if someone has the ability to put there nose to the grindstone and trade in solo, then gear a big ship and come to open, so what? everyone has that option.
lets be honest here, the real issue isnt with folks grinding in solo then hitting open with big ships, because i dont see that happening to often, traders tend to trade big then if they want to pvp, come over in vipers or cobras.. anything bigger is just too much expense.
I know everyone has that option, but that itself doesn't make the option good, and imho quite the contrary. If we're talking fair, we have to observe the situation where everyone would use this mechanic to their benefit. It imbalances and eats away the diversity of open play. Cargo haulers, miners and to some extent explorers and jacks of all trades all migrate to solo, because in pure profit terms there's nothing to gain on open, and then what, open is then left with decked out vipers and pythons duking it out. GG.
So, let's be really honest here, this game shouldn't be about trading in some vacuum, nor about "pvp" in the sense of "let's go pew pew". So what I'm struggling with is why are we trying to make it like that? That imbalance means that people who choose to go against pure profit, who hit that same "grindstone" do it with half the speed because they can't drop weapons for longer jumps, have to check their trade routes for anarchy systems, have to outfit their ships with extra shield banks instead of more cargo space, and for their troubles they are pitted against solo pimped out full combat ships which wouldn't
EXIST in a world where there's no trading/minings/etc.
The real issue is that some people dont like to trade, they cant handle the grind so cant trade up to, or maintain big ships, some of these people are also very vocal on the balance in earnings forums, cos well, bounty hunting in a conda is the way to go right? They see trade in solo as easy money, yet they cant do it themselves, or arnt prepared to put up with the monotony of it.
The real issue is that grouping doesn't work. When you think of the universe we're playing in, vast, scary and dangerous, if it was real, would you dare to trade solo in a Type X? No, ofc not, Han Solo doesn't fly a freaking space truck, he flies something that's capable of handling situations where the s*** hits the fan, and it will eventually hit it in a universe like this. But, hire a few Eagles to escort your hauler, the combat oriented players get their fix, and a proper pay for it, and you can do your monotonous grinding that you so much like.
Im confident im right here, as you said the pvp crowd are very competative, they generally do what they need to get what they need, all this mince about 'cheating the game 'taking the easy route' its just so much hot air. they want what some of us have got but arnt prepared to do what we do to get it, result.. they whine about it, call us names, try to call us cheats, for playing the game in the manner we want to play it.
Nice double standards, you bash the PvP players who want to close PvP for PvP players only, then defend your "right" to PvE in a vacuum but go PvP with your profits. You wan't your PvE to be closed of PvP, let us have PvP closed of PvE.
And this is absolutely wrong anyways. Have you ever played any MMO's? Ever heard of twinkies? The pure PVP oriented players, the griefers, the farmers, who are here just to shoot people down, they all grind the s*** out of solo trading to pimp out their ships. They do it because it's the fastest, easiest, surefire way to maintain their OP noobfarmer status
without any worry of someone else catching them with their pants down. And in addition to that they're probably the most combat trained players in the game, so good luck going after them.
i really dont care how people choose to play, open, solo, group or all 3, im just glad that they do, the more people in game the more game there is to develope, doesnt matter if they are hauling, pirating or bounty hunting, we all paid for this game, whatever route we want to fly should never ever be a reason for bile and backbiting.
I absolutely agree with this. But swapping between game modes shouldn't be possible. End of. It's simply unfair and game breaking.
