I once had an interesting conversation on the forums with a certain individual who wanted the rules regarding interdiction, mass lock etc changed, basically his rules would have made it so that every ship successfully interdicted would have been forced to fight the interdictor, and you know, he really didn't see anything wrong with that. I'm not sure I understand that mentality, but it seems pretty common even in the real world.
Just had a 'Dust Up' with another Cmdr
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I once had an interesting conversation on the forums with a certain individual who wanted the rules regarding interdiction, mass lock etc changed, basically his rules would have made it so that every ship successfully interdicted would have been forced to fight the interdictor, and you know, he really didn't see anything wrong with that. I'm not sure I understand that mentality, but it seems pretty common even in the real world.
We all want what benefits us the most. Take me for example. I'd change the rules so that if you are interdicted by another player and you win the interdiction battle, then the assailant's interdictor should explode.
I started a thread about a similar experience being chain-interdicted by an Anaconda while I was in my Asp.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-Playerbase-is-Terrible?p=4833578#post4833578
I took a screenshot of the conversation after he tried interdicting me several times and doing very little damage in the process as I was able to easily outrun his Anaconda and jump away each time. The CMDR I encountered also suggested that I was "griefing" them by jumping away instead of staying around for an imbalanced fight which I found quite amusing. From my own experiences and the responses from other players in my thread this is actually rather typical of the vast majority of PVP encounters when interdicted.
If you do run into this CMDR again, it would be amusing to take a screenshot of the conversation to post on the forums for the general amusement of other players (just remember to blank out the CMDR name before posting it so the other CMDR can't be identified).
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Have one already. Wish it was gimballed though...
It's just boring after a while. You're trying to get on with playing the game, and they are constantly trying to kill you because they are bored with the game. They lack the imagination to understand their own predicament, and having got what they wanted out of the base game, they see no issue in ruining the experience for others.
I set myself goals within the game, usually several which are running concurrently, plus any random content which pops up to divert me. That's my personality, and it's why I enjoy the so-called 'sandbox' of ED. I don't mind being pirated, I don't really mind psycho killers when they come at me guns blazing. But the incessant station griefing attempts, the perverted use of game mechanics just to ruin another player's experience, the endless, pathetic drivel about "Care Bears" and the vacuous and wholly posed, faux outrage over combat logging. This is what Open has become.
And the likes of Vindicator Jones and Obsidian Ant are pandering to this mock horror. Just look at who is shouting the loudest about it. Just think about what those individuals do within the game and why. It beggars belief that people fall for this crap, again and again, but the human race is endlessly surprising.
Pandering?? I wouldnt call what I am doing pandering. Logging is a serious problem, but so is griefing, both are just as toxic as each other. I knew releasing that video was going to cop me some flak, and boy did it, especially on reddit. But its a subject that needs constant discussion until frontier finally decide to actually do something about it. Obsidian Ants video was from an outsiders perspective, Ant is not a PVPer, and he openly admits it. My video was from the perspective from someone who does both PVP and PVE.. There is no such thing as legitimate logging, if you log, you cheat.. period.. HOWEVER I can understand why some people do log, especially when faced with constant death wings. I would rather Frontier stop making content and focus on crime and punishment for those who just want to be psychotic, and punishments for those who log.. And the only way that is going to happen is if the community makes noise about it, and Youtubers openly discuss it.
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Ya know... if the interdictor module were damaged as a result of being beaten, that would not only provide incentive for beating interdictions, but also make sense... hence it won't get implemented, citing "balancing reasons" or some other such excuse.
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I'm sure this would have to exclude the standard issue menu log-off, since it has been stated this is acceptable. Now, I could be wrong here, but I highly suspect a VoiceAttack, programmable keyboard or even plain old macro could be configured as a one-press Log-off from Menu/Acknowledge Danger Warning, and be initiated at the moment of interdiction, and be used to bail, legitimately, either before said interdiction ended or the interdictor is within firing range.
Just thinking from the other side of the box.
I didn't bother with the other youtuber you mention, but I started to watch yours & immediately realised it was just a monetiesed forum post & gave it a miss. I have no idea what your opinion is on the matter, but here's mine FWTW:
Groups are Whitelists. Add a Blacklist to Open, problem solved. Didn't make a youtube vid about it though, sorry about that.
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It's technically impossible to punish logging in a way which won't be some combination of avoidable, manipulable, and prone to false positives. Barring an expensive (both in outlay and ongoing costs) rewrite of Elite to use server-client instead of P2P. In other words, there will never be a point where somebody who doesn't want to PvP with you will be forced to do so.
It's not a pair of related problems in need of separate solutions. Combat logging is merely a symptom of the fact that much of the PvP which goes on in Elite is fun for only one of the involved parties.
Aren't you just a little peach.
Just some food for thought: if you aren't even willing to hear out a position that isn't your own, you may be part of the problem. VJ and OAs videos were exceptionally balanced.
I'm totally in favour of more people voicing their opinions, just don't want to encourage the concept of monetising opinion when it could simply have been written out as a forum post (or both). I also don't think an opinion is worth more just because it's in video format. You can watch what you want, I do the same.
I would like a module that incapacitates hardpoints (on own ship) in exchange for masking player ship as NPC. It would be useful for traders and explorers alike. I'd set a limit on how small a ship it can fit though so no suicidey etc and exempt mining lasers. For NPCs it would have the effect of showing cargo hold as empty (for all those materials etc and as a smuggling tool). The effect would be void is scanned by a warrant scanner.
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i have in my mind "Wont somebody please think of the children" meme. I am jesting but ED IS a 7 age rated game, therefore language outside of private groups SHOULD be moderated imo.
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Is there a profanity filter in the chat? I had some CMDR mouth off to me the other day but it came up in blocked out characters [haha]
FleEagles, CobraKhazi and SuicideWinders have all been used to run interference against interdictors....
.... apparently the iCourier is rather good too.
I've just been twiddling with my speed couriers loadout and I've managed to cram in a burst turret without reducing speed, I wonder if engineering it for extended range with phasing sequence would add an extra level of irritation to an interference ship.
No profanity filter as far as I know, but he could have been talking in russian, and you may be lacking cyrillic character set on your system.
I phrased that inelegantly. I thought you and OA both made good videos and I think you both have a very sensible handle on the situation.
What I was trying to say is that I think the outrage over combat logging is mostly bogus, and I think it's a red herring. Most of the people who are shouting the loudest are the same ones who cause the most upset and annoyance to other players. So, in a sense, I found it frustrating to watch those videos, as I feel the community is being manipulated. It's straightforward misdirection.
In other words, I give short shrift to the whining from commanders who think PvP is destroying a Beluga with an engineered FdL.