RNG is being RNG i guess and i just had an unlucky streak.
Engineers Medium Security Settlement List and Guide for Modified Embedded Firmware
- Thread starter Devari
- Start date
RNG is being RNG i guess and i just had an unlucky streak.
Today I have added new page to my mapping spreadsheet: "ED:H 2.1 BIG"
Content essentially repeats older "ED:H 2.1 Maps" version, but layout has been slightly changed
(+) now icons are in their original - bigger - sizes (128x128, more simply to distinguish different layouts)
(+) color coding added to icons
(+) added original layouts names and model sizes
(-) resulting color schema (corresponds to default elite mapping) irritates my eyes
also all raw data pages has been removed, charts replaced with static images, temporary pages with names look up tables is also removed
MEF Spreadsheet updated with:
Content essentially repeats older "ED:H 2.1 Maps" version, but layout has been slightly changed
(+) now icons are in their original - bigger - sizes (128x128, more simply to distinguish different layouts)
(+) color coding added to icons
(+) added original layouts names and model sizes
(-) resulting color schema (corresponds to default elite mapping) irritates my eyes
also all raw data pages has been removed, charts replaced with static images, temporary pages with names look up tables is also removed
MEF Spreadsheet updated with:
| Kharpulo | 4 G | L1M | Greenstein Oasis |
| Delta Pavonis | Gold | L3M | Ejeta Relay |
| Delta Pavonis | Gold | L4M2 | Burckhardt Point |
Last edited:
Not at all stupid question.
You encounter a "compromised data point" during your scan? Or you just haven't managed to do the full run in-time? In latter case you just need to restart whole procedure - so try again. If you've really encountered a "compromised" datapoint then I'll be glad if you'll share your observations.
PS: If the cause is really a "compromised data point" and you dont want to waste your time on that then you can simply relog or supercruise out and back in to the given settlement.
Last edited:
Maybe I did something wrong. I will see next time I fail.
other question : how do you know which type of settlement in your spreadsheet please ?
Thanks
Another good question.
Fist of all, I must admit I'm currently in process of maintaining already 6 google spreadsheets concerning ED, so it will be a good practice to mention which one of them is on-topic.
I can only suppose regarding this thread that you mean either settlement's mapping or MEF search spreadsheets=) (sorry for this big preamble)
If you mean mapping/classification:
There are (in general) three (3) parameters, that defines settlement's "look":
(1) Settlements size (available anywhere if that system is "explored") - in general case, just count "+" signs in given settlement's name (where "+++" means large)
(2) Settlement security level (available "in-system" in the nav.panel)
(3) Settlement's layout (BAP/Function/Economy - name this as you want) - available only when you have "direct visual" of a given settlement, ie 2-5 km's from TTD.
So far known facts (let me behave as having a foil hat on me)
There are only 20 different settlement's layouts (4 sizes), 5 for each settlement's size. So, upon arrival to a particular settlement you have size and security info. Ok, in reality a bit more complex< but normally you have to choose one from five. And for this icons (pictogrammes) has been created - they are in fact bit-mapped maps of the bird-eye settlement's maps. And the latest update in my mapping spreadsheet was all about this. Once you've visited some of them there will be no problem to classify them.
More descriptive methods of distinguishing different layouts will be available shortly.
If you mean MEF search spreadsheet - look in my mappings spreadsheet (with all comments above)
Yes sorry. I was talking about the ED: MEF canditates spreadhsheet, one of the first page.
I see only 2 links in the OP. Do not see the mapping one.
In fact, I wanted to know, from this spreadsheet if I could see the ones that are Exploration layout for instance.
Anyway, it is already a lot of good information so thanks a lot.
I see only 2 links in the OP. Do not see the mapping one.
In fact, I wanted to know, from this spreadsheet if I could see the ones that are Exploration layout for instance.
Anyway, it is already a lot of good information so thanks a lot.
I havent read the whole thread but I can confirm that MEF can be acquired from even small-medium security and medium-medium security settlements.
the one with "+" only ?
In fact its my fault - I tend to use my old coding for layout names - L1M,L3M, etc - instead of layout semi-official names.
For maps and layout coding/names the best place to start is the first link in my signature - ED Horizons settlements 2.1 (cmdr dja sidenotes) - there check the "ED:H BIG" page (you have the link to this doc both in "MEF candidates" spreadsheet and in the starting post of this thread).
And here are some explanations (better to draw once then produce pages of text)
hope this hepls
EDIT: sorry, forgot to add the link
Last edited:
Sounds very interesting (and promising). I haven't visited much of them since 2.1.05, but never ever encountered any MEF drop either. Sorry - but are you sure you don't mix MEF and MCF (modified consumer firmware)?
Very good stuff, thanks!
Just one comment : In your mapping file, L1M is yellow but in base list it is green. Am I missing something ? (i.e. Kruger 60)
Last edited:
No I dont. Was doing sabotage missions for the Eurybia Blue Mafia and just casually messing around with small/medium settlements and gathered around 9 in the process. i think 3 settlements dropped from like 4-5 I sabotaged. Im quite sure none of them were large settlements. I dont quite remember but security was low/medium in a mix. None of them were high security for sure.
Last edited:
Yep I've been picking up MEF from + and ++ Medium Security bases too. Last two I have notes for were: Amementi system, Clerk Laboratory + Medium... And Ansuz system Sarmiento de Gambia ++ Medium.
I was looking for maps of the settlements and stumbled upon the thread, superb work guys (and now know where the fifth Data Point in the large exploration settlements is
)... (But yes it seems MEF base level requirements have been lowered since the update).
I was looking for maps of the settlements and stumbled upon the thread, superb work guys (and now know where the fifth Data Point in the large exploration settlements is
)... (But yes it seems MEF base level requirements have been lowered since the update).In "MEF candidates" color means simply "treat level" of a given settlement type. "0" - green - means no treat at all - no reason to put up a fight, just running and scanning.
And on the settlement's icons - and now on the "BIG" mapping page - color reflects settlement's economy/function (same color scheme as by default used by FD on the galaxy map - yellow for industrial, magenta for military, red for extraction, light blue - high-tech/scientific, blue - civilian, orange - refinery, gray - "other", etc)
That is really sounds interesting. Some new FD droprate tweaks? I haven't visited many bases since 2.1.05 (~60 recorded), and I've stopped to pay much attention to medium/small - so I have no statistically correct data. But so far never encountered MEF drops from really medium/small bases (besides a known exception of "Medium Extraction" layout) - nor before, not after 2.1.05.
Sadly that you haven't recorded exactly where/which layout of bases you've got them.
Ok, so at least two evidence collected. The unknown parameters is the drop rate.Yep I've been picking up MEF from + and ++ Medium Security bases too. Last two I have notes for were: Amementi system, Clerk Laboratory + Medium... And Ansuz system Sarmiento de Gambia ++ Medium.
I was looking for maps of the settlements and stumbled upon the thread, superb work guys (and now know where the fifth Data Point in the large exploration settlements is
Don't know what is better to do - add some another 3-4 hundred bases from my own database to MEF candidates, or just wait for cmdr Themroc to add settlement's layout/security to eddb?
Really this day is full of surprises. Same system as above (Snoqui Xian), another - but this time small size - medium security settlement - once again MEF drop confirmed.
Thank you, commanders Soulkiller and Chaos for pointing out at those new facts.
However so far only low security never encountered to be a source for MEF.
Thank you, commanders Soulkiller and Chaos for pointing out at those new facts.
However so far only low security never encountered to be a source for MEF.
Highly depends on size.
Large size - normally no - not good for solo. Except as always "medium-in-fact-large" - M5H. Mainly depends on npc-ships presence. If no ships spotted, then one can try (like L3H - never defended by npc-ships, but 2 goliath present).
Hi-sec medium size - also depends on this factor. And presence on goliath-class skimmers. Ships can be present in one instance and absent in other.
Medium:
M4H, M6H - if no ships then can be done. M1H - don't remember, M3H is very rare but don't looks very dangerous. M2H - one goliath, but it looks as closed inside inner part.
Small:
S1M,S1H,S2H,S3H,S4H (no info on S5M/H) - fenced. So you need to fight trough.
But a base assault normally means bounty on you (if not anarchy). I'll add later free to scan small/medium bases to the list.