Multiple accounts

[Ven Jarvik]

This is a question which comes from my extremely limited knowledge of games.5 years with Eve (which I am afraid I'm am about to mention again,as it is my only frame of reference) before that was Frontier,and before that was the arcades in Creek road,Hayling Island.

So the question is this:Are multiple accounts a viable option on this game on release?

Many people I met playing EVE used at least two,and some of the really mad ones used 5+ I only ever had the one,because I don't take it too seriously.

I realise this probably sounds like sheer ignorance to you techies and gamers out there,and it indeed is sheer ignorance.But my Mum always told me to ask a question if you want to know the answer,even if you think it makes you look like a twit.Before anyone asks the irritating questions that people tend to ask on forums,I will answer them now.

:No it is not something that desperately worries me,and no I wont be losing sleep over it,and I want to know simply because I didn't know the answer,although in my mind I am thinking there is probably little point because this game works differently.:smilie:
Thanks all.

 

[Ozric]

This is a question which comes from my extremely limited knowledge of games.5 years with Eve (which I am afraid I'm am about to mention again,as it is my only frame of reference) before that was Frontier,and before that was the arcades in Creek road,Hayling Island.

So the question is this:Are multiple accounts a viable option on this game on release?

Many people I met playing EVE used at least two,and some of the really mad ones used 5+ I only ever had the one,because I don't take it too seriously.

I realise this probably sounds like sheer ignorance to you techies and gamers out there,and it indeed is sheer ignorance.But my Mum always told me to ask a question if you want to know the answer,even if you think it makes you look like a twit.Before anyone asks the irritating questions that people tend to ask on forums,I will answer them now.

:No it is not something that desperately worries me,and no I wont be losing sleep over it,and I want to know simply because I didn't know the answer,although in my mind I am thinking there is probably little point because this game works differently.:smilie:
Thanks all.

Depends what you'd want to do with them I suppose. Multiboxing Elite in the same way the people do with EvE I don't think will be viable at all because Elite is much more hands on than EvE. Most people use multiboxing in EvE so they can mine with a lot of different characters at the same time, I've seen one guy with 14 characters.

The only thing I can think of at the moment is wanting to have 1 account running as a trader and then one in an Alliance as fire support, that way you could jump around together, but what happens when you are interdicted? You'd need to be running on 2 computers I reckon, because I've noticed that even when you are Alt-Tabbed out pressing keys will still activate things in the program, and then you're left trying to fly 2 ships at the same time, or hoping that you can take down your aggressor with your fighter before he gets the freighter.

As I'm writing this I'm becoming more and more convinced it's not really viable in this game. I'm sure someone will have other ideas though

 

[Ven Jarvik]

Depends what you'd want to do with them I suppose. Multiboxing Elite in the same way the people do with EvE I don't think will be viable at all because Elite is much more hands on than EvE. Most people use multiboxing in EvE so they can mine with a lot of different characters at the same time, I've seen one guy with 14 characters.

The only thing I can think of at the moment is wanting to have 1 account running as a trader and then one in an Alliance as fire support, that way you could jump around together, but what happens when you are interdicted? You'd need to be running on 2 computers I reckon, because I've noticed that even when you are Alt-Tabbed out pressing keys will still activate things in the program, and then you're left trying to fly 2 ships at the same time, or hoping that you can take down your aggressor with your fighter before he gets the freighter.

As I'm writing this I'm becoming more and more convinced it's not really viable in this game. I'm sure someone will have other ideas though

First thanks for the interesting and non condescending reply.

14 accounts!! holy sugar! But yes if you were interdicted as per your example,even with the fighting ship you would surely need another pair of hands to defend the freighter.So you would be running quite a large risk that you could finish up losing both ships.There is obviously the chance it could save you having the fighter there,but I'm not sure the risk/reward would honestly be worth the extra effort.
So what about when mining is introduced in Elite? obviously (im assuming) youre ship wont be doing it automatically.

 

[Lugalbandak]

Well eve is a different beast,

It takes what atm 19 full years to complete all skills?

great system btw , you want to focus on one thing , thats great for gameplay.

But humans are humans and want more , so tey create more accounts , plus you can buy it within game credits.


Elite doesnt have this and so on, no need for it. pretty damn pc you need to dual box this game also.

 

[mollymawk]

Pay people to play with you or give the game out to all your mates at Christmas.
One person on two elites is not going to work.

Its works great in eve as you are commanding the ship to do stuff and not actually piloting it. I use 2 eve accounts. I find One elite is hard enough.

I suppose if I had good dexterity in my feet I could try another x52.

 

[Ozric]

I was going to mention that, but didn't want to overwhelm the first post.

It really will entirely depend on how it's implemented. I imagine it being far too interactive to be running multiple accounts, however (and this is one of the things that worries me) if all of the people who are crying for autopilots for SC as well as the docking computer we already have, then running multiple accounts may possibly become more viable.

I really think a lot will hinge on how mining plays, but I suppose the only upside to that would be that if people do try multiboxing while mining, then I'd like to see them move both of their ships away before I take one of them out (I know, solo)

 

[MajorEpeen]

I am unsure of the benefits of having multiple accounts in Elite. The resource usage of Elite would be a bit much for one PC. As is mentioned already you would need separate physical PC's IMO.

Mining will be a very manual process in elite so multiboxing is off the cards for that IMO.

Exploration could work with one account going back to sell info while the other carries on exploring.

I do not see the benefit of using one character as a scout as you would in EVE.

It could be used for trading as you have real time access to prices at multiple stations.

All in all I think the level of involvement in Elite is too much to run multiple characters at the same time. Saying that though I am sure someone will find a use for it and will proceed to multibox. If they wish to do so more power to them, and more money for FD.

 

[Muzz UK]

I have 3 accounts however 2 of them are for friends to try the game out and I'm going to end up giving one to my brother. I see no advantage or anything gained from having more than 1 account, it's too hands on like the guy above said to be viable. I guess when mining comes in that might be possible but EVE is more automated than Elite. I guess if your doing simple trade runs you might be able to control 2-3 ships at once. However without being able to transfer credits, which I hope that never bring it there's no point.

 

[deusx_ophc]

well out of a habbit i do have 2+ elite accounts. i am not expecting much traditional multi-boxing, mainly as my goals in ED are simply to play it. there is no need to get rich fast to get to some sort of end-game. also the current playability of the p2p makes multi-boxing near impossible.

but obviously there are other uses of multi accounts, some of which revolve around some mild form of social engineering.

or having a squeaky clean & law abiding cmdr and his evil twin the soziopath played by one person, because as far as i understand you cannot play those roles to excess on one account.

in any case there is fun (without much harm to others) to be had

 

[Ozric]

or having a squeaky clean & law abiding cmdr and his evil twin the soziopath played by one person, because as far as i understand you cannot play those roles to excess on one account.

I thought that you would be able to with the 3 commander slots that will be available on release?

 

[deusx_ophc]

I thought that you would be able to with the 3 commander slots that will be available on release?

could well be, i have no idea as you can tell ^^

 

[MajorEpeen]

I thought that you would be able to with the 3 commander slots that will be available on release?

Yes this is to be implemented. I will probably make use of the other 2 slots to have instant, real time market information from 2 other locations without having to travel there. I believe this tactic is also used in EVE.

 

[Cosmos]

Well I think its fair to say someone is going to multibox ED. I'm looking forward to seeing the videos.

 

[kermit3]

if i remember rightly wasn't there some form of multi boxing program in eve that was officially sanctioned by ccp that may work in elite .

 

[Bald Avenger]

if i remember rightly wasn't there some form of multi boxing program in eve that was officially sanctioned by ccp that may work in elite .

Sandboxie springs to mind, but I dont play Eve, so dont know if that is the one you refer to.

 

[Unknown Terror]

Sandboxie springs to mind, but I dont play Eve, so dont know if that is the one you refer to.

That is the one.

I'm not sure as other's said if I can see the benefit of running multiple accounts at once. At least not until we see mining I guess. I always had two accounts in Eve, one scout/trader and one main char for everything else. But I don't feel the need for this in Elite seeing as there are no skills to hold you back.

 

[Ugleb]

EVE is a much slower paced game that largely runs on timers/cooldowns with a much more abstract control system. You generally have time between actions to alternate between accounts but even that gets demanding under certain situations. Those players who run one-man mining ops with ridiculous numbers of accounts tend to also use software like ISBoxer to at least partially automate repetitive actions. At one time I would run two accounts in dual screen manually and couldn't do much more demanding than mining/hauling with them at once. Trying to keep control over both in combat was stressful.

Elite by comparison is much faster and more involved demanding that you take much more direct control over just about everything. It's hard to imagine playing a complex sim (with joysticks?) in which you micromanage two craft at once.... I imagine attempting to dock would result in at least one ship smeared across the stations hull!

The game mechanics are also very different. ED's mining will apparently involve cutting pieces of rock off an asteroid then scanning/scooping the ore to examine if it is worth hauling back to station. EVE's mining by comparison sees ore of a known composition appear in your cargo every X seconds until full. I think you will have your hands too full controlling one ship to worry about operating a second.

 

[SKaREO]

In EVE, I use an alt account to scout systems before I jumped into them. The alt is a newer character with exploration skill, usually flying a Buzzard, while my main is a fully-spec'd combat pilot. I believe EVE is a much more complex and deep multiplayer game than Elite: Dangerous plans to be, so I think there's more reasons why you want an alt in EVE. Also, the flight and combat in EVE is mostly point and click, whereas in Elite there's a lot of manual labor. I don't even think multiboxing is viable in Elite: Dangerous.

 

[Falkenherz]

Yes this is to be implemented. I will probably make use of the other 2 slots to have instant, real time market information from 2 other locations without having to travel there. I believe this tactic is also used in EVE.

See, this is exactly why I am so vehemently opposing any artifical obscurity on the markets. Only tools like Slopeys Best Price calculator will prevent gameplay like this.

I hate having to relog just to get information which enable me to play the way I want. One of the major reasons why I never got deeply into EVE Online.

I really hope Frontier at least know about and ackknowledge these kind of situations in their design.

 

[Lugalbandak]

Isboxer.

http://isboxer.com/