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I have had notoriety (level 2) once. I accidentally exploded 15 passenger liners. Finger slipped. Anyway, I quite liked that I was being hounded through various systems. I felt the rozzers understood that there had been a misunderstanding though as they only sent things like Cobra MkIII's with tissue shields to get me. I was in a Python, full Chuck Norris shields and weapons. Some variety would have been good.
Make it hard
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Oh, i remember once having a go at a wing of 9 sidewinders. That was actually scarier than i expected it to be.
I don't know, I haven't used a carrier yet
What faction are the police in the carrier instance?
Of course. But this should happen irrespective of your combat rank. Elite or Harmless, the scaling should be based on notoriety only.
I got taken out in an Orca by a wing of 8 sidewinders years ago. It was fun
I was interdicted by a wing of 3 earlier today (ambient NPCs I think), an AspX & two Adders. I was in a trade Python.
I would prefer that yes. I'm not a fan of combat rank based threat level, rank & player ability are only loosely related.
Even just a bit of variety in NPC opponents would be nice. Does literally every single Elite pirate lord drive a Corvette, every Deadly one an Anaconda and every Dangerous one a Python? Because it sure seems like it (except the 'Wing' Elite pirate lords who literally ALL drive FDLs, with the only variety there being 'are there 2 or 3 vultures')
Why make it so?
I'm close to elite on 1 of my accounts, it doesn't make me any good, it is just recognising that I have blown up X number of NPC ships to equate to Y number of elite ones - just another box ticked, just by filling a bucket
I won't suddently make me an amazing flying 'instant death if you look sideways at me' pilot - combat rank is no different to exploration or trading, once the bucket is full it will be awarded - elite combat just takes longer (Not saying that I won't be quite pleased with myself getting there, combat is certainly the most boring of the three!)
Thats what I mean, mix it up. An engineered Sidewinder is actually quite potent- and the exact opposite of a big 3 face tanking sponge. But at the same time make the opponent you face unique too- missions are notoriously one dimensional as well as bounty hunters and pirates.
No it should not- an Elite rank should (from the NPCs perspective) make me a seasoned pilot who knows what he is doing and thus make those NPCs challenging me stronger to compensate.
No, if you are hostile with the controlling faction in a system the enforcement ships can (and do) greet your arrival with guns blazing every time you come in to dock... The FC ignores them
If you've been bad, or defected from a Power you should be pursued like a dog- otherwise its a bit pointless because no NPC can catch you, interdict you successfully or really ambush you. The best that happens is they pop up at an inconvenient time- its only when three pop up you take notice of them.
'Just don't fly a deathmachine' implies a serious self-handicap, because almost anything not deliberately built to fail constitutes a 'deathmachine' against any organic NPC threat.
It's easier to find an organic PvP challenge than it is to find a largely non-existent PvE challenge.
I disagree. As flawed as Elite: Dangerous is, there are no other games, in a beta or later state of development, in a similar genre, that present equivalent or better PvP opportunities. There are some that do pitched battles and other carefully balanced tactical encounters better, but that's one narrow spectrum of PvP, and such limited experiences are not what I'm primarily looking for.
The more difficult NPCs are already bullet sponges, and there are limited avenues to make them more durable while still having them play by the same rules as CMDRs (which they absolutely should.
It should not be difficult to change NPC tactics and included higher permutations of tactics to better respond to player actions and take better advantage of the same mechanisms players regularly use for their CMDRs. I would be surprised if the AI programmers couldn't make an NPC that doesn't need to break any rules to be a much better pilot than I. I want to have to run from, setup an ambush for, or need a gank wing to bring down the best of the best.
The scaling should be based on a rational interpretation of the threat posed. This is far more than just the severity of one's crimes.
Wow, so if true, those playing the non-horizons version get slammed by engineered NPCs. Just another great 'design feature' of the game I guess. Sheesh...
I'd most certainly like to see more variety.
Ok, do you actually expect FD to do anything about this?
If you answer yes, then ok, the campaign for it might have merit.
If you answer no, then its your choice. Either continue faceplanting NPCs or give yourself a challenge.
"Just don't play good" is the saddest excuse-making I've ever seen.
No, but only because I'm a jaded cynic and FD doesn't seem to do much of anything about anything with regard to improving mechanisms that already exist.
But they might!
But that's actually the opposite of what i'm saying. I'm saying play better by giving yourself the challenge you want. Require yourself to actually face some risk in combat, that is, if you want it.
Again, if you really think FD will do something about it, then ok. But if you are as jaded and cynical as some, then this is all just blah blah blah, and the only way you are getting the challenge, if you really want it, is to do it yourself.
I tried the unarmed FA off canyon racer vs. RES the other day:
Got old pretty fast, but wasn't as bad as just taking off my glasses or sitting on my hands.