Metric system in Elite

amigacooke · Apr 12, 2018

Adhock said:
I believe the concept of President and Shadow President is based on Australia.

I think you need to check that.

Navigare Necesse Est · Apr 12, 2018

Han_Zen said:
At least half a snes.

Bless you. *Offers tissue.*

Frank · Apr 12, 2018

Raino said:
or 48000 Hut-kgs ...

germany sgot a minor issue with counting, even so failing has terrible impact

officially its > thousands, mils, milliards, billions, billiards ... (check here)

its no mystery to me why german banks go down ...

Does that mean when you have a game of billiards you have to use a bigger triangle?

Navynuke99 · Apr 12, 2018

Jacques d'Orleans said:
The US Armed Forces and also NASA (and US scientists in general) already used the metric system in the 20 century, so they just had to teach it to the civilians, well the few remaining ones after Kaboom 3.0.

We did? Because on my ship, in 2001, we used nautical miles, yards, feet, gallons, degrees F, Psi, and long tons.

drakhyr · Apr 12, 2018

CMDR Redcrest said:
As long as I get my beer in pints in the pub I'm quite content for everything else to be in metric.
A pint's the perfect amount for beer.

One of the problems with Imperial / US Standard units is that they aren't the same all over the world. You probably expect your beer in Imperial (British) pints, and would be quite disappointed if you only got an American pint...

[Imperial pint = 568ml, US pint = 473ml]

XW_Ziggy · Apr 12, 2018

Shadowdancer said:
It's not like either was particularly "metric", both use highly local and ambiguous units (1AU and "year") in their original definitions.

The metric system is in many ways devised from the dimensions of planet earth, or a common substance (water)

Celcius and Kelvin are based on dividing the liquid state of water into 100 units.
Meter is based on the earth's dimensions (equator to pole / 10Million)
Metric mass is based on the density of water (1g = 1cm^3)
Time is based on integer subdivisions of the earth's rotation about its axis (day) and orbit around the sun (year)

So, uh (or should that be *duh*?) Metric is defined by planet earth, and since that's where humans originated from, it obviously makes sense that it's in use in human space.

BarFly · Apr 12, 2018

hello,

Navynuke99 said:
We did? Because on my ship, in 2001, we used nautical miles, yards, feet, gallons, degrees F, Psi, and long tons.

You already know, that the USA is in the NATO and that it makes lot of sense to talk about the same units?And that the anachronism of the USA is just stupid?

Shinji Ikari · Apr 12, 2018

Frank said:
Not 1AU as in one Astronomical Unit
but IAU as in International Astronomical Union

The AU and the parsec are based on the movement of the Earth. But then the metre is also based on the Earth. It's one ten-millionth of the distance from the equator to the North Pole

It was based on the Earth. The AU is a fixed multiple of meters that is the radius of Earths orbit roughly speaking so that's why it has a fixed number.

Conch said:
The funny thing is the imperial system needs metric to be accurate.. while metric uses silicate to determine how many atoms are in it to accurately say what a kilogram is.

Metric > imperial
Deal with it.

That silicon ball idea never came to be but at least we are soon leaving the platinum/iridium cilinder definition.

Vedmo · Apr 12, 2018

drakhyr said:
One of the problems with Imperial / US Standard units is that they aren't the same all over the world. You probably expect your beer in Imperial (British) pints, and would be quite disappointed if you only got an American pint...

[Imperial pint = 568ml, US pint = 473ml]

The thing that most impressed me when I was in England years ago was the official looking line marking one pint on the glasses. I knew then Americans had a long way to go before ever even trying to pretend to be as accomplished beer drinkers.

Shinji Ikari · Apr 12, 2018

Conch said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMByI4s-D-Y

[video=youtube;Oo0jm1PPRuo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo0jm1PPRuo[/video]

ogrando · Apr 12, 2018

XW_Ziggy said:
The metric system is in many ways devised from the dimensions of planet earth, or a common substance (water)

Celcius and Kelvin are based on dividing the liquid state of water into 100 units.
Meter is based on the earth's dimensions (equator to pole / 10Million)
Metric mass is based on the density of water (1g = 1cm^3)
Time is based on integer subdivisions of the earth's rotation about its axis (day) and orbit around the sun (year)

So, uh (or should that be *duh*?) Metric is defined by planet earth, and since that's where humans originated from, it obviously makes sense that it's in use in human space.

the meter has been redefined as the distance traveled by light in a vacuum over a time interval of 1/299 792 458 of a second. this beacuse it is a more universal definition

XW_Ziggy · Apr 12, 2018

Redefined, yes. But that doesn't change their origin.

Shinji Ikari · Apr 12, 2018

XW_Ziggy said:
Redefined, yes. But that doesn't change their origin.

We have to start from somewhere.

The best we could do is to use multiples of fundamental units like the Plank units but so far we've been doing well.

Navynuke99 · Apr 12, 2018

BarFly said:
hello,

You already know, that the USA is in the NATO and that it makes lot of sense to talk about the same units?And that the anachronism of the USA is just stupid?

I wasn't attempting to argue about whether or not it's stupid for the US to continue using Standard units, I was addressing the error in the post I'd quoted.

Also, for the record, NATO countries still use the foot, mile, and MPH in aviation.

Infernium · Apr 12, 2018

I humbly submit to this forum the use of the Hadoken as a unit of power measurement.

BarFly · Apr 12, 2018

Navynuke99 said:
I wasn't attempting to argue about whether or not it's stupid for the US to continue using Standard units, I was addressing the error in the post I'd quoted.

Also, for the record, NATO countries still use the foot, mile, and MPH in aviation.

The US is NOT using 'Standard' units. The US is using the odd units. world wide standard is the metric system.
And on the ground? And much more important for the spare parts and all the other stuff that is supposed to fit NATO wide?

Clifra Jones · Apr 12, 2018

Stigbob said:
Space is metric.

NASA and organizations like it are military spinoffs. The military use metric because it's much easier doing things like range estimates in your head accurately in units of a thousand meters rather than in imperial with it's sixteen hundred and something yards. You can see how this would be an advantage in things like remote artillery fire direction.

It's a more efficient system.

It is easier in everything! I don't measure in inches when doing home-improvement work anymore as I cannot do the math in my head and no calculator does imperial fractions (It irritates me when I cant find a metric tape measure). Metric is just so easy. What most Americans (yes I am one) don't realize is that they use the metric system every day. Our monetary system is metric and no ones seems to have an issue with that!

Watchdog · Apr 12, 2018

rootsrat said:
We actually use milliards > billions in Poland as well

Same here in the Czech Republic.

Fyren · Apr 12, 2018

FNLWA said:
I really like this image, puts things in perspective: https://i.imgur.com/fhxkMtn.jpg

Bonus points if you can name those two countries in asia and africa without looking them up.

Should add Canada in green... Not fun...

I drive at 100 km/h.

I'm 5'-10".

My house is built using a whole lot of 2X4's and 2X6's.

I cook my meals at 350^of and I get grumpy when it's over 30^oc outside.

Got 2ft of snow last month and 10mm of rain yesterday.

Siranui · Apr 12, 2018

Fyren said:
Should add Canada in green... Not fun...

I drive at 100 km/h.

I'm 5'-10".

My house is built using a whole lot of 2X4's and 2X6's.

I cook my meals at 350^of and I get grumpy when it's over 30^oc outside.

Got 2ft of snow last month and 10mm of rain yesterday.

I weigh myself in rocks...