You must remember that although you can play alone or in any group, the space is the same for everyone in ED, the things you do in SP have consequences in the ED universe. So you are not alone playing in your own universe at home. That is for X and any other SP game, but not this one, if you're connected to a centralize server your FPS will suffer. The only games that don't have impact in MP are simple games, not simulation style ones.
Just something I've noticed between FDev Streamers and "Regular" Streamers
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You must remember that although you can play alone or in any group, the space is the same for everyone in ED, the things you do in SP have consequences in the ED universe. So you are not alone playing in your own universe at home. That is for X and any other SP game, but not this one, if you're connected to a centralize server your FPS will suffer. The only games that don't have impact in MP are simple games, not simulation style ones.
They've already said that they know there's a problem. The twelve or so patches have improved performance massively, but this says more about the state that Odyssey launched in than the outright performance of the client.
This is not true at all. Implication is deliberate; it is how you intend your words or action to be understood. It would bn more accurate to say that not showing the FPS causes angry internet keyboard warriors to infer that it is a deliberate policy.
What people say/do and what they mean tend to follow conventional patterns. Often, how people interpret these is faulty.
Moreover, if someone is being disruptive in the stream chat, it's unlikely that the hosts of the stream are going to accommodate them, even if their request would be otherwise reasonable. And nor should they accommodate them.
Performance is still meh. Better, but meh - it's unpredictable and highly variable outside of conflict zones, where you know it's just going to be terrible.
It very much depends on your CPU, how CPU-intensive the game is, how many other clients are communicating, and how the multiplayer data is handled.
If DCS is a CPU-intensive game (I have no idea if it is or not), and your CPU is ageing or otherwise slow, then you can expect multiplayer to impact performance. Battlefield 2042 is another good example - the move to 128-player lobbies basically showed 4c8t CPUs the door - they just don't have the grunt to handle all that networking data while pushing sufficient draw calls. Even older 6c12t parts like a Ryzen5 3600 are too slow to consistently push >90fps. The last time I checked, a 5600X was really the minimum for smooth, high-refresh-rate gameplay.
That's because devs KNOW that game is extremely badly optimized and it requires RTX 3080 or 3090 to run it smooth on 60fps without completely butchering the settings. It would be bad advertising if they reveal the FACT that you need a super computer to get solid 60fps in Odyssey.
Forget the PC specs at this point, it's a simple FACT that Odyssey runs 6-8x times worse than Horizons, so there's no point even talking about what specs or settings you use. I have made 2 videos on comparing Hor to Ody, on both I proved that Odyssey literally runs 6-8 times worse than Horizons when using exact SAME graphics settings. .. and worst part is that Ody looks almost same as Hor, there are some visual improvements, but I'd rather have slightly worse graphics with 6-8 times better performance.
I have GTX 1080 and I was able to run Horizons in native 4k with most things on max and got solid 60fps. I later cranked the supersampling down to 0.75x, because this reduces my GPU load and keeps my card running cooler and also in some rare occasions it had some small lag spikes, dropping down to like 50-55fps, but it was very rare. Anyway there's not much visual difference between native 4k and downsampled to 0.75x, it still looks very crisp.
But in Odyssey I cranked down most settings and set it in 1080p and still lagged down to like 20-30fps in settlements :/
Some of their updates have improved things slightly, but mostly because they added the AMD Fidelity upscaler, it's not a fix, it's a bypass .. and a poor one to be honest.
So even with AMD fidelity turned to "performance" I still lag down to like 30fps in settlements and about 50-55fps inside some stations. I also had to turn down some other settings to achieve this.
There's just no excuse, game is badly optimized and this is why Steam reviews are mostly negative.
don't get me wrong, I absolutely like Odyssey and I play it all the time, but I'm forced to have it on bare minimum graphics that don't look completely pixelated, I even took advantage of my 4k Asus monitor features to increase sharpness, so lower quality graphics look more crisp. I turned down unnecessary things, such as shadows and anything relating to shadows. I also had to turn FX quality to "medium". With those butchered settings, I get 60fps most of the time while on planetary surfaces, but near settlements .. it goes down to 25-35fps .. 20 in conflict zones, while in Horizons = native 4k, maxed out settings = solid 60fps.
Least devs could do .. is admit that they messed up and they will work on fixing it, but instead they just hide the truth and ban those who speak the truth :/
I wouldn't be surprised if someone bans me for speaking the truth here too. But by all means ... go ahead and ban your loyal players and customers who spend money on your products, it's perfect way to make people leave the game.
They're clearly not happy with it with patches planned.
Just don't expect them to shout it from the rooftops.
Just sayin'.
Just don't expect them to shout it from the rooftops.
Just sayin'.
I guess those competitive young'uns wouldn't play on Steam Deck, right?
A 3070 is enough to play it on ultra / 1440p at 90 FPS.
I'm answering your points in the way you have, not putting words in your mouth like you have done multiple times, or moving the goalposts either. But sure, keep up the act of portraying yourself the reasonable rational one. Got to keep up the appearances to sow the narrative.
Ignore anything good about Odyssey you mean. Show me where I have ignored any of that in my many posts on the subject, but that would actually require you to be intellectually honest and debate in good faith. Your position is pretty clear, however.
I love the style, try to gain some authority to bolster the jab and then end with the punchline. So sad. Not a good look. Such a shame. It could be so much better. Not a good look. etc. etc. etc.. It's such a tired formula.
Putting words in my mouth again. It's all you got isn't it? Still haven't disproved my point.
The fact that you have to put words into my mouth to try to make what effectively amounts to an incoherent parting shot says everything there needs to be said. And I will dare to say that overall I am far more truthful about the game than you are, though of course, when one runs out of arguments the tactic then becomes to take it to a personal level, as you are trying to do.
I remember being wowed by Driller being shown at the '87 PCW show for the first time. Barely getting 2fps on a ~1mhz 6502 I'm sure. But we considered ourselves lucky!
BTW; I want to clarify that I cap my FPS to 60, in space it's roughly 114 and onfoot it is often 70+.
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All computers from 2004 on sold as home computers fit the technical requirements for being a supercomputer in its original tense if that's what you're referring to? If not, then my RTX2060 based laptop running on Ultra with 1.25x supersampling is almost solidly 60fps, barring the few known spots tells a different story.
I mean, no-ones saying that Odyssey is perfect, but telling people it's a "FACT" that they need an RTX 3080 to get it to run 60fps? What's that based on? Your experience with your 1080ti? I don't know how one could claim that with any degree of accuracy, yet alone state that it's a "FACT". Maybe there's something else going on with what you're suggesting?
Everyone just remember to post your screen resolution and settings with the FPS. Else it's comparing apples and oranges.
Mine was 1440, mostly Ultra settings...
(no AMD helpers running)
A RTX 3060 is enough to play it in VR (HTC Vive) at VR Ultra in settlements. No idea what the FPS is. All I know is that I'm not having problems even in settlements, which is all I really care about.
since you sayd you notice the diferences with fdev not showing fps and other streamers to .. do you notice there high fps on dated hardware to from tose smaller streamers???
kinda wierd isint ?? that the perforamnce complains are legit non issue and come from people who dont actaully own the game ..
kinda wierd isint ?? that the perforamnce complains are legit non issue and come from people who dont actaully own the game ..
no tarkov dosent run better than edo.. i own tarkov .. you people want to be mad with legitimet no reason .. i can pull up tarkov and elite and show you the bottom line hardware runing both games and you will see i legit get mroe fps in elite than in tarkov.. im tierd of this missinformation and its anoying at this point.
you are wasting your breath on these "people"
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