[video=youtube;8irgUCUhlrA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8irgUCUhlrA[/video]
Keelback as the Millennium Falcon, What do you think.
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I hate you. (Not really. 
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But I am going through a ship identity crisis, and that video makes things worse! XD
)But I am going through a ship identity crisis, and that video makes things worse! XD
Somebody did a size comparison and found that a Cobra Mk. III is almost the same size and shape as the Millennium Falcon.
For me its my AspX, Squadron paint scheme with the thin blue stripes, 4 burst lazers ( engineered with Focused Weapons level 1 Scrambled spectrum effect on all of 'em ) and hopefully soon engineered missiles. Hopefully I can get the paint degraded allot more so she looks more tatty and smugglery.
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Back in the days when it was pretty much just between cobra3 and aspx for contenders, I was always on the aspx side of the debate, and there I stayed until one day it dawned on me - Luke's immediate reaction:
[video=youtube;Mrx24jofi0w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrx24jofi0w&app=desktop[/video]
Yes, definitely keelback, confirmed.
[video=youtube;Mrx24jofi0w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrx24jofi0w&app=desktop[/video]
Yes, definitely keelback, confirmed.
As I said earlier, it's not just about being the right size or having certain specs, but more a matter of where it "fits" in the universe and how it feels within it.
sure, Your personal Falcon might be different, because to you (the general you) the Falcon represents your ideal. So that might be the Python, Cobra, Asp, FDL, or something else, without much consensus.
but let's look at the Falcon's role in the movies. It is not designed as a combat craft. It is not as fast as a small fighter in normal space (it is constantly overshot by TIEs for example). It's the sort of ship you underestimate by looking at it. It's an underdog with a few tricks up its sleeve to win the day.
So to me the Cobra is out despite fitting the size/shape requirement. Despite being technically multipurpose, it is the fastest ship in realspace and an excellent combat craft for its size.
the Python is out because it is armed to the gills for a ship its size. It's actually more akin to the Skipray Blastboat from the Star Wars universe. Same with the FDL, which to me is more like a B-wing fighter in nature (designed to take out much larger ships).
The Asp still fits, though. Despite the number of hard points it has, it is not that fast or maneuverable (and had killer inertia) and its FSD fits with the idea of the Falcon's hyperdrive capabilities.
But in regards to the video, making the KB akin to the Falcon isn't just about trying to match its specs, either (though for the record what it has are concussion missiles, which it used against the second Death Star - one pylon would have sufficed for that). It's not about hammering a square peg into a round hole. It's about how it compares in relation to the two universes. Therefore it doesn't have to be constrained in its build and can have "special modifications" to fill its role as a smuggling ship that can adequately defend itself.
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I'll throw in the asp scout into the ring while not fast it is dam manoeuvrable and with a bit of fsd love it can have a decent jump range. it's dam ugly and Luke would call it a piece of junk and he would be right. you can put a bit of cargo on it and set it up for multirole but it's pap and most people get a cobra as it's cheaper and better. While you make a good argument for the keelback it's not as manoeuvrable as the Falcon and that's the key thing the falcon can dodge and weave like a boss, keelback couldn't dodge a arthritic tortoise that's asleep.
[hehe] Well, that just proves my point: The Millennium Falcon is "the fastest hunk-o-junk in the galaxy" and has proven time and time again that it is an excellent combat craft "for its size". The Falcon never carried a lot of cargo. Han was a smuggler, needed a (relatively) small, fast ship that could haul a reasonable amount of cargo or passengers quietly, quickly, discreetly. IMO the Millennium Falcon remains equivalent to a Cobra III. Not much to look at, easy to underestimate. Nothing to see here, officer. Fast, small but not tiny. Too small for living in, but comfortable to spend a few days in (The Winnie in Space-balls). Not primarily a combat ship but very well armed for its size. Can take a few passengers and/or a medium/small amount of cargo anywhere a customer could want while discreetly "avoiding Imperial entanglements" and that's the real trick, isn't it?
Wait, can a Cobra III fit Passenger Modules?
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Yes. My Mk III has a cabin.
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Keelback, hmmm, not sure. The Viper MKIV kinda look likes a mini-Falcon
Sorry BBT the hereditary heir appears to be a Cobra Mk4. I don't have specific proof but it just feels right, if you know what I mean.
What's really going to bake all your noodles is when you realise that the Diamondback Scout, with a dual Rapid Fire pulse mod and seeker missiles is...
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Gotta disagree - fastest hunk o junk refers to her light speed travel, not normal space. Anything and everything can keep up with her or overshoot right past her in real space. And the Cobra isn't underestimated for its combat abilities. It's renowned for them.
But as I said before, your mileage (and definitions) may vary. There is no proof or definitive answer, just what feels right to you and why.