It is shameful for Frontier that you cannot create a European zoo!

[paul78]

The problem with Europe is probably much like North America it’s only well represented in its specific region. Unlike Africa, Asia, and South America which tend to be a little better in zoos from different localities. I do however like the way prehistoric kingdom chose to do their animals for example a grizzly bear would probably include the European brown bear and maybe a Kodiak bear for example. Pretty neat way of doing it.

 

[SalamAnders]

I bought all the dlcs so far!!!! I like having the full game. Regardless of the arguments, for a Franchise player, Europe does not have the representative animals in the game! Grizzly, Timber wolf, Bison, are NOT European animals!!! Roe deer is missing the most, Wild boar, Wisent, European brown bear, which is much thinner than a Grizzly, the gray wolf which is different from the American wolf, "Timber", and especially Chamois, the symbol of the Carpathians! Whoever says that Europe is well represented, does not know the fauna of Europe!

I would argue that European fauna shouldn't only be represented by hoof-stocks and carnivorans to feel complete.

 

[stonegarden]

South America has all the most REPRESENTATIVE animals! Grizzly and HBB is NOT European. From the point of view of a FRANCHISE player, Europe is very poorly represented!

 

[Marvinb]

I don't think anybody mentioned the grizzly. They mentioned the HBB
And our very own European players said that it's a great representation.

To be honest, all that's truly essential for megafauna seems to be just the boar. We should instead focus on South America, because it's shameful that Europe has more animals than the MOST biodiverse continent in the world

To be fair the "most biodiverse continent" argument only holds water aslong as you blend out the fact that what makes it the most biodiverse continent (fish, insects and birds) is irrelevant in planet zoo.
When it comes to "habitat animals" SA really isnt anything to write home about. (doesnt mean i dont think it still lacks in PZ)

 

[Captain Callum]

Whoever says that Europe is well represented, does not know the fauna of Europe!

Most of the people who said Europe is represented to a good degree are Europeans themselves who I must assume, know about the fauna of their own continent.

 

[paul78]

@stonegarden which is the reason I gave you in my last comment. Asia and Africa dominate most zoos followed by South America. With support so close to possibly ending it’s hard to justify some European animals compared to South America and even some of the remaining continents. It’s also hard to justify the EBB over the spectacled bear atp.

 

[stonegarden]

What the European players say does not cover the reality. If they are satisfied with a Grizzly instead of a European brown bear, this does not mean that the European continent is covered in PZ with specific fauna!

 

[Marvinb]

As a european myself i say its in an Ok state, mostly missing a handfull of animals and birds (but that goes for basicly every continent). BUT only if youre willing to use subsitutes.

And i do realize that european fauna isnt really that important on a global level, so non europeans are probably more than happy with the current roster

 

[Orkan]

While I agree that Europe is missing a couple of essentials, there is really no need to say that it’s shameful. It could use a boar and a wisent, maybe a bear. That’s it. We have the vast majority of iconic European fauna in the game already.

 

[stonegarden]

I find it hard to see how I could use animal substitutes from the fauna of Africa, South America or Australia!?! Why should it be acceptable for Europe!?

 

[DarthQuell]

To be fair the "most biodiverse continent" argument only holds water aslong as you blend out the fact that what makes it the most biodiverse continent (fish, insects and birds) is irrelevant in planet zoo.
When it comes to "habitat animals" SA really isnt anything to write home about. (doesnt mean i dont think it still lacks in PZ)

True, but at the same time also false. There are still loads of animals from SA that aren't fish, insects, and flying birds. You could probably make 2 animal packs.

• Tamandua
• Rhea
• Mara
• Spectacled bear
• Ibis
• Spoonbills
• The various monkeys
• Ocelots
• Margays
• Jaguarundi

There's so much we can already do that'll add to it. Flying birds and fish are definitely the most important, but until we get hypothetically get them, we'll have to settle with what's possible

What the European players say does not cover the reality. If they are satisfied with a Grizzly instead of a European brown bear, this does not mean that the European continent is covered in PZ with specific fauna!

As I said, the HBB covers that. Everybody is already answering it best.
And don't forget that, Frontier is primarily business. To have good business, they need to follow the supply and demand rule. There isn't any demand for a lot European animals, so they won't focus on that

 

[DarthQuell]

I find it hard to see how I could use animal substitutes from the fauna of Africa, South America or Australia!?!

Zoos do that all the time in real-life. It's not that hard for the game.

And, technically, even though I don't like it, the timber wolf is also a European wolf

 

[stonegarden]

Once again for those who do not understand: for a Franchise player, HBB is not a European brown bear! You can NOT trade a HBB like a European brown bear. Or should I understand that we only have Sandbox players on this forum, for whom the sub-species doesn't matter?!

 

[Orkan]

I find it hard to see how I could use animal substitutes from the fauna of Africa, South America or Australia!?!

Africa: Different subspecies/similar species substitutions: e.g. reticulated giraffe for masai.
Australia: Gray color of Red Kangaroo for Eastern Gray Kangaroo. Dingo for Singing Dog
SA: Ostrich or Emu for Rhea, Nine-banded Armadillo for other armadillo species

 

[Marvinb]

True, but at the same time also false. There are still loads of animals from SA that aren't fish, insects, and flying birds. You could probably make 2 animal packs.

• Tamandua
• Rhea
• Mara
• Spectacled bear
• Ibis
• Spoonbills
• The various monkeys
• Ocelots
• Margays
• Jaguarundi

There's so much we can already do that'll add to it. Flying birds and fish are definitely the most important, but until we get hypothetically get them, we'll have to settle with what's possible

As I said, the HBB covers that. Everybody is already answering it best.
And don't forget that, Frontier is primarily business. To have good business, they need to follow the supply and demand rule. There isn't any demand for a lot European animals, so they won't focus on that

Yeah thats why i said i still agree that SA is the most lacking. Just when it comes to Planet zoo habitat animals SA really isnt the most biodiverse area

 

[stonegarden]

Yeah thats why i said i still agree that SA is the most lacking. Just when it comes to Planet zoo habitat animals SA really isnt the most biodiverse area

Africa: Different subspecies/similar species substitutions: e.g. reticulated giraffe for masai.
Australia: Gray color of Red Kangaroo for Eastern Gray Kangaroo. Dingo for Singing Dog
SA: Ostrich or Emu for Rhea, Nine-banded Armadillo for other armadillo species

That goes for a Sandbox player, not a Franchise one!!!!

 

[Captain Callum]

Yeah thats why i said i still agree that SA is the most lacking. Just when it comes to Planet zoo habitat animals SA really isnt the most biodiverse area

For habitat animals, asia surely takes the crown for the most diverse.

 

[Marvinb]

Once again for those who do not understand: for a Franchise player, HBB is not a European brown bear! You can NOT trade a HBB like a European brown bear. Or should I understand that we only have Sandbox players on this forum, for whom the sub-species doesn't matter?!

I dont play franchise. What is the issue with using the hbb or grizzly as the european brown bear?

 

[Angeł]

Europe is only half decently represented if you are willing to use substitutes. For us players who hate using subs, Europe is in a dismal state. We have two out of five of the animals I would consider Europe’s most charismatic fauna, and one of those (the wolf) has an awful model and is named after an American subspecies. We do not have the Bear and Bison, which are arguably the only suitable headliners for a European section, and key species such as the Wolverine are also missing. Whilst I can see why Europe is not a priority for most players, everyone can surely admit that it is one of the only continents (alongside South America) who’s representation does not even begin to cover what would be considered ‘base level’.

I would argue that necessary additions to building a European section would be:
• Eurasian Brown Bear
• Eurasian Wild Boar
• European Bison
• Wolverine

Some great extra additions would be:
• Chamois
• Eurasian Beaver
• Eurasian River Otter
• Muskox
• Scottish Highland Cattle
• Scottish Wildcat
• Shetland Pony

If we are talking in terms of headline species, Europe is SEVERELY lacking and would take such a minimal effort on Frontier’s behalf to fill. The Bison, Bear, Boar, Beaver and Otter would all take such a minimal amount of work, and would do MIRACLES in boosting Europe’s rep.

 

[Marvinb]

For habitat animals, asia surely takes the crown for the most diverse.

Id say it depends on how you look at it. Asia has the most diverse range of biomes, african the most species i think