Horizons Left Elite for 6 months, surprising result upon return.

[bkrownd]

It was faster before they added the mission giver pictures, which are, supposedly, PG, hence my complaint about having two of them on every mission board. The big one on the left should just be a faction symbol.

If they're PG it should be generated on the client side, and only once per session, right? Mission board always takes 15+ seconds to load for me, every time, although the first load does often requires extra time for the images to start showing up. (and I would love to get rid of the zombie circus of "mission giver" images)

 

[foebits]

I most likely would have helped earlier if the OP had said he had problems instead of trashing the game. I have found over the years of gaming that most of my issues are MY issues. Look at your setup or ask for help and explain the issues you are having and people will help. The attitude that I pay for a Super Duper internet connection so it's impossible that it me is ignorance in itself. I have a 60 mb connection and found out that I was getting a lot of output lad due to my router using the test in the link I gave in the last post.

Some are having issues with the game connections doesn't mean you will. Always assume the issues is with you until proven otherwise.

That I can get behind. I always assume they have already looked into such options. I suppose that's my weakness. Sorry for the miss understanding and being an ass.

 

[Pville_Piper]

No worries mate.

 

[Spacecat]

If they're PG it should be generated on the client side, and only once per session, right? Mission board always takes 15+ seconds to load for me, every time, although the first load does often requires extra time for the images to start showing up. (and I would love to get rid of the zombie circus of "mission giver" images)

Rep'd for "zombie circus", lol.

 

[Failtrainch00ch00]

Picked up Elite Dangerous, the game was generally taking every opportunity to pee me off, so I put it down for six months and returned.

Upon returning to the game this is what I discovered.

The experience is worse than ever before. Accessing the station services takes 30 - 45 seconds on a 200m/bit fibre connection.

Once in station services, the job board takes 20 - 30 seconds to open.

Opening a job takes another 15 - 20 seconds, plus you see it loading images in real time like a 1990 webpage on dial up.

Commodities market is the same deal.

So yeah that sucks worse than before. Even transitioning from super cruise to normal space, or another system sucks up your life.

Why is this still happening? Why does it feel like I'm still using pre-release alpha software?

I took at 1m credit job. Simple enough, be at X system between time X and Time X. Search signal sources for guy X. Get 4 tons precious stone.

Wasted an hour and a half of my life trying to find this guy at the time specified using the method stated.

This game needs years more of development work. This is a bigger piece of beta-like crap than Elite 3 was. I just wish there was a company to sue the crap out of them like last time.

Just logged in to say...this is ridiculous. Get a better internet connection. You're complaining to the wrong people.

Are there people who don't have to wait at least 15 seconds watching the little pinwheel spin each time the mission board loads? I've always assumed that's normal.

Heck no that's not normal.

 

[Col Blair]

Are there people who don't have to wait at least 15 seconds watching the little pinwheel spin each time the mission board loads? I've always assumed that's normal. It isn't downloading a lot of data, so it always seemed like a server load issue.

Mine is more like 10 seconds but some shorter some longer. We just updated to fiber connection on the ATT network. I get 3ms ping to the ATT server.

 

[Hexcaliber]

I am also having problems with network speed in game of late, trying to land on planets is probably the worst, and I know of several others in differing countries who are complaining. Its certainly not isolated, and it would not be surprising if we were to learn that bandwidth had been dialled back as load has reduced over time; we do not pay monthly subs to keep the servers up.

Not that it will really help, but the database and login servers are hosted by Amazon and are part of their cloud service based in N Ireland.

 

[Varrag]

I thought that the (increasingly) unresponsive data servers is well known issue which should be taken care of - asap. It's good to hear that some people with 100 mpbs connection -number FAR above the European average- aren't having such problem, but that's not really helpful for the rest of us.

 

[pipo zelvelder]

Ah, this old pantomime.

Yes, just because there are known issues server side it DOES NOT MEAN, that there are not also issues on the client side that cannot be worked out too. Then there are the multitude of random issues that can pop up between client and server nodes that neither side can do anything about such is the nature of the internet.

Your statement therefore comes under both the categories you have laid out, well done. Granted the two replies that followed the OP were too generalised and not much help, but they were not worthy of your post to them.

I have the same problems, but i am not complaining about that (I have lots of more important things to complain off...) So, it is me, too?

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Just logged in to say...this is ridiculous. Get a better internet connection. You're complaining to the wrong people.

Heck no that's not normal.

WELL, I have to wiat for almost 50 seconds for the spinning wheel on my 3-year old PC...

 

[Ian Phillips]

And yet here you are, assuming the very same, that just because there are other potential problems that they must be the cause of said issues. So.... try again? Perhaps after a bit more thought?

Thanks for all the help you offered and the support given to those actually offering help.

 

[Muss]

Picked up Elite Dangerous, the game was generally taking every opportunity to pee me off, so I put it down for six months and returned.

Upon returning to the game this is what I discovered.

The experience is worse than ever before. Accessing the station services takes 30 - 45 seconds on a 200m/bit fibre connection.

Once in station services, the job board takes 20 - 30 seconds to open.

Opening a job takes another 15 - 20 seconds, plus you see it loading images in real time like a 1990 webpage on dial up.

Commodities market is the same deal.

So yeah that sucks worse than before. Even transitioning from super cruise to normal space, or another system sucks up your life.

Why is this still happening? Why does it feel like I'm still using pre-release alpha software?

I took at 1m credit job. Simple enough, be at X system between time X and Time X. Search signal sources for guy X. Get 4 tons precious stone.

Wasted an hour and a half of my life trying to find this guy at the time specified using the method stated.

This game needs years more of development work. This is a bigger piece of beta-like crap than Elite 3 was. I just wish there was a company to sue the crap out of them like last time.

4.5Mb here
Outback Queensland Aus here
Occasional delays 10 - 15 seconds comming out of a jump.
You got serious network/hardware issues mate

 

[Failtrainch00ch00]

WELL, I have to wiat for almost 50 seconds for the spinning wheel on my 3-year old PC...

3 year old OC doesnt really mean anything, sorry. You could be talking about a prebuilt from Bestbuy with low end parts that was outdated at the time of purchase for all anyone knows. But I digress. My point is your issue is internet connection. I've had the spinner and a pause accessing station services but never longer than 10 seconds. Waiting 50 seconds is not normal, is not game design and is not the fault of the game.

 

[Dimensions]

I don't think you broadband speed has much to do with it at all. I have a free network monitor program in my system tray that I can look at if I want when playing ED. It shows live data received and sent data, it rarely goes above 25 kB/s for upload and download when playing. In fact it usually sit below 1 kB/s for both the majority of the time. Just under 10 kB/s for most instance transitions.

Technically you should be able to play most of ED on a dial-up modem (transiting some instances would be a bit longer than usual). The vast majority of data needed to play is already on your computer. This is the case for pretty much all MMOs I've played.

I'm not a computer guy, but logically that means the problem is not about the speed at which data can be sent and received, but the responsiveness between your computer and the ED server once it has received data. Essentially how long it takes to make and fulfil requests.

I usually have a very smooth gameplay experience, but I find this is mixed when it comes to opening up the galaxy map, mission board etc. I would say usually 10-15 secs to open, but sometimes for no discernible reason it can take 30sec - 1 min. Both can happen in the same play session. Since my computer hasn't changed I assume that it has to do with the responsiveness of the server.

I don't know if it is the p2p network, server, the coding, or all three. But I agree with the OP these features take way too long to open and is quite irritating after a while. Not really sure why it isn't pretty much instant. May be because the mission board is rng and the galaxy map needs to recheck system states etc? Whatever the reason we spend enough time jumping between systems and SC, without having to also wait for a window to pop up.

 

[Jools]

those issues are visible even on offficial FD streams/videos, and there is not a single other game that gives me issues like that

I have tried many fixes proposed since the alpha days.... they do not work... Servers and the netcode are crap and that is it

[video=youtube;sJnKzvOoDFw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJnKzvOoDFw[/video]


Just stop the goddamn B.S. Fanboys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

90`s load times - check
hyperspace stuttering - check
lack of seamlessness / long sC exit - check

Just stop it, you are hurting the game by covering up major problems

 

[sndle9]

those issues are visible even on offficial FD streams/videos, and there is not a single other game that gives me issues like that

I have tried many fixes proposed since the alpha days.... they do not work... Servers and the netcode are crap and that is it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJnKzvOoDFw


Just stop the goddamn B.S. Fanboys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

90`s load times - check
hyperspace stuttering - check
lack of seamlessness / long sC exit - check

Just stop it, you are hurting the game by covering up major problems

I don't dispute that you, and clearly many others have issues with the networking in this game, but people are not automatically fanboys just because they don't see the same issues and dare to mention this.

 

[foebits]

Just logged in to say...this is ridiculous. Get a better internet connection. You're complaining to the wrong people.

Heck no that's not normal.

You are a fool to assume its his connection. you're literally just saying this "All problems are inherently your fault because I'm not experiencing it and no other experience is at all valid".
I suggest sitting back and learning to look at more than just your armchair for answers.

 

[pipo zelvelder]

Well, maybe I should add that I have no problem whatsoever with the gameplay. When out of the station, or fighting, everything is OK. Only the start-up takes forever (first the wheel of shaders, then the wheel of compute shaders) and switching to mission board or starport services or Galaxy/System map can take minutes... This is also the case when coming out of hyperjump(or whatever), It takes a while to load the station, apparently

 

[Jukelo]

I don't dispute that you, and clearly many others have issues with the networking in this game, but people are not automatically fanboys just because they don't see the same issues and dare to mention this.

Have you watched the video Jools linked? Station menu delays have been ubiquitous since 2.1, it's mentioned all the time here and on reddit. I certainly don't believe anybody here claiming they don't have to wait several seconds for the mission board to open. It happens in the official Frontier streams, and certainly I'd assume they have better than average hardware as well as no latency or routing issues to their own stuff when making promotional videos.
As such, yes, for those saying the problem is the users, I can only assume it's a bad case of blind fanboyism. It's not like it's a rare condition around here.

I'd seriously love to see some footage of the mission board not taking 10 seconds to open, or of accepting a mission not leading to another 10 seconds of waiting.

 

[Chris Simon]

Well, maybe I should add that I have no problem whatsoever with the gameplay. When out of the station, or fighting, everything is OK. Only the start-up takes forever (first the wheel of shaders, then the wheel of compute shaders) and switching to mission board or starport services or Galaxy/System map can take minutes... This is also the case when coming out of hyperjump(or whatever), It takes a while to load the station, apparently

Could also be a slow HDD. If you have enough ram and decent CPU/GPU, the game itself can run perfectly smooth, but once it needs to pull data out of the hard drive (loading the game, opening a map, jumping,...) it hiccups.

 

[Elgered]

I am back after nearly a year of absence and I love most of the changes. For me, everything but the mission board runs perfectly smooth. The "new" mission board sometimes takes up to 30 seconds or tells me, that it was unable to connect at all. Very sad, if there is a mission very time critical (just seconds remaining), but usually no big deal.