comes to defining what is and isn't "fair" - we're asked to be "mindful" without any real clarity on what that means. Sure, a trillion credit payout is obviously an error, but below that, we're left to your mercy as to which side of the bed you've got out of on the day for whether we're on the right or wrong side of the law. It's getting tiresome.

I think the rule to go by is if you are having fun and enjoying yourself after an update, it's probably an exploit. I was nowhere near Rhea and having a fun time. Then I tried to take an OMG 40M mission and kept disconnecting. It was only then I checked the forums, learned that Rhea was the new golden goose, and that FD chose to stop that by disconnecting you if you accepted a mission over 30M. They must have patched the mission board to not display mission of a certain payout now as I now get "Mission board was not fully loaded" or some such error. Sometimes I'm amazed that ED looks so damn good when the game play seems to be such a social experiment.