Lets test this persistent universe and see if FD are true to their word.

Quick Q as I am interested: Does your contributions count if you are in a Private Group? I.e., do you need to be in open to play to affect this?

Welcome and yes it does, servers should sync once per day. Thats also the reason why you have to be online in single player.
 
My understanding is that conflict zones do not show up for 'Civl War'...a war between factions within a station. They show up when a War occurs. (this is discussed in the pre release dev notes on the background simulation..and this might have changed from those notes...but I haven't seen anything that dismisses this idea..or I missed it in the forums)

Changed in 1.05

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Wasn't in 1.05, but in the 16.01. Webserver update. See here
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=100129&p=1553584&viewfull=1#post1553584
 
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Michael Brookes

Game Director
This will not be the case in those situations that are injected by the devs, i.e. the Onionhead conflict. Those will break whatever way the devs feel tells the story they are highlighting..these should just be considered credit making opportunities.

This is incorrect, we use the results to guide where the story goes.

Michael
 
Listen to orfeboy - this is about this one system becoming entirely independent smack bang in the middle of federation space. When CSG take this system it'll be damned interesting to see how the simulation handles it. Lugh will be freed. That is enough. If other parties wish to do similar I just might join them in their fight for freedom but it'll be theirs and not CSGs expansion and imposed freedom. Am I right?

That is pretty much it. My original intention was to free Lugh. After that to spread Lugh's fire to the galaxy but not as an expanding Empire. After the French revolution the French offered assistance to any nation that wanted to break the chains of their oppressors. That is what I see Lugh doing should it become free. I would like to champion the causes of the independent factions in our surrounding systems and do the same for them. To grow this ball of independents like a cancer in the middle of Federation space. There are also opportunities there to expand on the Lugh story as there are many systems close by with names that tie into the Lugh mythos. For example there are Fionn, Medb, Sheela na Gig, Eranin, Aulin, Crom, Tara to name but a few... :)
 
No, that was never the plan. The idea here was to free systems not expand them. What are we fighting this for? Do you want to become the Federation? That is such an obvious thing to do. try to think outside the box here. We have the opportunity to do something completely different here. That was the reason I started this. I am remaining true to the original idea. If others try to do this I will actively work against you, you have my promise on that. There are 400,000,000,000 systems out there if you want to do that pick one. leave Lugh out of it.

Well... I thought the plan was to test the game mechanics ?
Flipping a system is a part of it. Expansion is another part of it. ^^

EDIT: Oh and by the way... Maybe it's time to rename the thread, don't you think ? I'm quite sure that FD are true to their word. :D
 
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Not sure if you've all seen this:

Hi everyone,

I’m sure you’re all familiar with the GalNet newsfeed in game and how we’re using it to provide updates on the various storylines currently active in game. We want to expand the newsfeed to include more player generated news and particularly upcoming events. As part of this process you can submit a news item for consideration by posting in this thread. To submit a news item simply post with the following:

- Date and time for the news item/event
- Title – this should be brief and include the location
- Description – This should be no more than 150 words
- Commander Name

There are a few rules that need to be followed for submissions:

- Only submit a news item once
- We’ll pick which items are suitable – don’t be offended if we don’t use yours!
- We will edit the text if needed to make it fit with the game
- Legal protection – we own the copyright of the text we use in game

I look forward to receiving your news and events!

Michael

...but when anything interesting happens we should make use of this to keep our struggle in the news, so to speak. We haven't really coordinated timed events so far, but we should consider it where appropriate.
 
Well... I thought the plan was to test the game mechanics ?
Flipping a system is a part of it. Expansion is another part of it. ^^

EDIT: Oh and by the way... Maybe it's time to rename the thread, don't you think ? I'm quite sure that FD are true to their word. :D

Or u can bring anyone that wants to engage in indepdant expansion out to the frigne to pand and help me expand its influence over multiple solar systems .... 6 terraforming candidates, empty nearby systems. We are also testing trade and as many elements as we can that extend beyond the scope of the lugh experiment
 
Well... I thought the plan was to test the game mechanics ?
Flipping a system is a part of it. Expansion is another part of it. ^^

I don't think that orfeboy has any issue if others want to continue the fight beyond Lugh and assist CSG in expanding - I'm sure he'll say if that's not correct. I'm pretty certain the testing of the expansion mechanics is happening in another system.

I personally won't assist in expansions (unless it helps another cause I'm supporting at the time), but would rather help other systems free themselves from Federation or Imperial rule. I know there are some in this thread that are assisting because they're purely anti-fed, and others want to pursue CSG's expansion beyond the Lugh system - and that is all fine, our goals are currently aligned.

As soon as my goals are no longer aligned with Lugh's, I'll be moving on. (cue: "Littlest Hobo" theme...)
 
Well... I thought the plan was to test the game mechanics ?
Flipping a system is a part of it. Expansion is another part of it. ^^

EDIT: Oh and by the way... Maybe it's time to rename the thread, don't you think ? I'm quite sure that FD are true to their word. :D

I've always suspected that testing the game mechanics was a side effect, that by flipping the Lugh system we would be testing an aspect of the game mechanics.

Agreed on renaming the thread, and if it's possible I do think moving it to the Groups section of the forum with an "[INDEPENDENT]" title prefix would be smart.

Anyway, let's not get too distracted about discussing secondary objectives and follow-on objectives. I'm interested in getting that civil war going in Sesuang but I don't want to derail the Lugh revolution!
 
I don't think that orfeboy has any issue if others want to continue the fight beyond Lugh and assist CSG in expanding - I'm sure he'll say if that's not correct. I'm pretty certain the testing of the expansion mechanics is happening in another system.

I personally won't assist in expansions (unless it helps another cause I'm supporting at the time), but would rather help other systems free themselves from Federation or Imperial rule. I know there are some in this thread that are assisting because they're purely anti-fed, and others want to pursue CSG's expansion beyond the Lugh system - and that is all fine, our goals are currently aligned.

As soon as my goals are no longer aligned with Lugh's, I'll be moving on. (cue: "Littlest Hobo" theme...)

Changing a thread title is not possible on this forum.

Actually I do have a problem with expanding CSG. Are the oppressed now to become the oppressors? Unless it is an uninhabited world I think it is wrong to encourage expansion. In game terms at least in this current scenario. There are lots of threads doing that. I don't want this to be just another boring expansion thread among the rest. I want this to be different. Better to give other systems a leg up and help them go independent and rule themselves. Why are people so hell bent on this expansion thing? Were you all Romans in a past life?

People are looking for a way to affect the game in a meaningful way. For me that is to make a big noise in the galaxy. Go against the norm. Don't play the Empire, Alliance, Federation game. I like the idea of being anti-Empire. If you want to have a meaningful impact on the game then the way to do that is break the mould and achieve what the devs had not planned for. Get into Galnet. Create a hole in the Federation. Force the main storyline of this game to seek you out and become central to what is going on. Don't just be another number and another mini Empire expansion thread. You may not realise it now but that will very soon be very old hat. This is something very different and more original in my opinion.

I of course am only one person and I cannot control what other players do. I can give my opinion but there are many more here than just me. I cannot control their actions. What I can do however is try to stop them.
 
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Why are people so hell bent on this expansion thing? Were you all Romans in a past life?

Please lets stay friendly and cultivatet here. Throwing such words on people who actually spend very much of their free time for you and your project here doesnt diserve this.

Because expansion is a game mechanic as part of the background simulation feautured in elite dangerous and as this game is new people just want to test out what is possible and what isnt. Just like playing with a new toy. I think most of the people here in this thread joined this experiment because they got fascinated about the idea of trying to get the federation out of an independent system and change ownership (even just to try out if this is possible) with all the tools we got from FD to play with and experiment (like me). I wouldnt play elite dangerous anymore if there werent such projects like the lugh one you started (also to mention mikunn, panda and all the others) because there isnt much content for now besides the background simulation (which i was excited about long before the game was released). The story you created around the lugh experiment is also very appealing (even if you seem to put in a lot of your background tradition and nativity into it... my english :) ) but you cant blame people which actually took big effort into this to be imperialists or something. This guys here, the core players are just interested in the game mechanic and they arent the casual "Praise the emperor" lets go and wipe the federation out of the whole galaxy guys. Fact is that we have come to a point in this experiment where expansion seems obvious in lugh if we just take it by influence and thats why i mentioned it yesterday but without the plan to push it and take effort into it now. Yes i played long before with the idea that we could expand to a neighbour system and for example take the place of a federal faction we wiped out (just out of interest and not in an imperial manner). And again my goal from the beginning till now is the purpose to suppress the federation out of lugh. If we manage to end the presents of federation here in lugh i might do something else or even quit and wait for new content.

So lets stop this stupid discussions about expansion now and lets focus again to our main goals. You can do this afterwards.
 
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So lets stop this stupid discussions about expansion now and lets focus again to our main goals. You can do this afterwards.

I agree we need to move on but I do think clarification on this point was definitely required. It's very interesting that once a finish line is somewhat in sight the original vision is distorted and ideas of power and expansion begin take hold.

I wonder how many times in human history has the dreams of the original visionary been lost because of this same behaviour....
 
I agree we need to move on but I do think clarification on this point was definitely required. It's very interesting that once a finish line is somewhat in sight the original vision is distorted and ideas of power and expansion begin take hold.

I wonder how many times in human history has the dreams of the original visionary been lost because of this same behaviour....

I think you take this a bit to serious. Most of them just want to experiment with the game mechanic and see how and what is possible. But there are also others here for sure and even if they are we have to respect eachother.
 
I think you take this a bit to serious. Most of them just want to experiment with the game mechanic and see how and what is possible. But there are also others here for sure and even if they are we have to respect eachother.

I think you're being too Sirius (sorry, couldn't help myself)

Nah just observing that's all. Experimenting with the game mechanic is cool. It's just that expansion/empire building is gonna be done a lot that's all. This one is kinda different and would be a shame this late in the game if the original brief wasn't adhered to.
 
I think you're being too Sirius (sorry, couldn't help myself)

Nah just observing that's all. Experimenting with the game mechanic is cool. It's just that expansion/empire building is gonna be done a lot that's all. This one is kinda different and would be a shame this late in the game if the original brief wasn't adhered to.

Yes we all know that this isnt something new. But are starting to cry now only because CSG would expand for example to some neighbour systems caused by the game mechanic which seems to trigger expansion at an amount of influence ?

And yes if i play a game i take it serious. If i play quake 3 1on1 i will try to win etc..

But lets stop this for now and focus on the main goal.
 
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