I'm in Colonia trying to engineer suits and weapons. I have everything I need besides almost all the data requirements and would like to farm them by killing occupants of the buildings I need to get the data from in Anarchy settlements so I can avoid bounties. I'm in Colonia, and the only Anarchy system there has no Odyssey settlements, but EDDB lists several Anarchy Odyssey settlements that are not in Anarchy systems, mostly in Carcosa. Will I be exempt from bounties in those settlements?
Murder and data farming in anarchy settlements in non-anarchy systems - Colonia
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Go to any settlement (doesn't matter if it's anarchy or not), find the data ports, download useful stuff. Look at mission rewards too. If you want the least hassle, find Restore/Reactivation missions as the base will be mostly abandoned (save a few scavengers now and then) and will give you free reign to loot and download everything you want.
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And don't be scared of bounties, plenty of interstellar factors around. Also, you don't need to really kill everyone, not every data download is illegal (indicated by the presence of an alarm bell icon).
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And don't be scared of bounties, plenty of interstellar factors around. Also, you don't need to really kill everyone, not every data download is illegal (indicated by the presence of an alarm bell icon).
Why are you killing all the occupants? Learning how to play can be quite fun ... is it streamers telling you to do it the brain-dead way? Or is it for RP reasons?
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Done the heists. The non violent ones are a hoot.
Restore reactivate are very lucrative.
But killing cos their in the way is also fun...
Its all fun! Albeit not in keeping with lore.
They allow us to exterminate settlements. So why not?
Assuming you've done the fancy unlocks and revert back to mass homicide, ain't no reflection of how crap you are. It's just fun! Specially in a group if say one teams defending the other is attacking.. by that I mean cmdrs.
There's alot of ways to have a hoot on foot.
Personally I prefer the heavy handed approach.
An exterminated base with pp pulled and offline propper looted would no doubt have an impact on the settlements faction.?
Yes you do get notorious. No big deal. Switch to pirate massacres and get rich sharing missions whilst it wears off in a haz res
Restore reactivate are very lucrative.
But killing cos their in the way is also fun...
Its all fun! Albeit not in keeping with lore.
They allow us to exterminate settlements. So why not?
Assuming you've done the fancy unlocks and revert back to mass homicide, ain't no reflection of how crap you are. It's just fun! Specially in a group if say one teams defending the other is attacking.. by that I mean cmdrs.
There's alot of ways to have a hoot on foot.
Personally I prefer the heavy handed approach.
An exterminated base with pp pulled and offline propper looted would no doubt have an impact on the settlements faction.?
Yes you do get notorious. No big deal. Switch to pirate massacres and get rich sharing missions whilst it wears off in a haz res
Oh good... More farming.
Go to any settlement (doesn't matter if it's anarchy or not), find the data ports, download useful stuff. Look at mission rewards too. If you want the least hassle, find Restore/Reactivation missions as the base will be mostly abandoned (save a few scavengers now and then) and will give you free reign to loot and download everything you want.
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And don't be scared of bounties, plenty of interstellar factors around. Also, you don't need to really kill everyone, not every data download is illegal (indicated by the presence of an alarm bell icon).
I can play just fine and am very much enjoying my stealthy methods, but if I'm going to farm I'd rather just do it the quick and dirty way; disable alarms, kill occupants who will see me do bad things, and then do them; rinse, repeat.
I'm assuming I'll need a lot of illegal data, and I don't want to deal with alarms or discovery (Hence the killing.
Is there a current best method for data farming (relog/QTD/etc)? Everything I come across says it's been nerfed in the comments.
Also, the original question stands. Do you gain bounties for murder in anarchy settlements located in non-anarchy systems?
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There's no (illegal) data exclusive to anarchy systems (thanks for the correction, @Northpin) other than Smear Campaign Plans, but you won't be needing those in Colonia. Again, notoriety and bounties are not a big issue at all, especially if you use Apex (no interdictions whatsoever).
The current "best" method for data is to just take a variety of missions with hopefully the right data rewards and/or otherwise exploring the mission settlements. You could also just grab all the useful stuff you don't need directly and head over here (data can also be dropped and traded):
The Odyssey Materials Exchange thread
Since we can drop odyssey materials on the ground, we can probably help each other out especially when it comes down to materials that are only useful for unlocking engineers. ⚠️Pro-tip: before picking up a batch of items, make sure you have the room for the whole batch. Otherwise, the game...
Yep.
Searching for systems with factions in negative states then doing a bunch of restore / reactivation missions means you are guaranteed to get materials with no penalties.
And usually with minimal to zero opposition (some settlements might get scavs, still they're way lesser than killing an entire active settlement)
If you go to a non-anarchy settlement in an anarchy system, you will get bounties and notoriety for killing people.
If you go to an anarchy settlement in a non-anarchy system, you will not get bounties and notoriety for killing people.
HOWEVER, as many people have been pointing out, this rush of people swarming to farm the anarchies is doing serious damage to them and causing them to disappear.
The ideal situation is to find an anarchy settlement in a non-anarchy system where the anarchy that owns it doesn't have any influence to lose. Needless to say this is tricky and very few people are willing to put in the work to set that up. Certainly not the anarchy supporters, who are rather annoyed after going on six months of people swarming their stuff and pounding it into the dirt without lifting a finger to repair the damage they're doing.
If you want farming grounds, you may well have to go out and create them yourself.
I'm willing to advise and lend a hand to people that do want to set up these little farming havens for themselves, but I'm not touching the high-traffic areas of the bubble. Sod that.
If you go to an anarchy settlement in a non-anarchy system, you will not get bounties and notoriety for killing people.
HOWEVER, as many people have been pointing out, this rush of people swarming to farm the anarchies is doing serious damage to them and causing them to disappear.
The ideal situation is to find an anarchy settlement in a non-anarchy system where the anarchy that owns it doesn't have any influence to lose. Needless to say this is tricky and very few people are willing to put in the work to set that up. Certainly not the anarchy supporters, who are rather annoyed after going on six months of people swarming their stuff and pounding it into the dirt without lifting a finger to repair the damage they're doing.
If you want farming grounds, you may well have to go out and create them yourself.
I'm willing to advise and lend a hand to people that do want to set up these little farming havens for themselves, but I'm not touching the high-traffic areas of the bubble. Sod that.
I mean downloads that will trigger alarms; sorry if I was unclear. And, to be clear on bounties, I just really don't like having them, and I haven't got gud enough to be confident without my SRV and ship handy for quick escapes so no Apex for me. And find interdictions incredibly annoying.
Besides, I really just want to know how the anarchy settlements in non-anarchy systems work.
Also, I mean to ask what the best method is for farming data, a la Dav's Hope for those other things; collect, relog, repeat. If none exists, then my direct-answer-needing brain would appreciate it if that could just be plainly stated
Thank you! And thanks for that check on the Anarchy systems. I'd heard of it, but only play Solo so I don't really think of such things. I'll definitely keep it in mind thanks to that admonition. How do I find out if an owning faction "doesn't have any influence to lose?"
I really appreciate everyone's help! You guys are really giving me some strong direction!
The status tab in the right hand panel will tell you the influence of each faction. Carcosa is an odd one where the nameless, the owner of all those anarchy settlements, actually has the highest influence in the system, but that's because there's an active player group maintaining them.
The best anarchies to raid from an "ecologically sound" perspective of not actively doing damage to the future existence of that anarchy are those controlled by native anarchies (usually identifiable by being named after the system you're in) with as little influence as possible. As long as it's below 7% they can't get driven into a war (which can cause them to lose control of the settlements) and if they're sat at 1% then there's nowhere further to go from there.
Note that occasionally they'll still experience shutdowns and fires due to negative states triggered by all that raiding, but you can take reactivate/restore missions when that happens.
Unfortunately Colonia isn't really a great place for farming thanks to.... certain groups that decided for their own reasons that they didn't want anarchies around, and now it's come back to bite them when it's turned out that anarchies are actually quite useful to have around for various reasons in odyssey. (under Horizons it doesn't matter as they can be farmed for massacre missions even at 1% and don't need to control any assets)
The downloads that trigger alarms won't trigger them anymore if you look up the settlement alarms console first. Also, it's not a permanent alarm like tampering with sample containment units or the power centre. As long as you're not seen there will only be alerted enemies converging on the data panel (make use of the transmission range by for instance hiding outside or in another room). It's also a useful method to basically distract all the guards in a settlement, since you can just run away and go elsewhere (no need to complete the download). Make sure you have a clean escape ready so you don't run into any personnel.I mean downloads that will trigger alarms; sorry if I was unclear. And, to be clear on bounties, I just really don't like having them, and I haven't got gud enough to be confident without my SRV and ship handy for quick escapes so no Apex for me. And find interdictions incredibly annoying.
Besides, I really just want to know how the anarchy settlements in non-anarchy systems work.
Also, I mean to ask what the best method is for farming data, a la Dav's Hope for those other things; collect, relog, repeat. If none exists, then my direct-answer-needing brain would appreciate it if that could just be plainly stated
The only farming method I'm currently aware of is looking up surface POIs with crashed skimmers and satellites (mostly Irregular Markers with a threat level). It's still possible to farm these, but you'll need to QTD and they have a very limited loot table (mainly useful for Manufacturing Instructions and the odd Settlement Defence Plan).
Data found in HAB ports (note that with some settlement layouts not every HAB port is in a HAB building, strangely enough) will be the easiest to access, because HAB buildings usually don't require a security clearance level. You can reset a settlement by going into SC and dropping straight out again.
Relogging at a settlement wipes all the data ports and empties all the lockers. You have to leave and come back.
Honestly mission rewards are better for most data types anyway.
Honestly mission rewards are better for most data types anyway.
You will get clearance level 3 automatically for Restore/Reactivation missions and will be provided with a power regulator as well (you can "steal" these by abandoning the mission, however you will be fined and take a reputation hit). Take note that there are missions for retrieving an item/download from an abandoned settlement, the mission information will clearly state you will need to bring your own power regulator and e-breaches (bought at Anarchy controlled stations).
Relogging will clear any settlement of all materials and data, the SC method I described earlier will reset a settlement however.
As Screemonster stated, be sure to check available missions for rewards. Once you a high enough reputation with a faction, they can offer up to 5 of one type of data. Successfully haggling at the corresponding concourse mission provider can bump that up to 10.
Mission rewards, however, don't give you data needed to unlock engineers, such as opinion polls or cat media.
What data do you need? 'cos you never know, CMDRs travelling from the bubble just might have unwanted stuff that they would be more than happy to drop at your feet (literally).
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