John Williams to do the music?
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Ah, man! Use different wording with threads like this - it makes it look as though you've actually heard that John Williams is on board to do the music?
Either way, it won't happen; he'll be way too expensive.
Trust Braben & co to get the gameplay/graphics/technology right...
Advertising and music are the two bits that would be money well spent, in order to achieve the vision - which should be to make this game as revolutionary as the original Elite -- but in a massively multiplayer universe.
You'd hope that with the history behind the original that someone would be able to communicate and sell the vision to one of the great cinema composers and get them to buy into this -- at least on a part commission basis.
It'd also be quite an interesting project for them - rather than a sequential 2 hour score.. would be more of mood / action based scores which all have to link together depending on what's going on at the time.
What's the cost to get a decent computer game to market nowadays? £1.7 M doesn't sound like enough...
Think its more around £14 M.
So sounds like more investment is needed, and advertising and music budget should be a decent part.
Dont know about others, but advertising gets people to play and music gets them adds 10 fold to the addiction.
Take the point on the title though... (was intentional - hopefully someone somewhere knows John or Ennio and can pitch this at them
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Advertising and music are the two bits that would be money well spent, in order to achieve the vision - which should be to make this game as revolutionary as the original Elite -- but in a massively multiplayer universe.
You'd hope that with the history behind the original that someone would be able to communicate and sell the vision to one of the great cinema composers and get them to buy into this -- at least on a part commission basis.
It'd also be quite an interesting project for them - rather than a sequential 2 hour score.. would be more of mood / action based scores which all have to link together depending on what's going on at the time.
What's the cost to get a decent computer game to market nowadays? £1.7 M doesn't sound like enough...
Think its more around £14 M.
So sounds like more investment is needed, and advertising and music budget should be a decent part.
Dont know about others, but advertising gets people to play and music gets them adds 10 fold to the addiction.
Take the point on the title though... (was intentional - hopefully someone somewhere knows John or Ennio and can pitch this at them
)Most of us do that...otherwise we wouldn't have given our money to the Kickstarter so gladly. :smilie:
I agree that music is an important part in any form of media, but graphics, the richness of the environment/story and especially gameplay is more so. Keep in mind that I say this as a "composer" myself. Music is there to enhance the core mechanics, but if the core is bad then it doesn't matter how good the music is. It will actually just feel a little weird if the music is amazing and the the rest of the product a pile of crap.
BTW, just so we are clear about this. I am NOT saying Elite will be crap. I don't get how advertising is something that is well spent to make the game revolutionary? Successful, yes. Sell more copies of the game, yes. But making the game itself revolutionary?
I'm not saying that will be impossible at all (although John and Ennio that you named pretty is much a pipe dream IMO), but I'm still not sure that one of the "great cinema composers" are the right choice anyway as I'll explain below.
And this is why these composers maybe isn't the best choice. They are obviously great at writing music for linear form of media, but as you just wrote games nowadays are striving for a much more dynamic form of music that changes dependent on what's happening in the game. Music that is built in layers that makes it possible to move between different moods in a seamless way. This whole way of writing music, which I personally find extremely fascinating, is something quite different from "static" film music.
If FD hired one of these composers they would themselves enlist help from people who are more accustomed to this type of media. So why not hire a composer that has focused more on writing for games in the first place? I guess FD could always try to get a well known name, like John Williams, to write the main theme, but someone else to do the bulk of the music if it's the PR you are after.
And that is why I wrote that I don't want them to blow the entire KS budget on music, I didn't say the total budget.
Thankfully the total budget is indeed a lot bigger now thanks to the IPO and the funds they have invested themselves.Michael Brookes
Game Director
Moved thread to the general discussion thread. While we won't be having John Williams, we do have some excellent people in mind. We're in the selection process at the moment so I can't say to much, but we should be able to give you some details in the next few weeks, or 'soon' as I like to say
Michael
Michael
You don't need big names to do good music, I rather have FD spend money on an unknown composer.
Also I prefer futuristic electronic space music for this game.
The subtle background music in the Youtube E: D Progress videos is a good example of what would fit well within the game.
Also I prefer futuristic electronic space music for this game.
The subtle background music in the Youtube E: D Progress videos is a good example of what would fit well within the game.
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...we should be able to give you some details in the next few weeks, or 'soon' as I like to say
Did you just give me your definition of "soon"!!
Ok, let's see if we can get even more specific.
Is a "few weeks" 1-3 or more in the area of 3-6?
I have already figured out that "soon (ish)" according to you means 2-3 months.
Might want to check out another thread then... http://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=5194&page=19
I love this background music. I had asked if this would be music in the game and therefore in the digital edition of the music. Otherwise how to get this background music ? Michael had told me that it was not yet decided for the game and that background music is a composition realized internally at Frontier.
So I still do not know how to get this background music.
Either way, I want a remake of the 'Frontier' theme tune in Elite D.
Michael Brookes
Game Director
I wud love a Virtual diva singing some ballads like Hatsune Miku in a futuristic game, but i doubt it will happen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6I8mLkDEJoY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6I8mLkDEJoY
Terrible choice ...
no no no no no no... lets take this into space!!
its not a terrible choice...a terrible choice would be 'the wiggles'
OR 'pouring vinegar in my pants instead of going shopping for bread'
sure, if they have ~5-6 million $ to pay his fee, rehearsals and the recording with the London Philharmonic Orchestra, Editing and 10 engineers and editors
This man is legend and a multi millionaire, the creme de la creme of film music composers, he won´t touch a video game with a six foot pole.
btw he´s busy with Star Wars Episode 7-9
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Gav too 80's..... as for Carcass I'll need to 'research' them...
I think the music is soo important it shouldn't be down to the biggest name, but the best(est) soundtrack... remember the soundtrack is OFTEN an extra purchase so you do want it to be good..
I love Allen Strouds work, its instantly recognizable as his work and is very soundtracky...
So something like that that screams SPACE and ELITE would be perfect..
I think the music is soo important it shouldn't be down to the biggest name, but the best(est) soundtrack... remember the soundtrack is OFTEN an extra purchase so you do want it to be good..
I love Allen Strouds work, its instantly recognizable as his work and is very soundtracky...
So something like that that screams SPACE and ELITE would be perfect..