Live stream format change - Ed
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I was proving your point that EVE gets more viewers than Elite, and disproving your point that Elite gets a max of 200 viewers.
Running away from problems will not make them go away.
Yep, thats what happens when you dont have a Delta Squadron protection wing.
I could link you the several streams which were in open and which were fun and where Ed was protected - not that you'd notice.... because we do a proper job.
Disagreed.
It would be showing there are alternatives. Private Groups are as much part of the game as gankers. Perhaps starting a stream in Open, and when one of the mouthbreathers show up, he goes: well, I am not really in the mood for not having fun tonight, so I'll just log into the great Mobius Private Group and continue my stream.
Really, this! +virtual rep...
Hence the upcoming C&P changes.
A small group of PvP players seem intend on making everything about them.
"Look ma, they pay attention to me! They acknowledged my existence with a sigh of mild annoyance!"
Its not something to be applauded. Due sympathy must be given, and then the situation must be fixed.
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Dude, we got it. Delta Squadron is awesome.
Two things though: 1) the two specific livestreams we are discussing here were on PS4 -- do you have PS4 Delta Squadron people? 2) more importantly, the fact that Ed could have asked you for help, does not mean that it's OK to streamsnipe him as soon as he logs into Open, on whatever platform he's playing on. This is just a variant of "well, get better shields" argument.
Well said. Running away from gankers still leaves the gankers to interdict you again, and again.
Remove the problem by going into a Private Group and you got an uncle named Bob
They try to. If everyone left open to go private then you are giving them what they want.
I however think we can do better than that.
Lets make Open great again!
I agree with the Op. Ed should move to a private group. It is what they are for.
But but but but, isn't it about the fun of emergent gameplay? Its truly wonderful to see the variety of excuses being paddled to be a stream-snipe apologist.
Errr, I exclusively play Open. Last couple of weeks in my Viper. Doesnt mean I have to applaud these tragic individuals.
How do you figure that? Because that's not what I'm hearing.
They get quite irate just mentioning the word Mobius.
Just needs a 5min delay on the stream.
Even if C&P was in the game, that would still not solve the problem of stream sniping/Ganking Ed/Host/activity.
If the stream is not about ganking, then it should be streamed via a private group to ensure the content is delivered.
When I broadcast a conference for my customers on features in our software, I don't open the office door to let random people come in and disrupt the conference.
Look at live news, there is alway some complete idiot trying to get on the TV 'Hey look it's me' just after attention. Hence why steps should be taken to stop the disruption.
If the stream is not about ganking, then it should be streamed via a private group to ensure the content is delivered.
When I broadcast a conference for my customers on features in our software, I don't open the office door to let random people come in and disrupt the conference.
Look at live news, there is alway some complete idiot trying to get on the TV 'Hey look it's me' just after attention. Hence why steps should be taken to stop the disruption.
All your points have been excellent.
The reason stream sniping still happens during Frontier livestreams is because Frontier has done nothing to make those stream snipers fear Frontier. By that I mean, Frontier should have stomped all over the stream snipers - and publicly - to set a stern example of what to expect if you're wanting to be a stream-sniping scrub.
I'm afraid this reflects on what is happening elsewhere in the game when playing in Open. Basically you cannot take part in a CG or visit a high-profile location or you'll suffer from griefing. Frontier (Brett C) has stated "anything goes" in Open; there's no rules against it - although you're saying there are if the victim is a streamer?!. So having some numpty come along and ruin the stream ganking you is pretty much an accurate reflection of what will and often does happen in game. This is the fault of the game not having a viable functioning law-and-order system.
If it did, Ed could stream from a high-security system and not worry. Cause a wanted CMDR wouldn't get far into the system and a griefer would be put down instantly by the Feds. But that isn't the case.
Instead, players have to avoid game modes rather than lawless systems, since it is in effect a lawless game currently. A stream is just an identifiable location to grief, the same as a crash site or CG station.
We've been told that there's no such thing as griefing, that anything goes in Open and if we don't like it, play in Solo. I guess that advice is it's own Karma system.
Nah. Using the block feature however that gets their backs up.
Partly this seems to be because DB and the top devs seem very much clueless as to what modern multiplayer gaming is. DB confusion when asked if ED would go to steam (what is Steam, is it a big thing?) for example shows they are rather out of the loop. When you hear them talk about online gameplay they describe fun stuff with zero acknowledgement of what kind of problems online gaming has and how those can be solved.
This. They dont even need to be super tough, Ed could have just blocked the guy...