Keyboard and HOTAS Reference Sheet Generator

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VerticalBlank

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Yes it probably is more of a title than a description. I'm still experimenting with the layout of that list. Right now it's just a very barebones HTML table.

I'm keeping a tight rein on server space. After one day of not being accessed, a stored config is "dehydrated" to just a 35KB ".binds" file and a 700B pickled object containing the data needed to regenerate the ref card(s). I initially planned to migrate that into SQL but I'm going to wait and see what sort of volumes I get before starting any work on that.
 

DragoonKnight

DragoonKnight
jgm said:
With the advent of Horizons there are even more bindings to remember, so it's a good time to generate a reference sheet for your own customised configuration.

The reference sheet generator has been updated and is available at http://www.mcdee.net/elite/ It takes a copy of your custom binds file and generates reference sheets for you for both keyboard and HOTAS. Details of how to use it are available on the site.

If you find any problems with the files that are generated, would like another product supported, or have any general comments then please put them here. Thank you, and I hope that you find this useful.
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Just stumbled upon your refrence sheet generator and it is very useful. Exactly what I have been looking for. Thank you!
 

VerticalBlank

VerticalBlank
AndreZero said:
Hi VerticalBlank, what kind of info would you need to add support for the Thrustmaster Cougar HOTAS? https://www.mcdee.net/elite/binds/shjzhj
Thanks!
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It was already supported but the device ID of "044F0400" that your bindings file is using was not in the list of mapped IDs for the Cougar. That's an easy fix.

Before I release that, could you please take a look at https://edrefcard.info/binds/yghdaj and tell me whether it has got everything right. (I manually changed the device ID in your bindings file to "044FB351" and re-uploaded.)
 

AndreZero

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VerticalBlank said:
It was already supported but the device ID of "044F0400" that your bindings file is using was not in the list of mapped IDs for the Cougar. That's an easy fix.

Before I release that, could you please take a look at https://edrefcard.info/binds/yghdaj and tell me whether it has got everything right. (I manually changed the device ID in your bindings file to "044FB351" and re-uploaded.)
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Thanks for the quick response! I was asking about the HOTAS (stick and throttle), not the MFD (really confusing that Thrustmaster named two products the same).
 

VerticalBlank

VerticalBlank
AndreZero said:
Thanks for the quick response! I was asking about the HOTAS (stick and throttle), not the MFD (really confusing that Thrustmaster named two products the same).
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Ah, right. Glad I checked, I thought it looked odd.

That's a little bit more work. First I need to locate a suitable image or images of the throttle and stick that is both free to use and free to modify. That's usually doable with an advanced Google image search. Then I'll need your help to identify the control ID for each button. Usually the easiest way is to work from the bindings you already uploaded and for you to indicate which function is bound to each button.
 

AndreZero

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VerticalBlank said:
Ah, right. Glad I checked, I thought it looked odd.

That's a little bit more work. First I need to locate a suitable image or images of the throttle and stick that is both free to use and free to modify. That's usually doable with an advanced Google image search. Then I'll need your help to identify the control ID for each button. Usually the easiest way is to work from the bindings you already uploaded and for you to indicate which function is bound to each button.
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It looks like the Control IDs for the buttons are Joy_ and then numbers that correspond with the numbers in this diagram except the Hat switch are
Joy_POV1Up, Joy_POV1Down, Joy_POV1Left, and Joy_POV1Right

f11.jpg

The axis on the joystick are

Joy_XAxis (stick X)
Joy_YAxis (stick Y)
Joy_ZAxis (throttle)

Joy_RYAxis (microstick left-right)
Joy_RZAxis (microstick up-down)

there are two more axis associated to the rotaries on the throttle but I will have to look them up later.
 

VR StarLightPL

VR StarLightPL
VerticalBlank said:
Usually the easiest way is to work from the bindings you already uploaded and for you to indicate which function is bound to each button.
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You can also go to the windows control panel for controllers and see which button maps to which number by pressing each one in the test section. That's what I did when giving jgm the layout for Logitech Driving Force GT.
 

VerticalBlank

VerticalBlank
AndreZero said:
It looks like the Control IDs for the buttons are Joy_ and then numbers that correspond with the numbers in this diagram except the Hat switch are
Joy_POV1Up, Joy_POV1Down, Joy_POV1Left, and Joy_POV1Right

http://www.schoenstatt-antofagasta.cl/capa9/2017/dcs/201701 Cougar Install Tutorial/f11.jpg
The axis on the joystick are

Joy_XAxis (stick X)
Joy_YAxis (stick Y)
Joy_ZAxis (throttle)

Joy_RYAxis (microstick left-right)
Joy_RZAxis (microstick up-down)

there are two more axis associated to the rotaries on the throttle but I will have to look them up later.
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Cool. I'm a bit busy helping out with EDDI right now but will try to get some time to implement this over the next few days.

Edit: We'll want an image with a white background for printing. I'll see what's available.
 
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VR StarLightPL

VR StarLightPL
markus54 said:
I click on the bar that says generate. All I got was a link to this page. Kind of useless.
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There are two things infinite, the universe and the user's stu... ingenuity. We're not so sure about the universe though.

Seriously tho, reread the instructions on the page and try again before calling something useless, a third party tool which cost someone's work, given to you for free. Maybe you're using some "kinda useless" controllers nobody has, thus not recognizable? Maybe you picked the wrong, "kinda useless" file? Maybe you're on "kinda useless" internet connection which garbles the output? IDK, all we got is this "kinda useless" bug description: "I clicked a button and its kinda useless".

SMH
 

VerticalBlank

VerticalBlank
VerticalBlank said:
Cool. I'm a bit busy helping out with EDDI right now but will try to get some time to implement this over the next few days.

Edit: We'll want an image with a white background for printing. I'll see what's available.
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Just to say that I haven't forgotten about this, but helping out with EDDI in advance of the 2.4 release has been taking up all my spare time.
 

VerticalBlank

VerticalBlank
StarLightPL said:
There are two things infinite, the universe and the user's stu... ingenuity. We're not so sure about the universe though.

Seriously tho, reread the instructions on the page and try again before calling something useless, a third party tool which cost someone's work, given to you for free. Maybe you're using some "kinda useless" controllers nobody has, thus not recognizable? Maybe you picked the wrong, "kinda useless" file? Maybe you're on "kinda useless" internet connection which garbles the output? IDK, all we got is this "kinda useless" bug description: "I clicked a button and its kinda useless".

SMH
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Thank you StarLightPL.

Since jgm hasn't delivered his promise to redirect his page to https://edrefcard.info/ I'm wondering if it's time for me to start a new thread and ask the mods to close this one and redirect to it.
 

Para Handy

Para Handy
VerticalBlank said:
Thank you StarLightPL.

Since jgm hasn't delivered his promise to redirect his page to https://edrefcard.info/ I'm wondering if it's time for me to start a new thread and ask the mods to close this one and redirect to it.
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Since the pages in this forum drop out of view quicker than a (very quick thing that doesn't get censored) I have posted the info about the new URL in the newcomer's forum. 1.) I hope you don't mind and 2) feel free to add or correct as you wish:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...bindings-Reference-Sheet-Generator-(ex-Mcdee)

Thanks for taking care of this great facility.

[hotas]
 

damntry

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Hey VerticalBlank, thanks for taking care of this utility.


One thing I noticed was that some time ago, jgm changed the default green modifier color to a more bright green, and this has been carried on to your server, naturally.

Old one: https://www.mcdee.net/elite/binds/xegpwd
Current: https://edrefcard.info/binds/kyusru

Personally I find the old one easier to the eyes. What do you think?

Also, have you though about setting up a favicon? It would make your site more recognizable between bookmarks.
 

VerticalBlank

VerticalBlank
damntry said:
Hey VerticalBlank, thanks for taking care of this utility.


One thing I noticed was that some time ago, jgm changed the default green modifier color to a more bright green, and this has been carried on to your server, naturally.

Old one: https://www.mcdee.net/elite/binds/xegpwd
Current: https://edrefcard.info/binds/kyusru

Personally I find the old one easier to the eyes. What do you think?
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I would say that EDRefCard is designed for printout so I'm inclined to go with whichever looks best on paper. I do know that there was some back and forth about this in the past.

damntry said:
Also, have you though about setting up a favicon? It would make your site more recognizable between bookmarks.
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Yes, I'd really like to have a good favicon but I'm not a graphic design person. I don't even have a design concept for an EDRefCard favicon. But I'm open to submissions.
 
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