Mining Question... Locations!

Hi, I have a question regarding mining, for all you miners out there. Is it better to use a tool to locate, say, LT Diamond Hotspots or is it all the same if I just randomly pick a system that meets the requirements to have LT's? Does it really matter? I am just starting out with mining, ready to go out and find some LTD's, but, the nearest location, according to the mining website tool shows the location about 11 jumps away. Not big deal, 11 jumps is fine, BUT, maybe, if I just search random Icy Rings around closer locations, I'll find LTDs, and maybe even in better quantities than if I were to fly to the Tool's suggested location.

Not sure how all the mining works I guess is what I am saying. Go with the Tool, or just GO and find? I am certainly going with a SELL tool, but what's really the best way to find a good mining spot?! If the website mining tool suggests a HotSpot, then I assume everyone else is seeing the same thing and will head there. I am playing in Solo, but I did read somewhere that even in Solo, mining resources can be depleted by Open Players. So, what's the point of heading to the Tool's suggested "Hotspot", if everyone else is too?

Thanks!
 
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Mining resources aren't depleted. That's why people keep mining the same places.
So, is it OK to just search locations for mining spots, or is it better to use the a website tool? I gotta assume the Tool is just players reporting on mining spots they've found, where there could be a better location for LTD, or Painite or Void Opals, say right in the next system no one knows about? I was out several weeks ago, just doing some scanning and hit a Ring that had several Void Opals HotSpots in the ring. I checked that location against an online Mining tool and that system did not even show up. So, I assume it's really just random.
 
Core rocks respawn every 6 days
Laser rocks return after 2 hours and are ONLY removed for the player that mined them for that time..
There no depletion...

Ice rings were nerfed thats why LTD smeg. NO other reason.. just the nerf done to ICE rings...
 
@OP - all equivalent mining spots are equal (e.g double painite hotspot vs double painite hotspot) but reason many ppl use the mining tool is because faster than trying to find your own 'undiscovered' spots.

LTD is nerfed at the moment but using just as example, there were only a few known x3 LTD locations (believe it was 3) before the nerf. Similar for x2 or double painite hotspots, only half dozen known locations.

So while you could, and should certainly do so if that's what you enjoy, go exploring to find your won undiscovered x2 or x3 hotspot, odds are it would take awhile. They recently tried to reduce overlap yields to make single hotspots better alternative, but in my own tests I found for example x2 painite still yields considerably more than single x1 hotspot.

If you don't care, mine where ever. If you do care about higher yeilds, then really you want to stick with overlap double or triple hotspots - and without the known locations via mining tool a player could search for quite awhile before running across an equivalent spot.
 
Egg was a total exploit of game mechanics and doesn't exist anymore. Thankfully.

Honest advice - if you're brand new to mining, go find any icy ring anywhere. Find a pristine one for best results. But they are everywhere.

At the moment you are going to be working out how mining works, all the different tools, limpets, ways, distributor etc. So, stick to learning that in a simple pristine ice ring, no need to hotspot it.

You'll make a shedload of cash and learn the way it all works. And you'll experience pirates coming after you, where it doesn't matter if you crap your pants and lose the ship! Trust me, it's much more painful if you spent longer and travelled ten times as far to just lose the same anyway.

Get used to it, then once you know how it works, go to trying hotspots, then overlaps, and core mining etc. I'm not saying it because I think you're stupid, it's just better to learn it in phases so your losses aren't so sucky!!

It's up to you though of course - and I expect someone will tell you I'm being prohibitive in my advice. But really, I just don't want you to lose everything doing something that takes ten times longer than it needs be, just to learn the process. Once you have tried it and understand what you're doing better, go on to hunt higher stuff. You'll also appreciate it more imho.

Good luck OP,
The Hat :)
 
Egg was a total exploit of game mechanics and doesn't exist anymore. Thankfully.

Honest advice - if you're brand new to mining, go find any icy ring anywhere. Find a pristine one for best results. But they are everywhere.

At the moment you are going to be working out how mining works, all the different tools, limpets, ways, distributor etc. So, stick to learning that in a simple pristine ice ring, no need to hotspot it.

You'll make a shedload of cash and learn the way it all works. And you'll experience pirates coming after you, where it doesn't matter if you crap your pants and lose the ship! Trust me, it's much more painful if you spent longer and travelled ten times as far to just lose the same anyway.

Get used to it, then once you know how it works, go to trying hotspots, then overlaps, and core mining etc. I'm not saying it because I think you're stupid, it's just better to learn it in phases so your losses aren't so sucky!!

It's up to you though of course - and I expect someone will tell you I'm being prohibitive in my advice. But really, I just don't want you to lose everything doing something that takes ten times longer than it needs be, just to learn the process. Once you have tried it and understand what you're doing better, go on to hunt higher stuff. You'll also appreciate it more imho.

Good luck OP,
The Hat :)
Man, really, that Egg is gone? Wow. I outfitted my ship last night, flew all the way there (there are dozens of ships parked at that location) and parked on a planet next to where that Egg, I guess was, and was going to start mining it this morning. This is crazy. I am about done with this game. This is not an exploit, this is a means for people to enjoy the game and these DEVs come in a just ruin it for people. I get the game is called "Elite", which means, to me, that you've really put some time and effort into becoming "Elite", but damn, what was that Egg hurting? It was giving people HOPE to make some money and have fun. Just sad, really really sad, that Frontier kills all these things that actually help people have fun, instead of frustrating people. I have several friends that REFUSE to play Elite Dangerous anymore just because the developers seem to go out of their way to ruin the FUN, and just turn it into a grind. It's one thing to fix bugs, another thing to un-fix FUN and enjoyment. Just my opinion, I am sure more hard core guys will disagree, but then I bet those Hard Core guys have milked that Egg a few hundred times themselves! And thank you for the advice, I am not a bad miner... I have it down pretty well, except, I am not very good AT ALL with Core Deposit extraction, where you need to set charges to blow apart the asteroid, I DO need work on that for dang sure! ;)
 
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Learn what type of rings give what kinds of hotspots. LTD/Void Opals/Tritium are found in Icy rings. Preferably pristine, for obvious reasons, but never "depleted" or low. Not worth the time/yield. Any rings count, so long as they're the type you're looking for.
 
If you find mining fun, you will not need to find an "egg" to exploit. Mining is partly a mini exploration game where part of the fun is scanning rings, finding hot spots and then diving into them to poke around for riches. Anyone who thinks "egg" exploitation makes mining fun are not into this for the mining. They just want to get rich quick. I have never used that exploit and never will. It removes the actual fun of mining if you just sit there and harvest the same rock over and over again.
 
Man, really, that Egg is gone? Wow. I outfitted my ship last night, flew all the way there (there are dozens of ships parked at that location) and parked on a planet next to where that Egg, I guess was, and was going to start mining it this morning. This is crazy. I am about done with this game. This is not an exploit, this is a means for people to enjoy the game and these DEVs come in a just ruin it for people. I get the game is called "Elite", which means, to me, that you've really put some time and effort into becoming "Elite", but damn, what was that Egg hurting? It was giving people HOPE to make some money and have fun. Just sad, really really sad, that Frontier kills all these things that actually help people have fun, instead of frustrating people. I have several friends that REFUSE to play Elite Dangerous anymore just because the developers seem to go out of their way to ruin the FUN, and just turn it into a grind. It's one thing to fix bugs, another thing to un-fix FUN and enjoyment. Just my opinion, I am sure more hard core guys will disagree, but then I bet those Hard Core guys have milked that Egg a few hundred times themselves! And thank you for the advice, I am not a bad miner... I have it down pretty well, except, I am not very good AT ALL with Core Deposit extraction, where you need to set charges to blow apart the asteroid, I DO need work on that for dang sure! ;)

I was going to make a comment along the lines of "why did I bother writing all that", but you saved yourself mate, by not throwing a total spaz over it lol! It was an exploit though bud, even an eggsploit one might say... but you're entitled to your opinion, I'm not going to rebuke you for it!

Anyway, enough about calcified chicken poops ;) I am not good at core mining either - I just get great satisfaction from blowing the crap out of things, so always overdo it! I would recommend trying to improve on it though, as I believe the rewards are substantially bigger when you're good at it, unlike me.

As you're not virginal to mining, it'll make your job easier, as you shouldn't get the brown pants moment now lol! But, like the chap above suggested, try mining different ring types so it becomes second nature to know where stuff is to be found. Then you'll be quicker and more efficient - it sounds like a parent comment, but it's true, and I used to mine before core rocks came in the game, so it's even more variety now. It's satisfying seeing missions that you can do for great cash alongside your mining run too.

Plus, it's good to know what materials drop from each ring type - often overlooked, but very useful to know.

At this point then, my recommendation is to try laser mining some painite. Some say you get more in a hotspot, I can't confirm or deny. But, you still need to find the same right ring type. I'll help and say metallic is what you want - pristine is best - no offense but do you know where to find the reserve status of rings etc? It's crucial.

You will also find the other Ps and Osmium there - used to be called 3P&O mining - painite, platinum, palladium, and Osmium. Very lucrative, and all profit.

If you're in eggland, try the nearby areas for a pristine metallic. Scan and surface scan there, and fill yer boots young man! Yes it isn't extreme diamonding, but it's good and you'll learn all refinery and limpet management too.

Once you have done that, retrofit for core mining and try that too. I'd suggest doing any old crappy cores first that contain old socks, as unless you're very skilled, you'll blow them up lol! (Remember to reverse before it blows, unless you really want immersion lol!).

Hope this helps mate, but try not to get suckered in by the get-rich quick guff online. Trust me it's better finding out yourself, and a lot more gold for the soul. Drop me a pm if I can help any more, but this should help start you going. Cheers,
The Hat :)
 
If you find mining fun, you will not need to find an "egg" to exploit. Mining is partly a mini exploration game where part of the fun is scanning rings, finding hot spots and then diving into them to poke around for riches. Anyone who thinks "egg" exploitation makes mining fun are not into this for the mining. They just want to get rich quick. I have never used that exploit and never will. It removes the actual fun of mining if you just sit there and harvest the same rock over and over again.
I don't find mining "fun", it's my least favorite thing to do and yes, I would love to get "rich" mining the same "Egg" over and over. It would be very helpful and reduce the time I need to spend flying all over God's creation trying to find spots to mine. I think this Egg thing is fine, have no problem with it, and it's very helpful for some people that don't have hours upon hours to put into this. I have a life, a business, a girlfriend and a zillion other hings I need to do...if there's ONE thing that can make my Elite Dangerous experience better and help me make progress without putting 10,000 hours into this, then what's it going to hurt? I am not saying just give everyone the best ship in the game, complete with all the Engineering, for free, no, you still have to MINE, you still have to work at it, but it's helpful to making the entire process a bit more enjoyable and less painful. I have over 1000 hours into this game, and I will say, that in the last 3 weeks, I have gone from almost nothing to a fully engineered Krait MKII and spent countless hours doing it. I DO feel like that time spent has given me a more "Elite" experience, but still, the way I got there was re-logging for materials, like a Dav's Hope. Why would the DEVs allow Dav's Hope, where you can just run the course, log out and log back in and run it again, and again and again, but yet, kill this Egg? There are MANY places in the game where you can gather, log out and back in and gather more. Why is this any different for the "Egg"? I don't get FDEV and what they consider "acceptable" game play and what they consider an "exploit", if you can re-log and keep doing it over and over, then would this NOT be an "Exploit"? Why not just kill re-logging and see how long players stick around?!
 
If there are ways to do things in the game you don’t find ”right”, then don’t do them! You don’t have to find stuff at Dav’s hope! It’s your choice - and it’s much better than complaining. You are free, m8!

You don’t HAVE to do exploits just because they exist! I haven’t done exploits in games for about 36 years. It’s possible you know :) .
 
I'd quietly suggest hitting something else a lot more than the egg, especially as it doesn't exist anymore anyway ;)
I hear you, I am about to go check the area anyway, just to double check, but if you say it's gone, I trust that. There's literally well over two dozen Fleet Carriers parked next to "The Egg", so I assume there's a lot of disappointed players. Anyway, I would LOVE to hear a player's take on re-logging and how that's fine, but one damn egg asteroid is not. People say they would never take advantage of this egg... but I promise you, they have taken hours of advantage on re-logging for G4/5 Materials, and somehow this is fine. It's the same concept, except, the Egg is credits and the re-log is Materials gathering, but really, what's the difference between the two? They are both ways to "cheat" the game, right? And as far as someone finding a Golden Egg... who cares, who really cares?! You still need to outfit your ship, fly all the way there, put in the mining work, deal with Pirates, fly your butt all the way to the highest selling station, all the way fuel scooping and dealing with LYs of travel and interdiction, etc., so you can make a few Elite bucks. I don't think it's hurting anything or anyone and there's still work to do. It's not like you just fly by the Egg and presto, your cargo is full of LTD, right? I just don't get it. It's OK to sit and scan G5 data, over and over with a re-log, just dumb time spent scanning the same thing over and over... WAY WAY less work than going out and mining this asteroid, but, because you can get "Rich"... well, we're not going to have any of that!
 
If there are ways to do things in the game you don’t find ”right”, then don’t do them! You don’t have to find stuff at Dav’s hope! It’s your choice - and it’s much better than complaining. You are free, m8!

You don’t HAVE to do exploits just because they exist! I haven’t done exploits in games for about 36 years. It’s possible you know :) .
Without the ability to re-log, the game would be a NIGHTMARE of grinding and the DEVs know that, or they would remove the ability to gather and then re-log to gather more. They would have players bailing from this game in droves if they didn't leave that alone, but ONE egg of diamonds, NOPE! Sorry, we're NOT going to have that! A game should be fun, and challenging but not outright painful and frustrating. Was this egg a mistake or just a find? Did some DEV mess up some code and create the Golden Egg, or did it just happen to be found and give hope to players that don't have time to play for 1000's of hours? It's messed up if you ask me. I am not looking for the easy way to Riches, but if there's a good asteroid in the game that helps make some cash, so what? That's great IMO, and is not hurting anything. And good for you, if you've been playing for 36 years and have NEVER once taken advantage of a quick way to progress your game. That's truly "Elite" right there! I don't have 36 years left in my life!
 
Well, I tried.
Ha! I appreciate it, but let me ask you this question... let's say you need the following materials: 17 Guardian Power Cells, 20 Guardian Tech Components and 24 Pattern Delta Obelisk Data, OK? OK, so, you're at a Guardian Ruin site that has all this, BUT, you can only get a little bit of it UNLESS you re-log to re-spawn the rest of what you need, and you'll probably have to re-log several times to gather it ALL. What are you going to do? Will you re-log, or are you saying that you would not, and would be happy with what you got and look for another Guardian Ruin site to get the rest, maybe several sites, hundreds (thousands maybe) of LYs apart, to gather all these needed materials? I just want to know, what would YOU do? Re-log or grind LYs of travel?
 
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