sounds like you need to buy another game.
this one has engineering, and just because you refuse to accept it, it's still there.
Make it hard
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this one has engineering, and just because you refuse to accept it, it's still there.
Funny, this entire thread is about "I don't like the game the way it is, so change it." Maybe YOU need to buy another game, because I'm (relatively) happy with NPCs the way they are.
you just complained about them...LoL
Urk. Please leave the FSD mods, power plant mods and lightweight effects. I like my efficient lasers too.
Yes yes, everybody likes their easy mode. Don't worry, Engineers are here to stay. Now perhaps if we made Engineered modules usable in Open-only....
I couldnt care less about the engineer crapshow if it just was optional. And if players had a choice over difficulty that would basically solve the whole excrement show for me. I just wouldnt need to bother about the crap and still enjoy the game. Without touching other players' precious pride and accomplishment illusion.
You do have the option of swapping the T9 for a Cutter and swatting the NPC Anaconda like an annoying bug... It is a lot more expensive, true, but.. well. T9s are never going to handle combat.
No need to make up a fantasy galaxy at all, that is the strong point of having 3 modes, we can actually decide who we wish to play with if we so desire.
I don't have any issue with PvP, or even with ganking (I can't cast the first stone), as we all play the game the way we wish. But there is no need to "learn the game" as you so aptly put it, just one click when starting the game removes to possibility of those encounters entirely
I think disposing of open would cure all of the current issues...
but, great idea, provided high-level NPC's and the ships in CZ's only used engineering in open only too
Oh the old GIT GUD SCRUB argument. How imaginative.
Lacking any kind of imposed narrative the purpose of ED is up to the player. So if I want to play Space Trucker I should be able to. Until I get bored. Meanwhile you make the point that you can kill an Anaconda in a Viper. Great... Good for you. I imagine you could do it in a T9 too? If not, good luck making a profit trading in a viper.
Heh... I could fit a T9 with an 8A shield generator, 8A cell bank and the rest hull reinforcements, but then it wouldn't be much good for trucking!
It actually is possible to knock out an Anaconda (in particular) with a well-engineered Viper (or Courier in my case) because the small ship is nimble enough to run circles around the slug-like Anaconda and fast enough to get out of range of the guns. It wouldn't be particularly quick, or efficient, in most scenarios though
My CMDR can make a living and a killing, all at the same time, from cargo missions.
It might end bullet sponge NPCs, at the cost of the viability of hybrid and shieldless loadouts, but it wouldn't solve the underlying problems of NPC impersistence and behavior.
I certainly can, and I don't imagine CenturionPunch would have any difficulties with any single human NPC foe while piloting a T9 either.
Shields are a waste on a combat trader.
Heh.
"Why are these silly NPCs so weak vs. my personal scaled-down Imperial Star Destroyer???!!! Make 'em tufffer!!!!"
I want to see this. It has to be a cargo-hauling T9, not a combat T9 filled with HRPs. Give it at least 720 tons of cargo space. Post video below.
BTW, I'm not mocking you (Mr. Viper, on the other hand...), I genuinely want to see this battle. That's assuming by "beat" you mean destroy and not high wake to escape.
It actually is possible to knock out an Anaconda (in particular) with a well-engineered Viper (or Courier in my case) because the small ship is nimble enough to run circles around the slug-like Anaconda and fast enough to get out of range of the guns. It wouldn't be particularly quick, or efficient, in most scenarios though
I totally get that a viper can wreck an Anaconda. I would suggest that a T9 would struggle, and a Viper can't trade. Different ships for different jobs.
I'm going to give volume trading a rest for a bit though.
736 tons of cargo still leaves room for acceptable module protection and almost 4500 hull integrity with ~45% across the board resists. The main issue is it's sluggishness, but with 720 tons cargo capacity, I can fit a fighter hangar, and I can shoot down almost any NPC with any fixed beam fighter, without much difficulty.
I'm willing to make a demonstration video, but it will have to wait until I'm done messing with the T-6, or at least until I can get someone to relieve it of it's cargo.
This build would be capable of removing an Anaconda quite reasonably, and runs cool enough to be problematic to target too
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I've had the pleasure of being assisted in some of my wars by some extremely capable players, and have seen first hand just how quickly and efficiently NPCs can be dispatched with the right combination of equipment and player ability. I can obtain the equipment, but using that equipment requires a level of concentration & accuracy that I struggle to maintain.
Balancing Thermal Conduit beams with enough heat to do meaningful damage without the ship modules falling apart is something I can see needs to be done, and I can see how to do it (ways to heat the ship & ways to cool it) but in an actual battle I end up failing to maintain that balance for long & module repair just becomes another consumable that defeats the benefit of using lasers instead of ammo based weapons, or I do too little damage and kills take much longer.
It can be done, it is not easy.
I was thinking about this topic earlier, and making NPCs harder (in a CZ, where most of my combat is done) is fair enough, making them easier is too. It's a level playing field & what matters is how many more are killed by the winner than the loser (both players). But there would be a point on the difficulty scale where it may become impossible for one player to kill anything, while above a certain ability they can be killed. This favours & rewards skill which is good, but locks less combat oriented players out of wars. That point where anything can be killed at all is the important metric I think, and I think where it is now (ie CZs are not for newbies in newbie ships but can be accessible by newbies with decent ships) is okay.
Balancing Thermal Conduit beams with enough heat to do meaningful damage without the ship modules falling apart is something I can see needs to be done, and I can see how to do it (ways to heat the ship & ways to cool it) but in an actual battle I end up failing to maintain that balance for long & module repair just becomes another consumable that defeats the benefit of using lasers instead of ammo based weapons, or I do too little damage and kills take much longer.
It can be done, it is not easy.
I was thinking about this topic earlier, and making NPCs harder (in a CZ, where most of my combat is done) is fair enough, making them easier is too. It's a level playing field & what matters is how many more are killed by the winner than the loser (both players). But there would be a point on the difficulty scale where it may become impossible for one player to kill anything, while above a certain ability they can be killed. This favours & rewards skill which is good, but locks less combat oriented players out of wars. That point where anything can be killed at all is the important metric I think, and I think where it is now (ie CZs are not for newbies in newbie ships but can be accessible by newbies with decent ships) is okay.