Lets test this persistent universe and see if FD are true to their word.

The galaxy map is updated separately to the details in the system map. Flipping a Federation system doesn't mean that the Federation stop their claim on the system!

Michael


Unrelated, but there is an inconsistency between galaxy map and system map regarding population numbers. Seems like a display bug. For large population systems (for example 'He Bo') in the galaxy you got rounded up correct number, and the system map it says something like 4,400,000,000 (don't remember the exact number). I ticketed it twice but got long lost in the queue and removed on the wipe you did a couple weeks ago.
 
Michael, now thatwe are nearly at 90% influence can you confirm that everything is working as it should? I would have thought there would be political changes and take overs taking place in Lugh by now. I understand certain criteria must be achieved for changes to happen but at 90% it seems unlikely that there would not be a big swing in one direction. I am not asking for an explanation of the system. Just a simple yes or no would be fine. I realise that doing fixes is still ongoing.
 
Michael one question about colonization of new worlds. Does it currently makes sense to sell exploration data of unexplored earth-like worlds to a faction in the hope that it will do something with the data some day. Is there a game mechanic build in the current state of the game for this atm ?
 
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Michael, now thatwe are nearly at 90% influence can you confirm that everything is working as it should? I would have thought there would be political changes and take overs taking place in Lugh by now. I understand certain criteria must be achieved for changes to happen but at 90% it seems unlikely that there would not be a big swing in one direction. I am not asking for an explanation of the system. Just a simple yes or no would be fine. I realise that doing fixes is still ongoing.

This is just a guess but maybe only a single state can be active per faction per system at any given time. Has anyone seen 2 active states running simultaneously? This would mean that civil war can never occur while a boom or other state is active.
 
Unrelated, but there is an inconsistency between galaxy map and system map regarding population numbers. Seems like a display bug. For large population systems (for example 'He Bo') in the galaxy you got rounded up correct number, and the system map it says something like 4,400,000,000 (don't remember the exact number). I ticketed it twice but got long lost in the queue and removed on the wipe you did a couple weeks ago.

It's not unrelated, he said the galaxy map uses a different data set to the system data, and they are looking at improving the feed from one to the other.
 

Michael Brookes

Game Director
Michael, now thatwe are nearly at 90% influence can you confirm that everything is working as it should? I would have thought there would be political changes and take overs taking place in Lugh by now. I understand certain criteria must be achieved for changes to happen but at 90% it seems unlikely that there would not be a big swing in one direction. I am not asking for an explanation of the system. Just a simple yes or no would be fine. I realise that doing fixes is still ongoing.

It looks reasonable. You've just won a civil war and are now in a boom state. You're currently heading for a lockdown.

Michael
 
So i assume that means CSG was still in a civil war cooldown period before boom state was triggered for about 2 weeks ago and because of that we couldnt trigger civil war with LFE. And this also means a civil war cooldown lasts more then 3 weeks because we triggered civil war ( i think with LDF here in Lugh ) before christmas. So taking ownership of all stations for CSG and flipping the whole system could be a long time goal of minimun 4 months (with all the civil war cooldowns) as there are still 4 stations owned by LFE and in the worst case if the controlling station might be Cavendish Ring. Anyway we have to sit out both Boom states as only one state is possible at one time before we can trigger civil war again.
I also assume our current pending state civil war with LDF ist still the cooldown period.

Thx for the infos !

This all feels correct, based on what we are seeing. A question I am wondering about is how the queue is cleared. Is it left to right, does any state take precedence over another, or is it random choice from the pending list? Is it really 4 weeks cool down between station flips or do the other pending states interfere with the queue and add time to the flip? If the former it currently feels long/harsh. If the latter, then better mission management will be needed over time.

Darn! ninja'ed by Mike! https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=71327&p=1632689&viewfull=1#post1632689
 
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Michael, the missions lately all seem to be randomly producing lockdown results. Missions that before never provided these results. Infact it seems that nothing we can do now is safe from a lockdown result. Delivering simple copper upon request is producing lockdown results. Is this normal and how the system should work? Also, there seems very little in the missions that reduce lockdown. Is this also by design? If so then we need to figure out how to counter it but from what we have seen so far it is not imediately obvious.

It is my theory that bounty hunting within the system will reduce tension and thus the likelyhood of lockdown.

Oh and just one question. If a state appears as pending is that now a forgone conclusion or can that state be fended off?
 
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Maybe a lockdown situation is needed before a Civil war starts?

Civil war is triggered through influence movement differentials. So improving one against another minor faction should trigger a civil war - assuming that not other state is interfering. If the faction has been in a civil war then there is a cooldown period before it can enter a civil war again.

Lockdowns have nothing to do with civil wars, they are their own state.

Michael

Michael used his powers of premonition to answer your question earlier today :)
 
So i assume that means CSG was still in a civil war cooldown period before boom state was triggered for about 2 weeks ago and because of that we couldnt trigger civil war with LFE. And this also means a civil war cooldown lasts more then 3 weeks because we triggered civil war ( i think with LDF here in Lugh ) before christmas. So taking ownership of all stations for CSG and flipping the whole system could be a long time goal of minimun 4 months (with all the civil war cooldowns) as there are still 4 stations owned by LFE and in the worst case if the controlling station might be Cavendish Ring. Anyway we have to sit out both Boom states as only one state is possible at one time before we can trigger civil war again.
I also assume our current pending state civil war with LDF ist still the cooldown period.

Thx for the infos !

Sounds like fun... :(
 
Incoming changes....for those that have hostility problems with LFE:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=105117&p=1633276&viewfull=1#post1633276

While the thread is closed I can post a few comments. We have no intention of preventing murder within the game, that is valid gameplay choice - however there should be consequences for such actions which the game needs some tightening on. For 1.1 the following changes will be in place which will help alleviate these situations:

- Dumbfire missiles are too overpwoered - these will be balanced down.
- Point Defense Turrets shouldn't be able to trigger station response
- Shield cells too powerful - these will be balanced down
- Docking will be revoked if you're marked as hostile by the station

We'll continue to monitor and balance as needed and discussion like this is useful for us - without the name calling of course!

Thanks

Michael
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Our docking privileges are being revoked with update 1.1! OH noes! :eek:
 
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Update.

Lockdown critical for CSG (we dont want this state to happen) ! Dont do missions increasing lockdown and dont import non-lethal weapons !


Crimson State Group 88.5% (+0.8%)
Lugh for Equality 11.1% (-0.8%)
Dominion of Lugh 0.1%
Lugh Defence Force 0.2%
Silver Natural 0.1%


Lugh for Equality are currently in a Boom state and pending Boom (with red pointer down now).

Crimson State Group are currently in a Boom state and pending Boom, Civil War (cooldown) and Lockdown critical.

Lugh Defence Force are pending Civil War (cooldown).

PS: Looking forward to see how long our Boom (respectively LFE's Boom) will last and if we are still in Civil War cooldown afterwards.
 
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I suggest we stop doing missions all together and only trade until this lockdown goes away. The way I see it we are just going to get lockdown results no matter what we do. Stop feeding the problem and just trade!
 
Doe anyone know what lockdown means yet. Been desperately trying to find out, or was there another post I didn't see :).

Yes look on page 114 of this thread.

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I suggest we stop doing missions all together and only trade until this lockdown goes away. The way I see it we are just going to get lockdown results no matter what we do. Stop feeding the problem and just trade!

Same here as missions seem to be too unpredictable for the moment (till we understand the mechanic behind it) !

PS: Have there been always sold personal weapons in Sesuang system at Carter Hub ?
 
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I suggest we stop doing missions all together and only trade until this lockdown goes away. The way I see it we are just going to get lockdown results no matter what we do. Stop feeding the problem and just trade!

I have been doing missions for most of the afternoon from Balandin Gateway and Read Gateway and I haven't had a single Lockdown result. However seeing as we're so close to 100% influence for CSG I would personally err on the 'safe' side of things.
 
I suggest we stop doing missions all together and only trade until this lockdown goes away. The way I see it we are just going to get lockdown results no matter what we do. Stop feeding the problem and just trade!

If what sirius42 suggested is true (that the boom state has to end before civil war can commence), it would mean that trading also staves off revolution. Could the best course of action be to do nothing at all? :p

Better update the front page post in any case. Maybe make a box that stands out with 'Current Strategy'?
 
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