Make Open Play matter - Power Play and BGS should be influenced only in open

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It's going at a slow pace, but Frontier are making the job easier and easier every day by failing to provide lots of single players any motivation for playing in OPEN as a multiplayer experience - as well as by providing them with pretty much all the tools of the multiplayer in SOLO (just need a bit of AI to fill the gaps for certain things and there'll be no competition). Hopefully, soon, OPEN will be dead.

That feeling when Colonia becomes a beacon of non-salty, good humored Open Play preferred players. :unsure:
 
Unless FD rewrite Powerplay (which is always a good thing...hopefully) this is outside of the scope of whats available. You are describing (loosely) how the new CZs work, imposing win and lose states based on closed situations. In Powerplay none of that exists, as its all unstructured and free-flowing and impossible to adjudicate. The only win state is you delivering your merits and getting the perk the next week.

Until Powerplay goes Open only, it will be hard to know who it will attract and repel.

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I think this year will be the make or break of Powerplay, simply as Powerplay is one, if not the thing from the 1.x days that has not seen drastic improvement. The longer FD skirt around the edges of it the more pressure will build. They need the courage to actually realize its potential, as it ties together so much of the game.

"Unless FR rewrite"
"Until Powerplay goes Open only"
"make or break"

Nope, no overly dramatic language there is there. /facepalm
I mean I had 1 instance and was proven right at the time, Frontier cannot give you guys an inch and you want a mile.

I'm not even done browsing and you're quite the drama queen.
Perhaps you should consider that before you go about calling other people names?

Or perhaps you should consider these wise words;

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I just wish people would get this giant chip of their shoulders and just play the game the way they want and leave others to do the same.

That guy is right.
 
"Unless FR rewrite"
"Until Powerplay goes Open only"
"make or break"

Nope, no overly dramatic language there is there. /facepalm
I mean I had 1 instance and was proven right at the time, Frontier cannot give you guys an inch and you want a mile.

I'm not even done browsing and you're quite the drama queen.
Perhaps you should consider that before you go about calling other people names?

Then you did not read what I wrote just a few responses back and are engaging in some goalpost moving:

(in response to:Or how Open only advocates (yourself included) have been predicting the end of Elite (every few months) if the mode system wasn't ritualistically destroyed?)

*'Your lot'? Plus, I've never advocated the demise of ED because of not being Open. Powerplay yes, if nothing else is done with it and (Open) is all we have thats new. *

Powerplay will fall into decay and I do not hide my alarm at its lack of development, mainly down to Luddite tub thumping - you have three zombie powers where groups have quit, and its just as likely more might follow.

"Unless FR rewrite"
"Until Powerplay goes Open only"
"make or break"

Yes- all talking about Powerplay, because all of that is happening right now. Without high level players, Powers just bounce about and are sock-puppeted into being weapons- thats not a healthy state to be in. Without decent co-ordinated groups then the massive battles of the past will not happen again. Its possible that we have gone past that point.
 
Yeah, Powerplay is in a really bad place right now. Going over a quick look at various recorded merit totals (as recorded by Winters operators), it's fallen off pretty hard in the last few months. Torval and Grom are zombie powers (at least that I've noticed, there could well be a third one that I haven't been paying attention to). It actually will continue to wither if FDev doesn't do something, even if it means like, starting a new season of Powerplay.
 
Agreed OP.

I know it will NEVER happen though.

I really wish solo mode was completely offline, then players could still effect their own world but not effect other player's worlds.

Again: It will NEVER happen. Doesn't make me wrong for wanting it.
 
Fdev has said that they think powerplay should be open only as its a PVP mode.
Not entirely true, ONE person at FD said they were considering it and the following focus discussions highlighted how broken that idea was. Funny how that person is no longer on the project and the remaining team have ONLY stated that SOME of the ideas are being considered - there is no overt commitment to introducing any Open only restrictions nor Open bias.

The thing they have been adamant about and not changed stance on even one iota is their declaration that all mode and gameplay choices are equal. For FD to remain to be committed to that position they can not legitimately make any attempt to either bias a feature towards a specific mode or make any feature explicitly mode exclusive.
 
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Lestat

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Sorry, I think everyone should have the same right to play power play however they want. Solo Open or Pirate. Some who can't play in open because of some type of Limitations. Internet, Paid to play contract and such.

So my answer still no. Watch we be getting the fake Polls by someone.
 
Going by what I'm seeing elsethread, PowerPlay might be the only thing currently working properly. I'd take what's left and hide before it all comes crashing down...
Er, Game is doomed! or something...
 
Sorry, I think everyone should have the same right to play power play however they want. Solo Open or Pirate. Some who can't play in open because of some type of Limitations. Internet, Paid to play contract and such.

So my answer still no. Watch we be getting the fake Polls by someone.

No, that's dumb. That's like complaining that you can't play multiplayer halo matches without XBox gold. Powerplay should be the big scale open PVP mode. Move the modules to the tech brokers and the solo players lose nothing gameplay-wise.
 

Lestat

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No, that's dumb. That's like complaining that you can't play multiplayer halo matches without XBox gold. Powerplay should be the big scale open PVP mode. Move the modules to the tech brokers and the solo players lose nothing gameplay-wise.
No what dumb is players ignorance for people who can't afford to pay a monthly fee. $120 is a month worth of food for some people.
 
Power Play is supposed to be the main outlet for PvP. It is one of the few aspects of the game where players directly compete. If you want to compete in Power Play, you should be forced to actually compete with other players in open.
 
Powerplay should be the big scale open PVP mode. Move the modules to the tech brokers and the solo players lose nothing gameplay-wise.
Yeah.
Just leave BACKGROUND simulation alone (and decouple powerplay from it completely), no need for any of the "open-only" nonsense regarding the BGS. ;)
 

Lestat

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Power Play is supposed to be the main outlet for PvP. It is one of the few aspects of the game where players directly compete. If you want to compete in Power Play, you should be forced to actually compete with other players in open.
Go play CQC. That where you directly compete with other players. Power Play is something EVERYONE in every mode can do.
 
Currently everyone can, yes. That's the point.

They shouldn't be able to. I'm guessing you don't engage with Power Play, which is why you can't understand.
So you'd advocate removing content from people who CAN'T play in open or PG?
Are you going to refund them for the game they paid for?
 

Lestat

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Currently everyone can, yes. That's the point.
And that how it should stay.

They shouldn't be able to. I'm guessing you don't engage with Power Play, which is why you can't understand.
Then go play CQC which is PvPer. The people who can't afford to play open are going to be the one hurt. Which you can't understand.

So you'd advocate removing content from people who CAN'T play in open or PG?
Are you going to refund them for the game they paid for?
I think Gankers should be forced to pay for Console users.
 
The people who can't afford to play open are going to be the one hurt. Which you can't understand.
Quite. Even without the whole "can't afford to" part, making PP open only would, on consoles at least make PP into a Pay-To-Win mechanic, since it's the only way to get certain arguably more powerful equipment. And I don't think anyone here wants pay-to-win in the game.
 
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