Mandalay Jump Range
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Well it's been speculated that the Mandalay will be around the 210 t mark for its hull mass. Based on that you can theorycraft the jump range in EDSY's experimental mode with the CM4. Brother Sabathius just did that on stream and landed in the high 80s, beating an Exploraconda by a couple of ly.
Nope, mine has over 80 with +8t fuel slot used. If I replace the tank by SLF, it will be less than 79 a little. With empty slot it is 82 ly.
Everything else is there, shield booster, SRV, all scanners, plasma gun with fuel consumption, limpets etc.
Most annoying thing I predict in the new ship - absence of the big enough cargo rack. I like to refuel the carrier without hopping ships. My Any has 64t rack = refuel in 2 loads.
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What are you talking about?
Why would anyone try to refuel a carrier with a ship manifestly not designed for it?
What will be next? I predict players expressing their annoyance that the Viper Mk. III doesn't have a huge hardpoint.
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I mean they were rather clear it will outdo the Conda for the jump range.
If it cannot be engineered to jump more than 91.15 LY, then I really have no use for the Mandalay. I already have a DBX with an 80 LY jump range. I specialize in reaching systems that are 3000 LY or more above or below the central galactic plane, and many such systems are unreachable with anything but a superminmaxed Annie that can do at least 90.5 LY max range, or a fleet carrier. I mean...I have had to do premium jumponium jumps of 181.2 LY or neutron jumps of about 360 LY to reach such systems.
My Annie, the Victoria, with a 91.15 LY max jump range and 87 laden, made it possible for me to perform the first solo round trip trip to Trieneou AA-A h2 (3393 LY below the plane)-currently the lowest system that can be reached by regular starship AND live to tell the tale.
The Victoria also performed the first trip to Synauloo AA-A h0 (3301 LY below the plane). It required the range stated to pull this off. Venturing into this area is like solving 3D mathematical puzzles - finding routes, extensive use of the 3D distance formula, and visualizing possible routes with the aid of the galactic map. And without the 91 LY range, many of these mathematical puzzles have no solution.
This is one of the reasons I call the extreme heights or depths of the galaxy “the Death Zone.”
My Annie, the Victoria, with a 91.15 LY max jump range and 87 laden, made it possible for me to perform the first solo round trip trip to Trieneou AA-A h2 (3393 LY below the plane)-currently the lowest system that can be reached by regular starship AND live to tell the tale.
The Victoria also performed the first trip to Synauloo AA-A h0 (3301 LY below the plane). It required the range stated to pull this off. Venturing into this area is like solving 3D mathematical puzzles - finding routes, extensive use of the 3D distance formula, and visualizing possible routes with the aid of the galactic map. And without the 91 LY range, many of these mathematical puzzles have no solution.
This is one of the reasons I call the extreme heights or depths of the galaxy “the Death Zone.”
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It's very dissapointing hearing that this is still being said about Elite Dangerous in the year of our Lord, 2024, almost 10 years after ED was launched. It is possible to do efficient jumps in a ship with 80LY, just as much as 30LY, however the latter cannot get to various places the former can, regardless of how fast or slow it might be.
I would like to think a fully engineered Mandalay could hit high 90's, early 100's, with engineering. If it's barely as much as Anaconda, then it's pretty much redundant -- and as Frontier do not seem to have dozens of ships in the pipeline -- that'd be quite the waste of effort, imho.
Not if it has better SC maneuverability and can land in tighter spots
A few weeks ago, my best guess for the Mandalay hull mass was simply to match the Mamba at 250 T but with a class 5 FSD, which gives around 82 Ly lightweight.
Definitely there is a reason now to suspect below 250 T given that the lightest Anacondas can breach 90 Ly, although an amount as light as 210 T could be a bit questionable:
Definitely there is a reason now to suspect below 250 T given that the lightest Anacondas can breach 90 Ly, although an amount as light as 210 T could be a bit questionable:
- The medium Mamba at 250 T is already lighter than the smaller Diamondback Explorer at 260 T.
- 230 T would match a Vulture.
- 210 T would match a Cobra 4.
Anaconda has nonsense hull mass, in context with basically all other ships Frontier has since created. It's hull mass should be ignored when comparing as no other ship really shares the same ratio between hull mass and FSD size (hull mass isn't so much the thing, it's the mass vs FSD size). It's an exception and trying to use it for comparison is just pointless.
Note that the DBX is a small ship with a class 5 FSD which is the only reason it has the range it does; all other small ships have a class 4 (or smaller). So it too, basically, is an exception. If the dolphin had a class 5 FSD, for example it'd be a little monster range wise. Equally, if the DBX had a class 4 FSD, it's range would be less than dolphin (which is quite a bit lighter).
The problem with trying to approach ships in Elite with any form of logic, is that basically almost none of them, actually follow any consistent logic.
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I would like the FSD size and hull mass ratio such that the Mandalay can hit (at least) 90LY+ with engineering otherwise Frontier is ostensibly (imho) wasting everyone's time with a ship they will go on to sell for real money (ARX) when the Anaconda is already at that point, with DBX and Krait Phantom being able to hit ~80LY and ~73LY respectively.
It does seem like current-Frontier likes to build ships that have a bit more value proposition than they did in the past (which is good, given they are going the real money route) and I'd very much welcome them to continue that trend. If they feel like sprucing up the existing ships a little bit, that'd be pretty neat as well.
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For you maybe. But the stripped out ‘Conda I have at Jameson’s Memorial is mostly redundant for my exploration anyway. I liked to set down on planets before Odyssey and therefore favour my DBX. As this is the Odyssey forum, I think a ship that has a similar range as the Anaconda and can land easier has a lot of value.
Absolutely. I am hopeful Frontier shares that same view and we end up with something that is up there with Anaconda for range, that's just a tad easier to park (I am hoping the reason it has a chunky midriff is to pull the landing gear closer together).
A really long-legged medium ship that has good internals offers very broad appeal.
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Closing as there is an existing Mandalay thread here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/shes-a-beauty-new-ship-revealed-mandalay.627598
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