Many thread about mystery in deep space

[Archvillain]

No, it is not enough. Too many promises was not attended and the ED's answer to this topic question is too elusive.
Saying "no, there is nothing" were be an admission of lack of contents
Saying nothing where be probably worst because the question was one of the most intriguing at all in the AMA
Saying "we are working on it" probably would be better but it should be followed by a timeline or some
Sayning "yes, something" is an elegant way to close the topic... With 400*10^9 systems there could be an entire civilized space out there, players will take ages to find it, without any kind of interaction like today.

It is more than enough. The "elegant" way to close the topic would have been to never have raised it - to pass over the question just like the majority of questions get passed over.
More information would be unwelcome. Elite is about risk - stumbling on the mysteries of space, it's not being told about a feature then going to skeptically check that FD fully delivered.
Actually, it's not even about stumbling on the mysteries of space, it's about usually not stumbling on the mysteries of space, but knowing how big and dangerous and full of mystery it is out there, and knowing that the unknown can happen at any moment. The way that peg-legged captains of old would talk about the mysteries of the oceans, fickle and dangerous and full of wonders.

I've been in Braben's situation - worked hard creating secret surprise new content for a blockbuster game, with players screaming and whining about how they want more and we're [expletives] for not giving them more, but all they have to do is calm down and wait a moment, but you can't even say that much without wrecking it, and apparently the sky is falling. It's not fun to have to keep your mouth shut when you worked hard and you're proud of what you built and you think people are going to really like it and you want them to see it, meanwhile all you get are insults.
He rode a fine line nicely - he simply confirmed that space is still dark and mysterious, but didn't spoil anything. Quite the opposite of spoiling - he's inspired a flurry of adventure, as explorers upgrade their ships with capabilities beyond just scanning, and find themselves reminded that we're not just explorers, we're adventurers too.

My guess is that there are multiple things yet to be found. Guessing further I'd think that each of them are likely to be details and curiosities rather than Major Big Things. Eg like the voyager probe. If so, that's super cool!

 

[slashgoh]

slashgoh, I know what probably means, yes. It still doesn't explain strange statements that have no connection to the previous conversation.

Yes, sorry... I wrote that because many players are happy for PVP improvements, and disregards the goodness of space exploration. This is not my case

 

[Vasious]

Where am I making a leap of faith?
"Yes there are non celestial bodies to discover, which are something we added in 1.2" which is what you get if you put all the answers together

Are you asking for exactly what has been added?
If so you are asking for some of the mystery you insisted was important to be removed.

*edit*
Well Said Archvillian

 

[G.T]

That is entirely subjective. It is enough for me. And I'm afraid I don't agree with the rest of your statement either, but then I'm generally optimistic.

Ah, remember the hints from the first Elite of things that were out there but actually weren't, but never denied?

 

[simulacrae]

Personally I think its a little early to be complaining about why we haven't found whatever these "non-celestial objects" are.
And DB did answer the OPs question - no it is not voyager ... If you want proof that something exists before you go look for it - you are not an explorer. As to probabilities ....

Everything existing in the universe is the fruit of chance and necessity - Democritus

 

[Vikinger]

There are entire sectors out there that require an unknown permit to visit.
Other side of the galaxy we have sector system Praei and Bleia.
Closer to SOL we have Regor sector.
But ive heard those systems are "locked" down for future expansions so they act as placeholders atm.
Polaris is also a system that we need permit to visit but I have no clue who hand out the permit.

Intressting stellar objects. Well take a look at HEN 2-333 on the galaxy map

Iam not gona start a rumour but I checked the faction file and major faction is Federation, Empire etc but I was surprised to se Thargoid as a faction. I don't think the thargoids are in the game yet so its just a text string on a file some dev put there for use in the future. But who knows

 

[Crank Larson]

Ah, remember the hints from the first Elite of things that were out there but actually weren't, but never denied?

To be honest, if that does turn out to be the case it still won't really bother me (I may have a slight twinge of disappointment, but that would be it). Oblique references to game content from DB aren't going to change the way I play. Though if I do come across something in the deep, I'll be very happy.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Whilst I think what they said is fine I so see why the op is worried. I spent blooming ages looking for space dredgers, generation ships and things like the derelict shipyard I read about. I was too young at the time to understand it was technically not likely

PS I love this game, and have zero interest in PvP.

That is not to say I ain't gagging for more content however.

The oculus rift may help tho, I may not be so eager without it

 

[slashgoh]

It seems that you don't catch my point:

1- ED is a game: we are not explorers, we are gamers that spend time for a useless activity only for fun. I have to be sure to play the game in the right way because otherwise I will stay months in my ASP hoping to see something... but why????
2 - It is so hard? Is something really out there? Put some "hint" in the Galnet in order to raise the interest: this is ED, not PACMAN. Is something not out there? Rely on the 400 billion stars so "explorers" will think that the universe is big and that it is hard to find something... but we are gamers not explorers. ED is not our reason for life, it is only a game, so pls, let us enjoi it in a reasonable amount of time.

Of course you are free to think different from me, but let me ask FD for details!

 

[Angus]

In other words... ED is a game, not a religion. I'm not required to have faith on FD team, I have to get concrete answers about game specs. And this is what I'm questionig

Wow, I think you just explained what the "entitlemenr" concept is all about. When you listen to music do you complain to the artist that the song is in the wrong key, or that the chorus is too short? Give them some respect.

 

[Varrag]

Assuming that less than 0.001% of systems have been visited so far, chances that some of us will stumble upon something rare and unusual are negligible: our galaxy is mind-bogglingly huge place. Question is also how many of those systems were actually fully explored. Perhaps there are ancient megastructures visible from orbit somewhere - how often are we approaching planets to see them up close and personal? Perhaps there is something to be found on those icy planets - but snowballs are largely ignored. And so on.

But it's all part of the mystery. If you make it too obvious and easy to find then it's not a mystery any more; much less a challenge. Although, I would expect some vague hints in GalNet to eventually show up so that we get at least a rough idea about what we're looking for, and where.

 

[Crank Larson]

1- ED is a game: we are not explorers, we are gamers that spend time for a useless activity only for fun. I have to be sure to play the game in the right way because otherwise I will stay months in my ASP hoping to see something... but why????

Ah, ok. I think this is probably the main issue. There isn't a "right way" to play Elite, it's not that kind of game. If you don't enjoy exploring or spending months in your Asp, then I would suggest it isn't worth you doing that. If there is something to be discovered, someone will find it and then the community will know.

EDIT: This is not a game you can "complete". There is no end game. If you have that outlook, I think it will diminish your enjoyment. The whole point about having a galaxy so large is to emphasise this point, I believe. It is impossible for anyone to visit more than a tiny percentage of it. Even all of us combined would take at least 200 years to visit everything.

 

[Vasious]

Agree to disagree

 

[Archvillain]

Whilst I think what they said is fine I so see why the op is worried. I spent blooming ages looking for space dredgers, generation ships and things like the derelict shipyard I read about. I was too young at the time to understand it was technically not likely

You might have looked for a specific thing that might or might not have been out there, but you were still correct in thinking that you had not yet seen all the things the game could throw at you. I played for years, and some things I stumbled on would have been mere unconfirmed stories to other people, just as most of the lore was unconfirmed stories to me.

But more importantly, the Voyager probe in Sol! They have already been slipping in content without telling anyone and simply leaving it to be discovered. We know this for a fact!
Not only that, but putting a USS in the sol system is some very low hanging fruit. It seems strange to me that anyone would assume that there are no higher branches, that the rabbit hole probably goes no further. Devs love making stuff like that, and unlike Elite'84, this game is not restricted to 32 kilobytes.

 

[acg515]

What if it's already been discovered and they just didn't get on the forums to post about it or didn't know how to take screenshots and didn't want to sound like some dude pulling something out of their butthole just to get page views and make people debate it without hard proof?

It's possible.

 

[slashgoh]

Wow, I think you just explained what the "entitlemenr" concept is all about. When you listen to music do you complain to the artist that the song is in the wrong key, or that the chorus is too short? Give them some respect.

no, in that case music is an expression of the artist; ED is a piece of software developed to be enjoyed by playing it, not by worship it
In any case, I'm free to comment a song I don't like, like a game I think it should be improved; who are you to not agree with this? Stay at your place pls

 

[Archvillain]

Perhaps there are ancient megastructures visible from orbit somewhere - how often are we approaching planets to see them up close and personal? Perhaps there is something to be found on those icy planets...

Hahaha, I'm imagining some poor dev, confident that his/her ice-world mega-structures - which are clearly visible from space - will be spotted any day now...

...aaaany day now... (confidence slightly rattled)

right about... now... ...now... no - NOW... surely... NOW! ...?

...

Nope! All that hard work will never ever ever be seen

(How on earth did Vader manage to find the rebel base on Hoth?!? )

 

[slashgoh]

Hahaha, I'm imagining some poor dev, confident that his ice-world mega-structures - which are clearly visible from space - will be spotted any day now...

...aaaany day now... (confidence slightly rattled)

right about... now... ...now... no - NOW... surely... NOW! ...?

His work will never ever ever be discovered

How on earth did Vader manage to find the rebel base on Hoth?!?

This is hilarious, of course, but it is exactly what is probably happening with the mysterious object mentioned by DB...
... and putting an hint in the Galnet not means unvealing the mystery, it can be the first step for an epic odissey... that will be a reason to play more... that will be a reason to enjoy the galaxy...

(Vader had probes spanning on the galaxy and thousand of slave soldiers that had to follow his order. FD has a pool of gamers)

 

[EdzUp]

If you think about it adding speculation will get everyone looking for them instead of ruining the game by trying kill everything thus changing the focus of the game to spreading out looking for these items.

 

[slashgoh]

If you think about it adding speculation will get everyone looking for them instead of ruining the game by trying kill everything thus changing the focus of the game to spreading out looking for these items.

Exactly.... yes!
Already happened in other games