Game Discussions Microsoft Flight Simulator

askavir

askavir
Mengy said:
I use an online app called FSE (Flight Sim Economy) to make my flight sims into an RPG or virtual pilot career of sorts. Been flying with FSE for over ten years now in both FSX and P3D, and next week with the new MFS.

Buy a plane and fly jobs from airport to airport while paying for gas, maintentance, and repairs. Just a little GA pilot trying to make a living and keep my plane flying! Much like a flying version of Euro Truck, which is probably why I enjoy it so much!
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that's actually pretty cool, the main downside of these kind of sims to me it was always the lack of some kind of more "structured" gameplay, some sense of purpose. Mixing up FS2020 with "truck sim" gameplay is rather cool. "Microsoft Flight!" has this mind of gameplay career/mission mode, but it sucked bad as a flight sim. Still I remember fondly flying around Hawaii in my Icon A5 (that's why it will precisely be the very first plane I'll try on FS2020).

However, I'm not really in for the long haul airliner flights. Longest flights I would probably make would be something like between islands in the same archipelago. I'm more of a small plane, short tourism flights, "point A to point A" virtual pilot :) I'm very looking forward to the virtual earth so I can fly this kind of routes:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIEpyUXRhog
(but using small planes instead of helis).
 

Mengy

Mengy
askavir said:
However, I'm not really in for the long haul airliner flights. Longest flights I would probably make would be something like between islands in the same archipelago. I'm more of a small plane, short tourism flights, "point A to point A" virtual pilot :)
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Yep, this is why I love FSE as it's really geared heavily towards GA flying in small planes, I ignore the heavy iron altogether in flight sims. Most of my FSE jobs are short hops between tiny airports, usually in mountainous areas like Idaho or Alaska. I rarely get more than a few thousand feet off the ground, in fact most flights I stay below the cloud layer!

With the visual VFR fidelity the new MFS has my flights are going to be simply BREATHTAKING starting next week. Time to explore the virtual Earth from a few hundred feet off the ground!
 

Iron Golem

Iron Golem
[VR] optimal_909 said:
Mine too, I don't even start listing them.
My 'Beagle Point', a destination that remained elusive for me IRL too are the Marquises.

This is for example Nuku Hiva... looks as exotic and beautiful as its name sounds. :)
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Wow beautiful, I wonder how well bing will render tropical areas and jungle etc. Can't wait to find out. I just hope when it comes to xbox it doesn't melt lol.

I'd try it on the computer but not sure a 1660ti can do it justice. Trying to hold off on a full system upgrade till well after the nvidia three series is up and running.
 

[VR] optimal_909

[VR] optimal_909
Iron Golem said:
Wow beautiful, I wonder how well bing will render tropical areas and jungle etc. Can't wait to find out. I just hope when it comes to xbox it doesn't melt lol.

I'd try it on the computer but not sure a 1660ti can do it justice. Trying to hold off on a full system upgrade till well after the nvidia three series is up and running.
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Having checked how inferior Bing is vs. Google Maps, they have already done a miracle at Asobo. Probably it will be a hit&miss, but even compromised scenery will be beautiful just because of the gorgeous lighting and clouds.

Hardware is a worry for me too as I'll want to play it in VR... what will it need, possibly a 3090 SLI combo for mere $3-4k? :)
 

Iron Golem

Iron Golem
[VR] optimal_909 said:
Having checked how inferior Bing is vs. Google Maps, they have already done a miracle at Asobo. Probably it will be a hit&miss, but even compromised scenery will be beautiful just because of the gorgeous lighting and clouds.

Hardware is a worry for me too as I'll want to play it in VR... what will it need, possibly a 3090 SLI combo for mere $3-4k? :)
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I've been streaming to the tv through steam link, the 1660 Ti kills most games I play in ultra at 1080p which is all the physical link can handle and its working out great. I'll try it on the Xbox and if it's too painful I'll try it with the pc. The cool thing about the game pass is you get the pc and xbox side. I can even play two of the same game at once simultaneously on each platform with my daughter (Which is why I got it in the first place) and its turning out to be one of the better gaming investments I have made.
 

[VR] optimal_909

[VR] optimal_909
Iron Golem said:
I've been streaming to the tv through steam link, the 1660 Ti kills most games I play in ultra at 1080p which is all the physical link can handle and its working out great. I'll try it on the Xbox and if it's too painful I'll try it with the pc. The cool thing about the game pass is you get the pc and xbox side. I can even play two of the same game at once simultaneously on each platform with my daughter (Which is why I got it in the first place) and its turning out to be one of the better gaming investments I have made.
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I think the standard XBox won't run it properly, the new Series X or whatever it is called should be very decent though.
This game's magic lies IMHO in the atmoshperic lighting effects, and that is a resource hog. In 1080p, your 1660ti will probably be OK though.
I'm expecting high-ish settings on 1440p via my 1080ti, but VR is on another level of load on the GPU.

I was toying with the XBox game pass, but I wouldn't use its library enough, and my kids are still too young for gaming.
 

Iron Golem

Iron Golem
[VR] optimal_909 said:
I think the standard XBox won't run it properly, the new Series X or whatever it is called should be very decent though.
This game's magic lies IMHO in the atmoshperic lighting effects, and that is a resource hog. In 1080p, your 1660ti will probably be OK though.
I'm expecting high-ish settings on 1440p via my 1080ti, but VR is on another level of load on the GPU.

I was toying with the XBox game pass, but I wouldn't use its library enough, and my kids are still too young for gaming.
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I have the Xbox One X. It does 4k 30 fps in Rdr2, NMS and Forza Horizon 4 which I enjoy. Having 4k on the big screen kind of ruined me because now going back to my computer monitor feels weenie and playing pc on the tv in 1080 leaves a lot to be desired.

Curious to see the performance of it on FS.
 

Old Duck

Old Duck
askavir said:
that's actually pretty cool, the main downside of these kind of sims to me it was always the lack of some kind of more "structured" gameplay, some sense of purpose. Mixing up FS2020 with "truck sim" gameplay is rather cool.
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My personal goal is to revisit all the various places I've been throughout my life, along with visiting new places I may never get to. To make this more realistic, challenging, and fun, I'm considering doing this without any teleportation. In other words, I'll take off from my home airport and fly myself to wherever I want to go. So this means if I want to revisit Europe (I'm American), I'll need to fly from my home airport to JFK, and then take a jet from JFK to Rome, and back again when I want to return to the states. This is going to require some serious self-control, because I can think of a TON of really cool places I'd love to just "teleport" into, like the Great Wall of China, but I feel my way will be much more rewarding in the long run.
 

Juniper

Juniper
[VR] optimal_909 said:
Having checked how inferior Bing is vs. Google Maps, they have already done a miracle at Asobo. Probably it will be a hit&miss, but even compromised scenery will be beautiful just because of the gorgeous lighting and clouds.
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Apparently there is a "world update" coming for the game in a couple of weeks. As Bing add more data, that gets integrated into their game through their machine learning algorithm.


The above is a dev interview with the lead developer & product manager of it. I had no idea it's the same people that were behind 'A Plague Tale: Innocence'. Colour me more excited.

They suggest the best thing to do to start is go home. See your house, see where you grew up, see areas that are familiar to you but have a different perspective from the air. It's what I intend to do, and I imagine lots of other people will too. Also, a game is coming. This is just the simulator part.

[VR] optimal_909 said:
Hardware is a worry for me too as I'll want to play it in VR... what will it need, possibly a 3090 SLI combo for mere $3-4k? :)
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VR support is in a few months apparently. Initially for the MS/Valve/HP headset, and then later the others like Rift, Vive etc. I also suspect VorpX will have numerous profiles in fairly short order.

This is a game for the long haul flight.
 
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[VR] optimal_909

[VR] optimal_909
Juniper said:
Apparently there is a "world update" coming for the game in a couple of weeks. As Bing add more data, that gets integrated into their game through their machine learning algorithm.


The above is a dev interview with the lead developer & product manager of it. I had no idea it's the same people that were behind 'A Plague Tale: Innocence'. Colour me more excited.

They suggest the best thing to do to start is go home. See your house, see where you grew up, see areas that are familiar to you but have a different perspective from the air. It's what I intend to do, and I imagine lots of other people will too. Also, a game is coming. This is just the simulator part.
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Good video, will take time tomorrow to watch it. I've seen another in which they confirmed they are working on seasons too. It is almost unbelievable that they are doing this 'only' for a game.
I intend to go through the flight lessons first, then explore my home area, doing short flights, try various simple planes...
Then depart along this route that touches most of my best/most memorable travel destinations and a slight bit more. I will try to fly small planes, the only exception is the Pacific leg, that will require a TBM 930. :)
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Juniper said:
VR support is in a few months apparently. Initially for the MS/Valve/HP headset, and then later the others like Rift, Vive etc. I also suspect VorpX will have numerous profiles in fairly short order.

This is a game for the long haul flight.
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I have a Reverb G2 on preorder since early July, and it is said to ship by end of September - VR will be WMR/G2 exclusive for a few months. So here is hope that I will get it from the first batch of supplies. :)
But I will have to make difficult decisions unless I upgrade my GPU... I will probably go for 50-70% downsampling with a mix low/medium settings, but clouds on high and see if it can maintain 90fps.
 
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