More Likes Relationships

Adding Likes relationships between specific dinosaurs that dislike each others' categories:
  • Chasmosaurus and Pachyrhinosaurus
  • Chasmosaurus and Styracosaurus
  • Pachyrhinosaurus and Styracosaurus
  • Apatosaurus and Brachiosaurus
  • Camarasaurus and Brachiosaurus
  • Parasaurolophus and Maiasaura
  • Chungkingosaurus and Gigantspinosaurus
  • Gigantspinosaurus and Huayangosaurus

Given the fact that there are the Likes relationships of the dinosaur species above in Update 3, I was wondering anyone here want the following Likes relationships:

  • Acrocanthosaurus and Carcharodontosaurus
  • Albertosaurus and Qianzhousaurus
  • Apatosaurus and Camarasaurus
  • Dilophosaurus and Velociraptor
  • Dracorex and Stygimoloch
  • Dracorex and Pachycephalosaurus
  • Homalocephale and Dracorex
  • Homalocephale and Stygimoloch
  • Homalocephale and Pachycephalosaurus
  • Pachycephalosaurus and Stygimoloch
  • Polacanthus and Sauropelta
  • Ichthyosaurus and Plesiosaurus
  • Torosaurus and Triceratops

Anyone here who can think of other Likes relationships to propose, do not hesitate to share them.
 
Hmm... some of those make sense... others, not so much. I mean, why would Dilophosaurus and Velociraptor like each other? Personally, I'd stick to animals we know existed together in real life...

  • Diplodocus and Brachiosaurus
I find it odd how Apatosaurus and Camarasaurus now like Brachiosaurus, but Diplodocus does not...

  • Dryosaurus and Stegosaurus
  • Dryosaurus and Brachiosaurus
  • Dryosaurus and Camarasaurus
  • Parasaurolophus and Euoplocephalus
  • Corythosaurus and Euoplocephalus
  • Edmontosaurus and Euoplocephalus
  • Edmontosaurus and Ankylosaurus
  • Iguanodon and Polacanthus
  • Muttaburrasaurus and Minmi
  • Struthiomimus and Euoplocephalus
Ornithopods are often depicted as moving with the larger and/or armored animals they co-existed with for protection... seems reasonable to assume ornithomimids like Struthiomimus might have done similar...

  • Parasaurolophus and Corythosaurus
Depicting various co-existing hadrosaurs in mixed herds is a very old concept; one shown to happen in Jurassic Park 3...

  • Ichthyosaurus and Plesiosaurus
  • Ichthyosaurus and Attenborosaurus
They co-existed... and honestly, it's hard to imagine these three attacking each other in real life... I mean, they're all fish eaters... they should only be fighting if there is a lack of food, not because they're in the same space.

  • Mamenchisaurus and Gigantspinosaurus
  • Ouranosarus and Nigersaurus
  • Pachycephalosaurus and Stygimoloch
  • Therizinosaurus and Gallimimus
  • Therizinosaurus and Homalocephale
  • Tapejara and Cearadactylus
  • Tapejara and Tropeognathus
  • Cearadactylus and Tropeognathus
Mostly just a bunch of animals that existed at the same general time and location in real life. I'd also like to add Wuerhosaurus and Dsungaripterus... although, that's not a pairing that can be done normally in game...
 
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I don't think there should be any large carnivores that get along too well. Certain small/medium carnos might make sense if there's a Lion-Hyena style cohabitation, but I don't think Dilophosaurus and Velociraptor is one of those situations (and also note that Lions and Hyenas don't cohabitate in captivity).

The only one I can think of that needs to be added is Parasaurolophus and Corythosaurus, but that's by no means exhaustive.
 
Corytosaurus x Parasaurolophus(Like JPIII). Also Triceratops x Sinoceratops x Nasutoceratops(like JWD) and Pteranodon x Dimorphodon(like JW). Also i think ceratopsid should another kind of herbivore.(Hadrosaurid or Sauropods)
 
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I don't think there should be any large carnivores that get along too well. Certain small/medium carnos might make sense if there's a Lion-Hyena style cohabitation, but I don't think Dilophosaurus and Velociraptor is one of those situations (and also note that Lions and Hyenas don't cohabitate in captivity).

The only one I can think of that needs to be added is Parasaurolophus and Corythosaurus, but that's by no means exhaustive.
I don't really consider lions and hyenas to be cohabitating species even in the wild since lions have been known to kill hyenas without eating them.
 
I feel like it's not as meaningful if they're already neutral.

One pairing I was kind of expecting was Minmi and Wuerhosaurus when that DLC came out.

The rough coexistence argument seems strongest, based on the new additions.
 
To DragonNTiger and Aramus418,

Have you two played Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis before any of the Jurassic World: Evolution games? I have seen Dilophosaurus and Velociraptor living peacefully with one another in that game. Same goes for Acrocanthosaurus and Carcharodontosaurus. As long as there are plenty of food for the respective species.
Yes I have... and exhibiting different species of highly aggressive carnivores together, solely because it was done in the game this series is an obvious spiritual successor to, doesn't really make sense to me...

If they do add more like relationships, they should be based on real-world co-existence... not "that game did it, so why not this one"?
 
To DragonNTiger and Aramus418,

Have you two played Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis before any of the Jurassic World: Evolution games? I have seen Dilophosaurus and Velociraptor living peacefully with one another in that game. Same goes for Acrocanthosaurus and Carcharodontosaurus. As long as there are plenty of food for the respective species.
Yes, I played JPOG when it came out in 2003. And around the same time I remember T-Rex and Triceratops were best friends in "Barnie the Dinosaur." What of it?
 
Yes I have... and exhibiting different species of highly aggressive carnivores together, solely because it was done in the game this series is an obvious spiritual successor to, doesn't really make sense to me...

If they do add more like relationships, they should be based on real-world co-existence... not "that game did it, so why not this one"?

I think the real-world co-existence is more applicable on the herbivore exhibits. In Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis, Dino Nerds look for authenticity that can only be achieved in the herbivore exhibits. In Jurassic World: Evolution 2, sometimes it is possible, but not all time.

In Jurassic World: Evolution 2, I put Dryosaurus and Homalocephale together because they need Ground Fiber and Ground Leaf even when they are neutral towards one another. I put Huayangosaurus (that like and are liked by the two species) together with them as it needs Ground Leaf.

I put Parasaurolophus and Brachiosaurus together because not only do they like each other, but the Seed Plants meet their needs for Ground Nut and Tall Nut respectively.

I once made the Horseshoe Canyon exhibit by putting Edmontosaurus and Pachyrhinosaurus together as they need Ground Fiber even when they are neutral towards one another.

I put Chungkingosaurus with Ouranosaurus and Iguanodon because not only it likes and is liked by both species while Ouranosaurus and Iguanodon are neutral towards one another, these three species require Ground Fruit.

I put Archaeornithomimus with Diplodocus not just on the fact they like each other, but also the cycad grove meet their needs for Ground Fruit and Tall Fruit respectively.

Prior to Update 3, I made two different Dinosaur Park exhibits: Styracosaurus and Corythosaurus are neutral towards each other, but they require Ground Fiber. Chasmosaurus and Euoplocephalus like each other while having the requirement of Ground Leaf. However, Euoplocephalus also require Ground Fruit.

Struthiomimus and Gallimimus are neutral towards each other. I put those two with Mamenchisaurus not only because it likes and is liked by both species, the Tempskya plant meet their needs of Ground Leaf and Tall Leaf respectively. I could have put those two with Apatosaurus as an alternative.

Prior to Update 3; I put Torosaurus with Crichtonsaurus, Maiasaura, and Camarasaurus. Torosaurus and Maiasaura are neutral towards each other, they both need Ground Fiber. Maiasaura, Crichtonsaurus, and Camarasaurus like each other. Torosaurus' neutrality towards Camarasaurus making the sauropods' like towards ceratopsians one-sided. In addition, Torosaurus and Crichtonsaurus like each other. The Cycad Grove can fully meet the Crichtonsaurus' need for Ground Fruit, but not effective in meeting the need for Ground Fiber of Torosaurus and Maiasaura. Thus, the Fibrous Ground Cover is key to meeting the Ground Fiber need. The Seed Plants meet the need for Ground Nut of Crichtonsaurus and Maiasaura along with the need for Tall Nut of Camarasaura respectively. The Tempskya meets the Crichtonosaurus' need for Ground Leaf and Camarasaurus' need for Tall Leaf respectively.

I made the Scollard exhibit by putting Pachycephalosaurus, Ankylosaurus, and Triceratops together. Pachycephalosaurus and Triceratops are neutral towards each other, they like and are liked by Ankylosaurus. Even so, the Leafy Climbers meet the need for Ground Leaf of Pachycephalosaurus and Ankylosaurus. The Cycad Grove fully meets the Ankylosaurus' need for Ground Fruit, but not effective at meeting the Triceratops' need for Ground Fiber. The Fibrous Ground Cover is the only vegetation that can effectively meet the Triceratops' need for Ground Fiber.
 
Anybody here remember these?

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They are from Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis' Dinopedia.

According to my research, the common dig sites of their fossil discovery are Laramie Formation in Colorado, Lance Formation in Wyoming, Hell Creek Formation that covers Montana along with North and South Dakota, and Frenchman Formation in Saskatchewan.

In Jurassic World: Evolution 2, Torosaurus and Triceratops like ankylosauroids along with having the requirement of Ground Fiber. It would be better if the two species like each other.
 
Ok, so one thing I often see done in these conversations is to use "cohabitation" for both "they are found in the same 100 square mile geographic region during roughly the same 1 million year time period" and "they can live together 'peacefully' in captivity on a fenced-in football field without issue." "If they 'cohabitated' then, then they should 'cohabitate' now." Contemporaneous existence in the former is not an indication they would be BFFs in the zoo. And again, I don't think JPOG pairing everyone up into cute couples is strictly relevant to JWE2's more complex like/dislike system. Furthermore, if they have the same resource needs, then that's all the natural pressure needed for them to not be friends: niche competition breeds enemies.
 
Ok, so one thing I often see done in these conversations is to use "cohabitation" for both "they are found in the same 100 square mile geographic region during roughly the same 1 million year time period" and "they can live together 'peacefully' in captivity on a fenced-in football field without issue." "If they 'cohabitated' then, then they should 'cohabitate' now." Contemporaneous existence in the former is not an indication they would be BFFs in the zoo. And again, I don't think JPOG pairing everyone up into cute couples is strictly relevant to JWE2's more complex like/dislike system. Furthermore, if they have the same resource needs, then that's all the natural pressure needed for them to not be friends: niche competition breeds enemies.

I prefer a harmonious atmosphere in any of the theme-park-simulation games of the Jurassic Park franchise. In JPOG, I like the different species and types of herbivores living in harmony together. However, the Kentrosaurus in JPOG dislikes Brachiosaurus, Ouranosaurus, and the hadrosaurs to the point of fleeing while swinging their spiky tails. Thus, it is best to put it with its preferred friend Stegosaurus. There is no harmony among most of the carnivore species. Ceratosaurus attack Velociraptor, Albertosaurus, and Allosaurus when it is hungry or hunting. In addition, Albertosaurus will do the same to Velociraptor. The only harmonious likes relationships among the carnivore species are: Dilophosaurus and Velociraptor; Acrocanthosaurus and Carcharodontosaurus.

There are three things that remain constant in all three games especially this one:
  • Ornithomimids and hadrosaurs prefer combat-competent herbivores over carnivores in their territory.
  • All combat-competent herbivores dislike carnivores.
  • Spinosaurus and Tyrannosaurus Rex dislike each other and other large carnivores.

In Jurassic World: Evolution 2, Kentrosaurus likes to live with hadrosaurs, sauropods, and ornithomimids. Due to having the need for Ground Fiber, it can be placed with Corythosaurus and/or Edmontosaurus. Apart from carnivores; Kentrosaurus dislikes ankylosaurs, other stegosaurs, and ceratopsians. Thus, the complex like/dislike system can drain a big amount of brain energy. It takes a lot of space in making a thrilling park that has a variety of carnivores species only. Even as the two species of abelisaurs liking each other, it is best to provide them enough food and space to keep them from fighting each other. Same goes for Ceratosaurus and Allosaurus. Suchomimus and Baryonyx liking each other to the point of not fighting each other is the only thing I like about this game's cohabitation element.

Whether in the movie Jurassic World: Dominion, any of the Jurassic World: Evolution games, and the game Dino Crisis 2; there is one thing that remains constant: Tyrannosaurus Rex and Giganotosaurus dislike each other.
 
If cohabitation issues are so much of an issue, you know you can turn off Dino Comfort, right...?

It is only applicable in the Sandbox gameplay, but it does not change anything. For example, turning off Dino Comfort only prevent Torosaurus and Triceratops from fighting each other, but they still dislike each other.

The addition of likes relationships make a difference.
 
I still don't see the problem...

Torosaurus and Triceratops live in the same region in real life. Given that Frontier has made the Chasmosaurus and Styracosaurus like each other in Update 3, shall they not do the same with Torosaurus and Triceratops? Putting Torosaurus and Triceratops together does add authenticity in the exhibit just like putting Chasmosaurus and Styracosaurus together. I like the bonus that Frontier has made when they make Pachyrhinosaurus, Chasmosaurus, and Styracosaurus liking each other. Pachyrhinosaurus and Styracosaurus liking each other reminds me of the Disney film Dinosaur.

It does not matter Torosaurus and Triceratops not liking the other ceratopsians especially Pachyrhinosaurus, Chasmosaurus, and Styracosaurus. In JPOG, Styracosaurus' preferred friend is Torosaurus. Now in this game, I do not have an issue with Styracosaurus and Torosaurus disliking each other. I find that Torosaurus and Triceratops not liking each other in this game is unacceptable.

Pachyrhinosaurus and Triceratops not liking each other to the point of fighting each other reminds me of a scene in one of Land Before Time TV series' 26 episodes, specifically the one that is titled "Stranger from the Mysterious Above", where the two characters of those species bicker in a song "My Way".

I do not have an issue with ceratopsians and stegosaurs disliking each other. In real life, they are never together. The developers showing us the footage of the Stegosaurus and Triceratops fighting each other reminds me of a physical brawl of the two characters of those species in the episode "The Forbidden Friendship" of Land Before Time TV series.
 

Jens Erik

Senior Community Manager
Frontier
Hey Mike! Thank you for the feedback.

The cohabitation and Like/Dislike system is to push players towards putting thought into their enclosures and dinosaur pairings. It's mean to be a bit of a challenge sometimes, but it's also not impossible to find dinosaurs that work together in the same enclosure.

We don't want to lessen the impact of the cohabitation system by changing it too much, but we appreciate the feedback :)
 
Hey Mike! Thank you for the feedback.

The cohabitation and Like/Dislike system is to push players towards putting thought into their enclosures and dinosaur pairings. It's mean to be a bit of a challenge sometimes, but it's also not impossible to find dinosaurs that work together in the same enclosure.

We don't want to lessen the impact of the cohabitation system by changing it too much, but we appreciate the feedback :)

Dear Mr. Erik,

Thank you for stepping into this discussion. Given that Update 3 adds the following likes relationships:

  • Chasmosaurus and Pachyrhinosaurus
  • Chasmosaurus and Styracosaurus
  • Pachyrhinosaurus and Styracosaurus
  • Apatosaurus and Brachiosaurus
  • Camarasaurus and Brachiosaurus
  • Parasaurolophus and Maiasaura
  • Chungkingosaurus and Gigantspinosaurus
  • Gigantspinosaurus and Huayangosaurus

I am wondering if you can propose to the team to add the following likes relationships:

  • Torosaurus and Triceratops
  • Ichthyosaurus and Plesiosaurus
  • Ichthyosaurus and Attenborosaurus
  • Pachycephalosaurus and Stygimoloch
  • Therizinosaurus and Gallimimus
  • Therizinosaurus and Homalocephale
  • Tapejara and Cearadactylus
  • Tapejara and Tropeognathus
  • Cearadactylus and Tropeognathus
  • Acrocanthosaurus and Carcharodontosaurus
  • Albertosaurus and Qianzhousaurus
  • Apatosaurus and Camarasaurus
  • Dilophosaurus and Velociraptor
  • Dracorex and Stygimoloch
  • Dracorex and Pachycephalosaurus
  • Homalocephale and Dracorex
  • Homalocephale and Stygimoloch
  • Polacanthus and Sauropelta

Please add some of them that you and the team find viable.

Putting the herbivores together according to their timeline and place of discovery adds authenticity to exhibit as there is no telling if there are Dino Nerds among the Nature and Luxury guest types. However, exhibiting herbivores is not just on what they like. Also, the food type they need has to be considered as well.

I do not expect stegosaurs to get along with ankylosaurs and ceratopsians given the fact that these dinosaur types are never together before in real life. To put it in simpler terms, stegosaurs did not make it to Late Cretaceous. In the Early Cretaceous, the only known stegosaur is far away from the early nodosaurs specifically Polacanthus and Sauropelta.

Given what happens in the movie trilogies of Jurassic Park and Jurassic World as well as Capcom's Dino Crisis 2; Tyrannosaurus Rex, Spinosaurus, and Giganotosaurus will never like each other. Though we may not have seen it before, I imagine the Spinosaurus and the Giganotosaurus fighting each other in a new story that I have planned. This part can remain constant.

In Jurassic difficulty challenge mode, we need as many species as we can to achieve a five-star rating. The buildable area of the United Kingdom is small. It is space consuming when making a thrilling park full of carnivores in Northwest USA, there is a possibility that some of the Adventure-type guests are Thrill Seekers from the Danger Club. Marine reptiles generally have high appeal rating and will certainly attracts lots of visitors.

We have faith that the developers can improve the cohabitation element for the better.

Best regards,
VSSEMike
 
Dear Mr. Erik,

Thank you for stepping into this discussion. Given that Update 3 adds the following likes relationships:

  • Chasmosaurus and Pachyrhinosaurus
  • Chasmosaurus and Styracosaurus
  • Pachyrhinosaurus and Styracosaurus
  • Apatosaurus and Brachiosaurus
  • Camarasaurus and Brachiosaurus
  • Parasaurolophus and Maiasaura
  • Chungkingosaurus and Gigantspinosaurus
  • Gigantspinosaurus and Huayangosaurus

I am wondering if you can propose to the team to add the following likes relationships:

  • Torosaurus and Triceratops
  • Ichthyosaurus and Plesiosaurus
  • Ichthyosaurus and Attenborosaurus
  • Pachycephalosaurus and Stygimoloch
  • Therizinosaurus and Gallimimus
  • Therizinosaurus and Homalocephale
  • Tapejara and Cearadactylus
  • Tapejara and Tropeognathus
  • Cearadactylus and Tropeognathus
  • Acrocanthosaurus and Carcharodontosaurus
  • Albertosaurus and Qianzhousaurus
  • Apatosaurus and Camarasaurus
  • Dilophosaurus and Velociraptor
  • Dracorex and Stygimoloch
  • Dracorex and Pachycephalosaurus
  • Homalocephale and Dracorex
  • Homalocephale and Stygimoloch
  • Polacanthus and Sauropelta

Please add some of them that you and the team find viable.

Putting the herbivores together according to their timeline and place of discovery adds authenticity to exhibit as there is no telling if there are Dino Nerds among the Nature and Luxury guest types. However, exhibiting herbivores is not just on what they like. Also, the food type they need has to be considered as well.

I do not expect stegosaurs to get along with ankylosaurs and ceratopsians given the fact that these dinosaur types are never together before in real life. To put it in simpler terms, stegosaurs did not make it to Late Cretaceous. In the Early Cretaceous, the only known stegosaur is far away from the early nodosaurs specifically Polacanthus and Sauropelta.

Given what happens in the movie trilogies of Jurassic Park and Jurassic World as well as Capcom's Dino Crisis 2; Tyrannosaurus Rex, Spinosaurus, and Giganotosaurus will never like each other. Though we may not have seen it before, I imagine the Spinosaurus and the Giganotosaurus fighting each other in a new story that I have planned. This part can remain constant.

In Jurassic difficulty challenge mode, we need as many species as we can to achieve a five-star rating. The buildable area of the United Kingdom is small. It is space consuming when making a thrilling park full of carnivores in Northwest USA, there is a possibility that some of the Adventure-type guests are Thrill Seekers from the Danger Club. Marine reptiles generally have high appeal rating and will certainly attracts lots of visitors.

We have faith that the developers can improve the cohabitation element for the better.

Best regards,
VSSEMike
Nodosaurs did actually coexist with stegosaurs. There are two nodosaurs from the Morrison Formation where Stegosaurus was found: Mymoorapelta and Gargoyleosaurus.
 
My issue with Cohabitation is that its largely the same across entire families. Id much rather every dino have likes and dislikes on a case by case basis. So that you do have to put thought into what you put together, but it doesnt make it completely impossible to have any enclosures with Stegosaurids and Ceratopsids together
 
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