yes, only played games online for 20 years so still getting my game on.
yes, only played games online for 20 years so still getting my game on.
I thought you are able to give other players credits already, if both are in the same station - docked?
I think this is pay to lose. I take a shiny new fully-loaded Anaconda out to play in Open with less than an hour of flying experience. How long do I last?
No they couldn't easily do that. 2MCr would require jettisoning approximately 102 canisters of Platinum (at about 19.5K each). The time limit for canisters survival in space amounts to just about the time it takes to scoop 20 canisters if you scoop them up in the fastest way possible. Meaning that gold seller can't just drop all 102 canisters at once, but need to drop jettison them as the buyer picks them up. Another issue is: where will the gold seller get the platinum? Platinum can't be bought, so he would have to mine them... which is way to ineffective. The next most expensive commodity, palladium, could be used more efficiently because it can just be bought. But that brings the price per canister down to no more than 14K a canister, meaning it would require jettisoning 142 canisters. And again he can't just jettison them all at once, but must wait for the buyer to pick up. A pretty cumbersome way for a 'gold' seller / buyer to do business.
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Sad but true, it's no nonsense - wake up into reality.
Robert Maynard
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Obviously. Are you suggesting the agreement is worthless unless the game is designed such that it's physically impossible to violate the terms and conditions? Kind of makes it pointless doesn't it?
It can be made easy for the buyer. I thought I remembered being able to buy platinum in B1, maybe I'm wrong... but let's say it's palladium:
- The cargo hatch ejects cargo in a consistent direction. I can't see behind me, but as far as I can see it flies away on the scanner in the same direction every time.
- With a wingman or two (needed anyway to provide security during a deal) in the same room as the cargo dropper, the correct alignment of ships can be assured.
- Client opens scoop and stays put, while the T9 feeds all the cargo they can carry as agreed by contract.
- repeat as needed via return trip to nearby station.
I didn't take long to think this scenario up, can you think of obvious flaws?
Ideas Man
Banned
Gold selling exists if a game is massively popular, this one isn't, and also if a game has ridiculously poorly designed money sinks in it which this one does, so the potential for abuse is there for sure.
I know we can never talk about other games but other games have already addressed this issue in a variety of ways because games have evolved and learned lessons since 1984 you see.
I know we can never talk about other games but other games have already addressed this issue in a variety of ways because games have evolved and learned lessons since 1984 you see.
daan2002
Banned
selling ingame money in most games will get you a ban hammer so go sell your cargo on ebay see what happens
One way round the gold farming issue possibly, might be to allow a credit voucher, from one player to another, but only in limited amounts, which like bounties can only be collected by the person who received it, and redeemed at stations and added only to your account.
If the values are relatively small, and limited, would not be worth selling out of game.
If the values are relatively small, and limited, would not be worth selling out of game.
daan2002
Banned
then how does star trek online have them ? because that game is not popular
selling ingame money in most games will get you a ban hammer so go sell your cargo on ebay see what happens
So there's no need to worry about gold sellers then. Glad we can tick that one off, it seems to be the only objection on the table.
It exists in each and every game that makes such activity possible, not just popular ones.
Ideas Man
Banned
It is since it went F2P, popular enough anyway.
If a game has no players you will find no established gold selling market, people don't sell in games where there is no one to buy.
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Can you name me a few of the games you are thinking of please, I am interested in checking their numbers, thanks.
What's the problem with pirates asking for credits? Seems like traders just say that cause they want less risk. What's he problem? Make it a bankable offense to sell credits for real money and they can keep an eye on it. Not doing something cause you're afraid of some small consequence doesn't make much sense to me. Can't transfer money in 3301?
Puh-leeze.
Puh-leeze.