Engineers Medium Security Settlement List and Guide for Modified Embedded Firmware

djadjok

djadjok
tony123 said:
it`s ok I managed to work it out, the drawn path for the SRV didnt say to go over the wall lol, I think I found a quick way to do it and easy way to do it as you only need 3 of them (the first one I found wasnt on the map and triggered an armed response.)
The way I did it was to go the opposite way around, do the last one first, drive across the roof and "fly" across to the center one, (this gave me 1 min 15 sec to get the last one) then drive past at full speed past the 2 fixed emplacements, there is a tiny ramp on the floor just after the 2nd emplacement, do a full long boost and you will hit the roof with out any problems, and just a case of a steady drive to the 3rd one. There are 2 on the roof top, the one on the edge near the center mast doesnt seem to do anything.

P.S, for some reason I cant see the data points on the radar and I cant target them unless im right on top of them, prob whay the map also didnt look right
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Ok, glad that you solved the puzzle.
1) "when I scanned the link I got attacked straight away" - it's a private "Emplacement access" terminal that you've scanned (as consequence of that scan you have blow up all AA defenses - ups=) )
2) "the one on the edge near the center mast doesnt seem to do anything" - ok, in fact it does=) A dozen of kilocreds znd timer stopped=) Before 2.2 this was the most peaceful way to gain starting capital (500K-800K for the scan), but now it is nerfed 100x times. However it is also a method to "pause" your scan.
3) proposed routes are not necessary the most efficient ones for the given case, they were designed to be simple and valid for wide range of gravity conditions and particular commander driving skills (try to fly with 2g, heh =)) )

DAPs are visible in contact list at distances just below "scan distance" ~50+ meters
 
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tony123

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ok thanks for the tip, I have worked out some of the other sites although more scanning points, a little easier that those first ones on the list lol.

BTW, the extra terminals has anyone tested to see if you get more data from them? I have been to 2 same layout sites, I forgot to scan 2 of the data points (1 on the far north side of the base on drawn map, and the 2nd on the top of the roof next to the 1st scan point) after "capturing" the 3 points I only got 3 scan data, then at the 2nd site I remembered to scan the 2, then did the 3 points, I seemed to get a lot more data than the first. Same happened again at one of the larger sites, I was unfamiliar and missed out 1, I captured the 5 points and got the data but again only 3 scan data.
 

djadjok

djadjok
tony123 said:
ok thanks for the tip, I have worked out some of the other sites although more scanning points, a little easier that those first ones on the list lol.

BTW, the extra terminals has anyone tested to see if you get more data from them? I have been to 2 same layout sites, I forgot to scan 2 of the data points (1 on the far north side of the base on drawn map, and the 2nd on the top of the roof next to the 1st scan point) after "capturing" the 3 points I only got 3 scan data, then at the 2nd site I remembered to scan the 2, then did the 3 points, I seemed to get a lot more data than the first. Same happened again at one of the larger sites, I was unfamiliar and missed out 1, I captured the 5 points and got the data but again only 3 scan data.
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Hmm. The number of DAP's in each particular layout is fixed and you must scan all of them in order to receive any data/complete the scan chain - there are no any "extra" DAPs. The other terminals have no influence on this process.
The number of materials you receive depends on:
1) RNG
2) security level (higher security levels provide more data)
3) settlements size - same as above but the overall influence is less by the order of magnitude.
 

tony123

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yea scan all points, that are public, there is one called a data hub, this will stop the count down so you have plenty of breathing space if you need it :).

Also a small tip I found usefull at a place I have never been, once you know where all the data points are drive carefully around passing each data point then go back to the start, once you have tripped the first point, its just a case of following your tracks :D
 

Zieman

Zieman
Now that the Alien scout(?) ship has been discovered, I don't know if this interests anyone anymore, but anyway I'll share a couple of finds:

Found Modified Embedded Firmware in a base type that isn't mentioned in the thread OP. Don't know what the 'official' type for this kind of base is, could be construction or something like that, I just call it "crane" for now. Second one I scanned successfully yielded a MEF jackpot: 3 drops of MEF at once!
It is a Medium Security ++ base, one I got the good stuff from is Miller Base on Kammaits 1 b. 6 data points with 60 sec timer addition each, all scannable from the ground (or low platform, outside tresspass zone).

Another base type not listed in the OP is what I call "ship depot". Didn't get MEF from the one I scanned, but got Cracked Industrial Firmware drop there.
It is a Medium Security ++ base, the one I visited is Scully-Power Relay on Kammaits 1 c. 4 data points with 60 sec timer addition each, 3 scannable from the ground and one from sligthly elevated area, all outside tresspass zone.

Here are the pics, if anyone wants to draw more detailed maps, be my quest (I marked the data points on one top view pic of each base):
http://imgur.com/a/Cer60
 
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djadjok

djadjok
Zieman said:
Now that the Alien scout(?) ship has been discovered, I don't know if this interests anyone anymore, but anyway I'll share a couple of finds:

Found Modified Embedded Firmware in a base type that isn't mentioned in the thread OP. Don't know what the 'official' type for this kind of base is, could be construction or something like that, I just call it "crane" for now. Second one I scanned successfully yielded a MEF jackpot: 3 drops of MEF at once!
It is a Medium Security ++ base, one I got the good stuff from is Miller Base on Kammaits 1 b. 6 data points with 60 sec timer addition each, all scannable from the ground (or low platform, outside tresspass zone).

Another base type not listed in the OP is what I call "ship depot". Didn't get MEF from the one I scanned, but got Cracked Industrial Firmware drop there.
It is a Medium Security ++ base, the one I visited is Scully-Power Relay on Kammaits 1 c. 4 data points with 60 sec timer addition each, 3 scannable from the ground and one from sligthly elevated area, all outside tresspass zone.

Here are the pics, if anyone wants to draw more detailed maps, be my quest (I marked the data points on one top view pic of each base):
http://imgur.com/a/Cer60
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hm... The OP started this thread in July, 2016 (pre-2.1.05). At that time MEF was obtainable only from large size (real size) bases with security level "medium" or above (i.e. "high"), or from medium size bases with exclusively "high security". Since then many things has been changed - and MEF/bases layout type distribution also (and this can be found along 39 pages of this thread). However the mapping project was started earlier - in February, and all maps are available on the main mapping spreadsheet (home of mapping project), along with all layouts descriptions. In fact on December 9 the last of possible settlements variations was finally located. On your images I saw medium size Scientific (M3) and medium size Civilan (M4) layouts=)
And yes, on this page you can find what kind of layout most probably will produce the kind of data you are searching for.
 

Zieman

Zieman
djadjok said:
hm... The OP started this thread in July, 2016 (pre-2.1.05). At that time MEF was obtainable only from large size (real size) bases with security level "medium" or above (i.e. "high"), or from medium size bases with exclusively "high security". Since then many things has been changed - and MEF/bases layout type distribution also (and this can be found along 39 pages of this thread). However the mapping project was started earlier - in February, and all maps are available on the main mapping spreadsheet (home of mapping project), along with all layouts descriptions. In fact on December 9 the last of possible settlements variations was finally located. On your images I saw medium size Scientific (M3) and medium size Civilan (M4) layouts=)
And yes, on this page you can find what kind of layout most probably will produce the kind of data you are searching for.
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Ah, ok. Thanks! [up]
The OP could be updated to reflect the newer developments... :)

This (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...ggEXLSO0CMaE0ksZMB2Ejlh0aYI/edit#gid=26375158) is a pretty confusing spreadsheet though, as the meaning of number in the settlement type code changes as the 1st letter changes (and finding that out needed some digging around the various spreadsheets).
 
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w3bbo

w3bbo
Just a quick note to give a massive thanks to the CMDRs for compiling this thread. I managed to get 15 MEF and a crap load of other data from the first 8 settlements in the Industrial list. So easy to get and quite relaxing once you get the hang of it. My 'vette is now fully G5 MC engineered with EE :).
 

djadjok

djadjok
Zieman said:
Ah, ok. Thanks! [up]
The OP could be updated to reflect the newer developments... :)

This (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...ggEXLSO0CMaE0ksZMB2Ejlh0aYI/edit#gid=26375158) is a pretty confusing spreadsheet though, as the meaning of number in the settlement type code changes as the 1st letter changes (and finding that out needed some digging around the various spreadsheets).
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Oh yes, this thread needs glossary and table of contents, for sure=))) More, the complete guide concerning settlements exists (my version), but only in russian (and in fact I doubt that many native russian speaking commanders have ever read it)
Some updates however are present in the OP. Here some technical difficulties are present - it's impossible to automatically update maps (and they are updated on regular bases by me, but I'm not the OP=) ). The last and freshest links to maps are normally available only on the main mapping spreadsheet.
I haven't found may be the most important update about MEF drops in the first post - the fact that MEF is not limited by large/med sec and med size/high sec bases (may be I just don't see some evident thing).
About list/statistics spreadsheet and layout types.
For me the primary spreadsheet is mapping spreadsheet, and locations/statistics are just side products of the classification project. So this "digging" is a result of the fact that many commanders are starting from the end - locations/statistics - and terminology is hidden somewhere in the beginning)

Oasis81 said:
but now on low sec and mid sec there are always a ship security?!
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As it was pointed out by commander Zieman those ships doesn't present any threat in normal circumstances - only in case of direct base attack/assault.
Also only in case base of assault (or violating local laws):
1)Any ship on landing pad (if any) will be your enemy and will attack you.
2)Ship "inside" base perimeter, landed (if any) - also will attack you
3)Ship patrolling base (circling above) will also attack you
4)Landed ships in proximity (of a given faction) will become red, but will attack you only after direct attack on them, otherwise staying on the ground
Scanning of datapoints is always permitted in bigger-than-tiny settlements (but trespassing restricted zones for longer then ~20 seconds - not)
 
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BoingZebadee

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Thanks to Devari for starting this thread as well as Djadjok and Dr Kaii for the follow up work.

Did the Industrial layouts last weekend and have organised them into an economical route. Perhaps not perfect but 3 are close together with two more pairs within 30 Ly of each settlement.

Industrial Layout - Overview Map http://i.imgur.com/AqlTEBZ.jpg - Scan Path Map http://i.imgur.com/ORyskBy.jpg

Gabraceni - 7C - Ampere's Inheritance
B2 Carinae - A5B - Alvarado Reach
Kokary - 3 - Sawyer Beacon
Kruger 60 - B1 - Ehrenfried Kegel Horizons
70 Ophiuchi - Richardson - Leckie's Claim
Imani - B4 - Qian Point
Kagudi - AB4 - Spinrad Settlement
Gliese 900.1 - A11D - Hamilton Landing
Gender - A1 - Thollon Horizons
Wiknariu - 1F - Cheranovsky Stop
Ayu - 1D - Escobar Reach
Wolf 397 - Trus Madi - Gibson Prospect
 

djadjok

djadjok
BoingZebadee said:
Thanks to Devari for starting this thread as well as Djadjok and Dr Kaii for the follow up work.

Did the Industrial layouts last weekend and have organised them into an economical route. Perhaps not perfect but 3 are close together with two more pairs within 30 Ly of each settlement.

Industrial Layout - Overview Map http://i.imgur.com/AqlTEBZ.jpg - Scan Path Map http://i.imgur.com/ORyskBy.jpg

Gabraceni - 7C - Ampere's Inheritance
B2 Carinae - A5B - Alvarado Reach
Kokary - 3 - Sawyer Beacon
Kruger 60 - B1 - Ehrenfried Kegel Horizons
70 Ophiuchi - Richardson - Leckie's Claim
Imani - B4 - Qian Point
Kagudi - AB4 - Spinrad Settlement
Gliese 900.1 - A11D - Hamilton Landing
Gender - A1 - Thollon Horizons
Wiknariu - 1F - Cheranovsky Stop
Ayu - 1D - Escobar Reach
Wolf 397 - Trus Madi - Gibson Prospect
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Great work, Commander!
Just to note - complete list contains now 56 known locations of large industrial layout bases (medium security)

Also there is kind of map for all so far known systems with medium-high free-to-scan settlements (X-Z) projection, that can be also of help.
 
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Mikex88

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I don#t understand why it has to be +++ settlements.. since u can find MEF in +(mediumsecurity ) settlements too.
Massive D did a video on that.. that's how I got mine MEFs for the Multicannons.

The only problem for me is to find these small medium security settlements.
 
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