Jurassic World Evolution 2: Cretaceous Predator Pack and Update 8 coming 30 November

Mister Random

Mister Random
DarthQuell said:
I wouldn't say that. The Tarbo and Utah may be similar to what we have, but the Gigantoraptor is nothing like we have in-game, especially after seeing the species guide.
And the Conc is just so weird looking that it's great on its own and probably sold the pack for most people
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You basically reminded me of why I think it's hard to come with "uniqe" and "new" dinosaurus - the uncovered species are simply very similar to each other, and for an usual gamer "they're the same picture"
TheMightyMegalosaurus said:
If we're going with this mentality, then it doesn't matter what animals are added anymore because they're "just X version of what we already have". Why add any new spinosaurids, they're gonna look like Suchomimus. Why bother adding any other theropod, they're gonna look like Tyrannosaurus/Giganotosaurus/Carnotarurus/Velociraptor/etc. Why bother adding more armored dinosaurs, they're just edits of Triceratops/Stegosaurus/Ankylosaurus. Any new hadrosaurs are gonna be almost exactly like Parasauralophus or Edmontosaurus. All the pterosaurs will look the same, all the sea creatures will be clones of existing ones, you get the point. I've seen people who want half the animals in the game removed because they're "too much like the only ones we care about", i.e. the famous dinosaurs everyone knows about. And that's a really stupid mindset. Imagine demanding a zoo to remove all of the big cats that aren't lions or tigers because "they're too similar to care about". Or removing all of the bears that aren't grizzlies, or all of the African herbivores that aren't the elephant, rhino, and hippo. The other dinosaurs and reptiles are no less worthy of being in the game than Tyrannosaurus, Velociraptor, Mosasaurus, Brachiosaurus, Triceratops, et al.
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And then you get hundreds of steam opinions with "very nice, but they all look the same". Look at this situation from a viewpoint of a simple user, not a dino fan.
 
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CharlieXGaming

CharlieXGaming
DarthQuell said:
And the Conc is just so weird looking that it's great on its own and probably sold the pack for most people
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But it’s still just another medium sized carnivore . It having a sail and quills is basically the same slight differences as carno or cerato having horns. I don’t think these creatures will attract old players or new players.
 

DarthQuell

DarthQuell
CharlieXGaming said:
But it’s still just another medium sized carnivore . It having a sail and quills is basically the same slight differences as carno or certain having horns. I don’t think these creatures will attract old players or new players.
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Yeah, but the camel doesn't attract people, either. Neither does the peccary or the red river hog, yet those were popular. They're essentially redskins as well.
Currently, the only thing people don't like is the Tarbo, which looks like the Hidden Adventure Tarbosaurus
 

DarthQuell

DarthQuell
Mister Random said:
Hybrids are nice. Except... It's reusing content. I would love them in JWE2, but people will surely complain about it.

P.S. Sorry for my grumpiness, I'm in a "everything is a problem" mode today ;]
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Let's turn that frown upside and suggests new hybrida to the devs.

Quellosaurus, anyone?

A spinosaurid-carnotaurus hybrid that's semiaquatic and can charge prey like a bull
 

Mister Random

Mister Random
CharlieXGaming said:
My alerts say you quoted me, now I’m confused lol
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Yeah, I wrote some utter rubbish and had to delete to stop misinformation.

Since I have your attention - my point is that calling Concavenator a "another medium sized carnivore" is a great oversimplification. It has distinct and unique posture, and might be a seller for many otherwise undecided players. The dlc should also encourage current players to buy it, not only attract new players.

To attract new players a "Cenozoic pack" should do the trick.
 

CharlieXGaming

CharlieXGaming
Mister Random said:
Since I have your attention - my point is that calling Concavenator a "another medium sized carnivore" is a great oversimplification. It has distinct and unique posture, and might be a seller for many otherwise undecided players. The dlc should also encourage current players to buy it, not only attract new players.
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To me it looks like a slightly larger Australovenator with a sail and quills, but thats just me.
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TheMightyMegalosaurus

TheMightyMegalosaurus
CharlieXGaming said:
This isn’t my point, if you compare this games packs to planet zoo for example, planet zoo had really unique animals in the first couple years like meerkats, foxes, seals, penguins, etc stuff that was completely new or atleast had unique features that separates them from the rest.
After a couple years pass we started to get animals that were similar to other animals, a second wildebeest, second camel, etc.

This pack feels like it has the quality of a pack that should come out next year, when they put a little less effort in packs because they’re realistically gonna move onto other projects.

This pack could’ve been way more unique though. I admit, Giga I underestimated, I didn’t think they would give it a complete new set of animations like we saw in the field guide. I still feel like it could’ve had one more unique creature like kaprosuchus or Helicoprion. But who knows, maybe Concavenator has a complete new set of behaviors as well, I’ll have to check it out Thursday.
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Getting Dunk doesn't mean we're going or should be getting an influx of other non-dinosaur or reptile animals, this is still a Jurassic franchise game and the dinos and reptiles/canon creatures come first.
 

CharlieXGaming

CharlieXGaming
TheMightyMegalosaurus said:
this is still a Jurassic franchise game and the dinos and reptiles/canon creatures come first.
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But it could've done both. Address canon species as well as new ones. I would keep Tarbo because its in CC, Giga because it is actually looking pretty promising and unique, but you can tell even by the trailer Utah is the Pyro rig. I wouldve preferred Kaprosuchus or a marine predator, or even if it had to be a raptor have it be something at least a little different like Maisiakasaurus. Concavenator is fine, it would be in the pack for fan service.
 

TheMightyMegalosaurus

TheMightyMegalosaurus
CharlieXGaming said:
But it could've done both. Address canon species as well as new ones. I would keep Tarbo because its in CC, Giga because it is actually looking pretty promising and unique, but you can tell even by the trailer Utah is the Pyro rig. I wouldve preferred Kaprosuchus or a marine predator, or even if it had to be a raptor have it be something at least a little different like Maisiakasaurus. Concavenator is fine, it would be in the pack for fan service.
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Spoiler alert: all of the animals that look similar to each other use the same skeleton and rig. This has been a thing since the first game launched several years ago.
 

LordTrilobite

LordTrilobite
Both Utahraptor and Concavenator are hands down the best thing in this pack imo. Utahraptor is easily in the top 5 of best theropod designs in the game.
Gigantoraptor is also really quite cool and unique.

Everyone has their own preferences for what animals they'd like to see in the game. Personally, I'd love to see some more hadrosaurs. But I'll take a few more theropods.

Here's hoping we'll get more packs in the future so other amazing animals can get added as well.
 

TyranntX

TyranntX
LordTrilobite said:
Both Utahraptor and Concavenator are hands down the best thing in this pack imo. Utahraptor is easily in the top 5 of best theropod designs in the game.
Gigantoraptor is also really quite cool and unique.

Everyone has their own preferences for what animals they'd like to see in the game. Personally, I'd love to see some more hadrosaurs. But I'll take a few more theropods.

Here's hoping we'll get more packs in the future so other amazing animals can get added as well.
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Agreed. Everything in this pack has been highly requested in some form or another, in fact 3 of them were mods in the days of JWE1 so it goes to show they all have their popularity. I doubt we'll get more packs ( I recall Evo mentioning there was only one more pack before this one to come and now it's here), but If I'm wrong then I'll be glad to be.
 

DragonNTiger

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TyranntX said:
LI doubt we'll get more packs ( I recall Evo mentioning there was only one more pack before this one to come and now it's here), but If I'm wrong then I'll be glad to be.
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Oh I so hope that isn't true... what worse way could they end the game but with a DLC that's 3/4 reskins of overused rigs...
 

TheMightyMegalosaurus

TheMightyMegalosaurus
TyranntX said:
Agreed. Everything in this pack has been highly requested in some form or another, in fact 3 of them were mods in the days of JWE1 so it goes to show they all have their popularity. I doubt we'll get more packs ( I recall Evo mentioning there was only one more pack before this one to come and now it's here), but If I'm wrong then I'll be glad to be.
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I remember someone else saying that there's evidence that there's at least three more DLCs after this one, and it was stated a few months ago. Plus Frontier said they're supporting the game into 2024. With what's going on with their finances and staff it's really unlikely we'll get an expansion, but some more animal packs and updates are on the table. They've also still got at least three canon onscreen species to add (Microceratus, Sino-Spino, and Smilodon).
 
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