Met My First Hacker Today

Honestly, they need to rethink this name and shame policy they have. These people need to be outed to the community for the scum they are. They've lost whatever right they have to play the game.

what will stop that scum from naming and shaming you then ? Or any innocent player ?
 
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We were young and fools. Now we're professionals, and we don't work for free :)

Dude, I have had contracts where I did not get paid.
I have even gone pro bono (for charity and because I am a nice guy...lol)

They could offer bounties but I doubt anyone would ever see a dime!

If we do nothing, there will soon be nothing to play... I waited 30 years for this, my anger at FD is at least as much as yours. Yet if I knew the would listen, I may be persuaded to point them in the right direction.

I am willing to bet, if you got a call from Big Boy Dave Braben you would do the same. Just a few hints perhaps. At least he has a clue compared to all those "we don't need that" "you have watched to many movies" and the dreaded "We already have an EXPERT in the field" lol

For giggles: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/131781/the_internet_sucks_or_what_i_.php?print=1
"Third on our list of problems was that we would not have a dedicated server available; we would have to use a peer-to-peer network model. The expense of providing servers with sufficient processing power and bandwidth for our expected audience size was considered unreasonably high. And because of the nature of the license we were working with, allowing gamers to set up their own servers was not a viable alternative. A peer-to-peer system avoids the problem, but it poses a significantly more challenging engineering problem, because each player must communicate with several other players, instead of with a single server. Because the Internet does not have a viable multi-casting capability, sending the same message to three destinations requires three times as much bandwidth as sending it to a single destination...."

This is from what year? Bingo! 99! We're back in the 90s, awesome, those were my best years and I loved the music :p

Yep...
Those were the days, changing playlists on late night radio shows after they sacked the DJs and used digital tracks and playlists made months earlier.
The last days of pirate stations, as any idiot in a bedsit could jack the telephone line for free internet and use said stations as their own personal jukebox...

90's Italo dance all the way to 6 am...lol
 
This 100% - Hacking has been a huge problem in most major mmo releases lately and it has people paranoid. Look at it like this - most of those games have been f2p and if they get caught they just create a new account. That doesn't work in games like this and if you get caught hacking you are pretty much going to eat the cost of a new game if you want to start fresh from the sound of it.

True, though in games far worse than Elite, where leveling mattered such as DAOC and WoW in terms of being "punished" if you were caught, we still have had hackers.
 
At 63, I guess I fall in the "old people" category you are talking about. I am in computers since the 1980s, I have built all my PCs myself, have been programming with all kind of languages since DOS times, in my private life and in my job (on large company systems). I have also been gaming for 25 years almost daily. I know well how to use e-mail and I guess I could probably teach you one or two things. :)

I'm in my mid 50's & quite often get calls from my grown up kids who need help because their computer is playing up & "Dad will know what to do" Never failed yet'. Don't make the mistake of thinking us 'oldies' don't know what we're doing!
 
I don't think they don't now how, which adresses they are playing with in order alter things because it is a public site, you don't even need to create an account, they will probably let main server save some more values in certain areas inorder to prevent people from altering values client side.Which in the end might look like a job for a dedicated server.
 
Just report that idiots location, change in solo mode and let die from boredom or from manstrubating.

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Yeah, i wonder why it is possible in invert a masslock but not a wappon lock.

I did report the incident, but thats not ging to change the overall situation. Locking hardpoints in stations would be one way, and i dont think it would be unrealistic in the elite universe. making it an expensive experinece to deploy them or enter the station with deployed HP's + a single use of HP's inside the station leads to instant death + harsh fine would do it too.

Anyway this is a pretty bad experience and frustrating. But patching olish behaviour with software updates will never work completely. I will stay in open for now, but will pay much more attention.
 
The least bright gamer today knows how to use anti-virus. Only old people who barely know how to use e-mail get infected anymore. So no, it's not really a possibility for most people, no matter how hard you try to get infected. If you know how to protect yourself, which is pretty much as easy as running a decent anti-virus. For most of us we know what not to click, among other things, but you don't have to be smart anymore to not get infected. Looking for cheats isn't going to get most people in any trouble.
Was having fun reading this very interesting thread when I saw this abashed display of information security ignorance. I want to warn any of you young inexperienced users like this that poster that may be reading this. DO NOT rely on anti-virus for security. Yes, it is a good low-end base, but it has not been a protection for at least the last 5 years. Since consumer malware kits first came out in '09, kiddies have been able to create code that can bypass the best AV.
True, the only completely secure system is a boot from Linux live-dvd, but anyone on a Windows system that just downloads and relies on AV WILL be riddled with malware just as Marikic0 is and he does not even realize it...
 
Was having fun reading this very interesting thread when I saw this abashed display of information security ignorance. I want to warn any of you young inexperienced users like this that poster that may be reading this. DO NOT rely on anti-virus for security. Yes, it is a good low-end base, but it has not been a protection for at least the last 5 years. Since consumer malware kits first came out in '09, kiddies have been able to create code that can bypass the best AV. True, the only completely secure system is a boot from Linux live-dvd, but anyone on a Windows system that just downloads and relies on AV WILL be riddled with malware just as Marikic0 is and he does not even realize it...
Sandboxie is your friend. On a related note, WHY DOESN'T ED WORK IN SANDBOXIE?!
 
Dude, I have had contracts where I did not get paid.
I have even gone pro bono (for charity and because I am a nice guy...lol)

They could offer bounties but I doubt anyone would ever see a dime!

If we do nothing, there will soon be nothing to play... I waited 30 years for this, my anger at FD is at least as much as yours. Yet if I knew the would listen, I may be persuaded to point them in the right direction.

I am willing to bet, if you got a call from Big Boy Dave Braben you would do the same. Just a few hints perhaps. At least he has a clue compared to all those "we don't need that" "you have watched to many movies" and the dreaded "We already have an EXPERT in the field" lol

I can work for free for charity, not for a business company ;)

A bit of advice yes, why not, I have no problem with that.
 
Well not really surprised. If it would be a real MMO with servers then most fighting stuff would be determined by the server and the cheat would most likely not be possible. But being a peer 2 peer thingy to reduce costs for FD makes it vulnerable to all kinds of cheats. This will break the games neck like it did for NFSW and devs didn't do anything against it. If they would have cancelled online and made it offline only it would have been a way better decision for the games future, especially regarding the 'expertise' of FDEVs.
 
Call of Duty Modern Warfare II... the begining of the end. They promised so much, user made content, servers etc. I was running a website that specialised for the modding community. When CoD went peer 2 peer, the site slowly sank to nothing. Our entire reason to exist ceased. The people who made the game saved a fortune, ensured that users could not create maps etc. A whole generation of budding modders / game designers were kneecapped.

All CoD games from that moment on were so riddled with cheaters it was completely pointless playing.

IMHO P2P is the death of mulitplayer gaming. I understand why Elite: D has been rolled out for p2p, but is the biggest mistake, a false economy.

Ubisoft another example, useless MP flight sims, filled with cheaters and griefers.

There is no solution to the cheaters, if CoD can't manage it, with the highest grossing game of all time (at that time)... no one can.

Personally I play solo, and would cheerfully and prefer to play off line altogether.
 
Was having fun reading this very interesting thread when I saw this abashed display of information security ignorance. I want to warn any of you young inexperienced users like this that poster that may be reading this. DO NOT rely on anti-virus for security. Yes, it is a good low-end base, but it has not been a protection for at least the last 5 years. Since consumer malware kits first came out in '09, kiddies have been able to create code that can bypass the best AV.
True, the only completely secure system is a boot from Linux live-dvd, but anyone on a Windows system that just downloads and relies on AV WILL be riddled with malware just as Marikic0 is and he does not even realize it...
What is this FUD you're trying to spread?

Not to mention that you're wrong. The only truly secure system is inside a tempest-shielded box with no way to access from the outside.
 
What is this FUD you're trying to spread?

Not to mention that you're wrong. The only truly secure system is inside a tempest-shielded box with no way to access from the outside.

That or you could just...
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He was hanging out inside the George Lucas Sation in Leesti. Yes, inside. The station was firing on him as I entered, on his small viper craft. As I entered, my shields dropped very suddenly as a stream of dumbfires pounded my ship. I quickly spammed shield cells, but he still got my shields down and hull to 75% before I could dock and escape his attack. He sat, hovering over my landing pad, the station blasting his tiny viper the whole time. I thought maybe he had zipped out of the station, spamming shield cells to not get his ship destroyed, but no, the whole 5 minutes I sat in the docking bay he hovered overhead with all the station's turrets blasting him. As soon as I launched, there he was, blasting an endless stream of dumfires, I managed to dodge some and get my shield cells going agains, but they just kept coming with no time to reload and I eventually lost my ship.


Rebuy cost of 4 Mil.

I reported the player's name as soon as it happened.

This kind of problem is a game breaking issue as far as I'm concerned for games. If Frontier doesn't plan to address the issues of allowing the clients to dictate how much health, shields, ammo, etc. a player's ship has, the hackers are going to lead this game down a path that leads to more fair minded players deciding they have no option but to cheat as well. I'm not threatening you, Frontier; I'm not saying I'm going to hack my client like this. I am saying expect it to become the norm if you don't address the matter soon. A quick Google search makes it clear just how easily and extensively anyone can do this.

Cowards with dumbfires eh! It's amazing what kids will get up to to make up for the fact that they can't get a girlfriend.

BTW - I would strongly advise anyone reading this thread to ignore the advice to also cheat.
 
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