My first time being pirated.

I don't think they were after cargo.

Logic would dictate that something beats nothing any day of the week.....however yes I believe cargo was not a motivating factor. You dropped your shields and that made you an easier victim as the PK was all they wanted with a hopeful side effect of g up your day.
 
Logic would dictate that something beats nothing any day of the week.....however yes I believe cargo was not a motivating factor. You dropped your shields and that made you an easier victim as the PK was all they wanted with a hopeful side effect of g up your day.

When I evaded the fourth or so interdiction, he called me a hacker xD
 
I've always believed that abandoning is gaming the system. I'm usually a full time pirate (hey Quineloe it's Pzkp the bagpipes guy :D), and I recognize that pirates need money whenever they can get it. Problem is, I was fully prepared to give it and they decided to blow me up, just for taking my shields down, not even moving! If they shot because they thought I was using Silent Running, they're morons.

To specify, it was an FdL and his friend in... a Python? Never saw his buddy.
I don't get why you'd take the shields down to "show compliance". If they want your shields gone, it happens.

Abandoning is not really gaming the system, it's using the mechanics of the system. If you can force someone to give you the pink slip instead of just grabbing his car keys, that's just as real. And you always have a choice.
 
I hope you didn't get reported in addition to being an unwilling victim....they sound like the age of player that would do such a thing LOL

It's probably why Frontier is lenient on those "reported" for abuse. Too new to say re: Elite. But for sure in other community games played for years - its always the most abusive, cheating, juvenile pew pew who legitimately lost that reports the most people for "cheating" - which is code for 'my victim got away"

leaving the dev to have to sift through mounds of dung to find the actual legit reports of violation
 
The next time they'll be in Solo.
Not everyone escapes to easy mode

Disclaimer: I do not mean to put down those who play solo mode 100% of the time, just those who decide to lower risk temporarily, and then come back with a weapon toting Anaconda after a month.
 
Open play is not for traders, the sooner people realise the sooner posts like this stop. Open play is a PvP arena like CQC except it's bigger and has a permanent affect on your credit balance.

If you See another player in open play, jump away or face the consequences.

I only ever open play in my vulture now, my trade clipper sits nice and safe in Mobius group or solo.
Its kind of cheating really, I do a few runs in my clipper and earn a few million then go get my vulture, spec it up and head out into open play without any risk to my money making machine.
 
This. Since it's a video game, it's important to be friendly with all of those who you play with, out of common decency. If they're not going to play nice, i won't play at all. I'm in a PG wing RN :D

Well, there's friendly, as in saying hello, being civil etc...even if you're robbing them.
Then there's friendly as in dropping your pants (shields)...some ppl may take offence at that and may even take advantage...
Lesson learnt maybe?
 
I don't get why you'd take the shields down to "show compliance". If they want your shields gone, it happens.

Abandoning is not really gaming the system, it's using the mechanics of the system. If you can force someone to give you the pink slip instead of just grabbing his car keys, that's just as real. And you always have a choice.

get your point and agree - right or wrong re: morals, its akin to criminals asking for unmarked bills - if they have sufficient leverage they get it, if not - they don't. Its up to the trader / pirate to decide what choice they want to make.

but bad analogy - pink slips given by force still doesnt make the car you made them sign over legal. In all 50 states you're covered by both duress statutes (no contract valid under duress), and criminal possession laws re: no property or assets derived via criminal means can be kept if convicted.

so while i agree game mechanics should stay as is - let the players decide on both sides which negotiation they want to do, technically all common sense and real world example would say even if trader agreed to abandon - the second he got back to legal authority he'd just report it as stolen under duress and the cannisters would all be considered illegal.

i suppose you could argue there could be "unmarked" cannisters that pirates would sell anonymously or broken up ala chop shop - but then the resale value of abandoned goods would have to be significantly under market to replicate that it is a hot item
 
Open play is not for traders, the sooner people realise the sooner posts like this stop. Open play is a PvP arena like CQC except it's bigger and has a permanent affect on your credit balance.

If you See another player in open play, jump away or face the consequences.

I only ever open play in my vulture now, my trade clipper sits nice and safe in Mobius group or solo.
Its kind of cheating really, I do a few runs in my clipper and earn a few million then go get my vulture, spec it up and head out into open play without any risk to my money making machine.

By this logic though you could reverse it and be just as valid. E.g.

open play is not for pew pew gankers "pvp", the sooner the pew pews realize that, the sooner posts like this stop. open play is a trade, explore, social / role play sandbox - including consensual combat or singing pirates - except its bigger than XXX and has a permanent effect on your credit balance (by trade, ramming into a star, etc)

I personally dont believe all the way in your statement, nor in my example above. But if you believe in yours, then theres no logic that says a pve'er cant just as arbitraily declare open = pve , as much as you just declared open = pvp and everyone else .
 
By this logic though you could reverse it and be just as valid. E.g.

open play is not for pew pew gankers "pvp", the sooner the pew pews realize that, the sooner posts like this stop. open play is a trade, explore, social / role play sandbox - including consensual combat or singing pirates - except its bigger than XXX and has a permanent effect on your credit balance (by trade, ramming into a star, etc)

I personally dont believe all the way in your statement, nor in my example above. But if you believe in yours, then theres no logic that says a pve'er cant just as arbitraily declare open = pve , as much as you just declared open = pvp and everyone else .

Your logic is flawed, everyone trading in open play has no affect on each other's credit balance nor are they a threat to other players in Open play, traders are peaceful and do not grief.
Open play invites PvP gankers to prey on unarmed or weak traders which is why solo and private groups are inviting to traders and open play is inviting to PvP players.

The current state of open play speaks for itself
 
Open play is not for traders, the sooner people realise the sooner posts like this stop. Open play is a PvP arena like CQC except it's bigger and has a permanent affect on your credit balance.

If you See another player in open play, jump away or face the consequences.

I only ever open play in my vulture now, my trade clipper sits nice and safe in Mobius group or solo.
Its kind of cheating really, I do a few runs in my clipper and earn a few million then go get my vulture, spec it up and head out into open play without any risk to my money making machine.

I disagree. I play in open for the thrills. Trading is open is more fun! Just fly with cargo, be prepared/willing to lose your cargo and have fun. In over a year of playing I've only twice come across murderers/griefers. Just be smart, don't stick to known piracy routes/hubs and all will be fine. Open = fun, for all careers. Oh, and fly a fast ship. That's the best defense. ;)
 
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