Carrier Jumps should be no problem. There was an issue some time back where being on foot while doing a carrier jump could cause a problem but that ought to be fine in latest release. Does it make a difference if you're in ship vs on foot when doing a carrier jump ?
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On foot, I do all my carrier jumps on foot. So maybe this bug is back? I have the most updated ObsCore from GitHub and BioInsights from EDJP (I've just been reinstalling everything after all)
I'll try and reproduce it when I get a chance - but even if I can reproduce, it's unlikely to be fixed until the new version of Observatory is released as all my effort is currently going into getting an updated BioInsights working with that (it's undergone some significant surgery!). Hopefully it's not too long to wait.
Just a heads-up: I recently found Bark Mounds on a body with Bacterium and Fonticula (thin atmosphere). All the sources I've seen state Bark Mounds only appear on bodies with no atmosphere. Those sources are obviously wrong.Given the discussion in another thread, seems a good time to drop a work-in-progress screenshot of the next version of BioInsights
Output will likely change before release, but the key take away is: Brain Tree support. I will get the other Horizons bios in too, but probably not before the next release as it's a lot of work and I don't have enough time. To just add Bark Mounds will require me to audit the positions of every (non-planetary) nebula in the game, work out which ones actually have Bark Mounds (not all of them), and there also seems to be 2 areas where Bark Mounds appear but that don't seem to have a nebula so I'll have to work out what's going on there too. The other Horizons bios are equally time consuming. But the important bit is BioInsights itself has support for Horizons, now I just need to codify the rules.
Some of the other features in the next version include:
- Codex Companion is part of the plugin, no separate download or need to manually update it
- It should scroll to the right place for your current body
- Every icon (and certain text) has a mouse-over to explain what it means
- It'll estimate your unsold biological data value
- You can pop out the window from the main Observatory window
Can't even estimate when this might be available as it requires the new version of Observatory to be released, but Soon
Does anyone have a good source for up-to-date info on biologicals?
Pretty sure all Horizons bios can appear on atmospherics, but they need to meet the original Horizons requirements - no atmosphere isn't a requirement. Marx's spreadsheet is probably best source of requirements, but they'll be in BioInsights soon(ish).
The Canonn Bioforge site (https://canonn-science.github.io/bioforge/?entryid=bark mounds) is often useful to a get a quick overview of (some?) reported observations, although it does lack one or two attributes that really should be in there (for example presence and details of volcanism).
Based on that, Bark Mounds have been observed on several thin-atmosphere bodies, as well as a single thick-atmosphere one (though I'd want some confirmatory observations for that). The great bulk of observations (c. 96%) are on non-atmospheric bodies, though.
I was hoping someone had a site similar to https://ed-dsn.net/en/exobiological-flora/, but with accurate information. Navigation is great there, but only the images can be trusted.
It's sad that so many post information to the web, get a little attention, then leave it to go stale. Very few seem to care how much they'll be misleading people later.
It's sad that so many post information to the web, get a little attention, then leave it to go stale. Very few seem to care how much they'll be misleading people later.
I do try to keep this sheet up to date, and as comprehensive as can be. The Codex has a lot of errors and missing information, after all. If I find out about any inaccuracies in the sheet, I update it.
Note that ever since Odyssey's new surface generation, the old Horizons plants can appear on thin atmospheric planets now, but for some reason, this only happens very rarely. The transition to the new generation changed things somewhat (including Horizons plants now also depending on geology that the game doesn't log), but it's just in some rare cases. You can safely assume that Horizons plants might rarely appear on thin atmo. bodies, and also that Horizons plants are no longer guaranteed to appear on non-atmo. bodies that meet all the listed criteria. (Some of them now seem to depend on geology that isn't written to the journals.) These are still tiny percentages though.
Note that ever since Odyssey's new surface generation, the old Horizons plants can appear on thin atmospheric planets now, but for some reason, this only happens very rarely. The transition to the new generation changed things somewhat (including Horizons plants now also depending on geology that the game doesn't log), but it's just in some rare cases. You can safely assume that Horizons plants might rarely appear on thin atmo. bodies, and also that Horizons plants are no longer guaranteed to appear on non-atmo. bodies that meet all the listed criteria. (Some of them now seem to depend on geology that isn't written to the journals.) These are still tiny percentages though.
While you wait for new BioInsights release, please consider confirming this issue if you're able - for the purposes of confirming, scanning a Tussock and receiving a Yellow variant should be enough. Even better if you have a screenshot showing it's not yellow (or whatever colour may have been reported)
If it's already confirmed then please add your votes.
If it's already confirmed then please add your votes.
That's what I was looking for. Thanks for the thread link.
I'm currently mapping an entire nebula's systems alphanumerically (over a thousand systems). So far, I've found about a half dozen bodies with Bark Mounds. Two had thin atmospheres, one had Odyssey biologicals. Yep, the new generation really made it quite difficult to predict Horizons biologicals.
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Hm? They are there, in the "Surface Bio - Horizons" subsheet. The whole thing is from well before Odyssey, after all.
My mistake. I still forget about the bottom tabs on my own sheets. Thanks again
Hello,
Firstly can I say a big thank you for your brilliant Observatory plugins that I have been using for over a year now and how much they have been developed with numerous updates etc. If you have the time can I ask you a couple of questions please?
1. I don't really understand what the Codex Companion does although it's name tells me what it should do, be a companion, I don't know what or how it does it's thing or what I should be seeing and where. I wonder if I have it downloaded and installed it in the right location.
2. With regards to the BioInsights, no matter what value I have the minimum set at in the Core settings, the tool continues to report all bios. I have tried to get it to ignore any bios below 5 million, but to no avail, any ideas please?
Kind regards.
Firstly can I say a big thank you for your brilliant Observatory plugins that I have been using for over a year now and how much they have been developed with numerous updates etc. If you have the time can I ask you a couple of questions please?
1. I don't really understand what the Codex Companion does although it's name tells me what it should do, be a companion, I don't know what or how it does it's thing or what I should be seeing and where. I wonder if I have it downloaded and installed it in the right location.
2. With regards to the BioInsights, no matter what value I have the minimum set at in the Core settings, the tool continues to report all bios. I have tried to get it to ignore any bios below 5 million, but to no avail, any ideas please?
Kind regards.
I) I believe the codex companion does, or at least used to, assist in identifying bios you haven't previously discovered. Not 100% sure if it still does that, but it's useful to see what stuff in any particular region still needs finding and what planets sorts of stars and planetary bodies they can be found on.
2) That's not what that particular function does, bio-insights itself will always report all bios, what that does is change pop-up and verbal notifications for bio below a certain value, but they will still appear in the bio-insights plugin. At least I believe that's what you are talking about here.
Hi,
Thanks for the speedy response.
1. Ok thanks I will keep an eye and see.
2. Ok understood about the full reporting on all bios in a system, but I get pop -up and verbal notifications for bio's below the set value even if for example a Bacterium valued at 1m is the only bio in the system and I have the setting set at report at 7m and above. I am trying to avoid having to check the BioInsights to see it is below what I what to be notified about you see.
Keep in mind one of the setting values for notification is for the value of all the bio's on the body, not individual bios, so it you have it set to 5m then it only takes a couple of low value bio's to trigger the notification. Mine is set to 20m for the body and 15m for individual bio's so I only get notification for the most valuable bio's. However it may always report if a body has bio regardless of value settings as in "atmospheric planet with life" because that is a yes/no option in bio-insights and not a value based option, if you haven't disabled that in the options for bio-insights it will always pop up to let you know there is life on that body. That may be where your confusion is.
That explains a lot thanks, I will adjust the settings higher as it makes a lot of sense.
Thank you
Also bear in mind it will notify you of bios you’ve not seen in galaxy or region before, so you may also be seeing notifications for that. You should be able to disable those in settings too if they’re a problem.
Thanks
Running into another odd issue with BioInsights (and CodexCompanion), in that it isn't updating my list of "Seen" codex entries. For example, my in-game Codex for Outer Orion Spur says that I have seen 27 entries. CodexCompanion (as well as BioInsights which I believe reads from the same file) says I have seen 12, and this is not updating when I actually obtain a new scan. I use the "Mark entries I've not seen in current region" and as a result it isn't working as intended. Any ideas?